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Posted on 08/26/2007 2:08:11 PM PDT by wyowolf
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indias_terror_death_toll_second_only_to_Iraq/articleshow/2312796.cms
I have moved beyond the point of ev en being able to refer to Islam as a “religion”. No more than I would call wicca or Scientology a religion.
Oddly the words Islam and muslim are never mentioned in the atrticle. Even in India folks are afraid to name the real worldwide enemy.
Regards
amazingly, its because not all of them are sand nazis. India has a problem with communist terrorists too. The nepal numbers are all because of communists and the sri lanka ones are tamil tigers.
What’s wrong with the title ???
Good points.
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Oh, but it is. Unfortunately it is owned and operated by "the evil one" as an alternative to Christianity.
interesting map, will check out the website as well thanks..
Actually, the regular occurence of terrorism is a damning condemnation on the ability of Indians to govern themselves.
They elected the communists to power and are now paying the price.
Its also very shameful that people from tiny countries like Bangladesh are able to hit any target in India AT WILL.
Overall, it indicates how effectively US takes care of her citizenry and values their lives, while India cannot even ensure basic security to her citizens.
Agree totally.
trust me Indians for all their technical abilitiy, seem to be unable to properly govern themselves. I would agree, especially in the southern part on India is very socialist though that is slowly changing somewhat... My MIL has told me stories of vote buying and corruption that would make your jaw drop...
Instead of blaming India you need to blame the neighbourhood India is in and the conscious support countries like pakistan have gotten by China & US over all these years when “jehad” was not such a bad word as it is today.
If the US with a $11 trillion dollar economy cannot prevent millions of people from walking into the country illegally, how do you expect a country with 1 trillion dollar economy to achieve that?
(......Its difficult to be in India’s shoes.)
I think we have come to a point where it would be cheaper to figh a war then to continue this way.
Currently, illegal immigration is just a socio-cultural and economic problem, not a serious security risk...
.. but if some of them Mexican terrorists start blowing up bus loads of school children like in India, a great wall of America will spring up in no time.
Or at the least, they would bring in an anti-terrorism law, which India hasn’t done even after 100+ terrorist attacks on the lives of her own citizens.
Its clearly obvious to even foreigners perusing through India’s history that Indian govt is not afraid to compromise the lives of her own citizenry, just to retain their “ Muslim votebank”.
What does that tell you about Indian politicians ?
That they are morally bankrupt.
Who put them in there ?
Indians themselves, mostly illiterate mobs who dont even know what happened in the past 3 years.. the ramifications of their vote that has propelled traitors and intensely self-centered thugs to power.
I wouldnt be surprised if Andhra, Kerala and Bengal even vote in even Islamic Terrorists.. the Indian masses are so poor and desperate that they would vote in anyone who promises them free roti, free bijli and kheti ke liye pani.
And BTW, its not an issue of MONEY, its an issue of how afraid the government is OF the people.
In US, most senators and congressmen are afraid of their re-election and so cannot do anything to damage the well being of their people.
In India, politicians dictate the lives of everyone and expect us to Ignore terrorism, because it interferes with their preciously aligned votebanks. They have their particular demographic groups (certain castes and religions) to whom they pander and dont care about anyone else.. even if half the country burns down.
And if you want to blame bad neighborhoods, what about Israel ? How do they defend their nation and respond to terrorist attacks ?
“Or at the least, they would bring in an anti-terrorism law, which India hasn’t done even after 100+ terrorist attacks on the lives of her own citizens.”
You dont know what you are talking about. Law enforcement in India have far more freedom to tackle terrorists than in the US.
“What does that tell you about Indian politicians ?
That they are morally bankrupt”
And American politicians are white as snow? Give me a break!
“And if you want to blame bad neighborhoods, what about Israel ? How do they defend their nation and respond to terrorist attacks ?”
And how peacefully do Israelis live? And have they managed to stop terrorist attacks?
“In US, most senators and congressmen are afraid of their re-election and so cannot do anything to damage the well being of their people.”
This isthe piece’de’resistance. This is too funny for me to comment on.
from Times of India today :
It’s difficult to escape the sense of deja vu. The response to the latest terror outrage in Hyderabad was followed by the by-now familiar and stale drill: vows to bring the culprits to book, levelling, even if well-founded, charges against Pakistan and Bangladesh, condolences for victims and review meetings by the Prime Minister downwards.
People cannot be accused of being cynical if they dismiss these declarations as hollow and seem resigned for the next jehadi strike. For a country that for more than two decades now has been bled by relentless terror attacks, India has offered knee-jerk and sporadic attack-specific responses. In fact, it has been in a state of denial, first by claiming that no Indian was messed up with Al Qaida, and when that proved to be wrong, describing this vicious campaign of violence as the handiwork of a “handful of misguided youth”.
The response has to change if the bleeding is to stop. The first corrective will come by recognising the huge problem. The right diagnosis is a pre-requisite for cure, and it ranges from acknowledging that the scourge is no fabrication by agencies to creating synergies among agencies, strengthening policing and by creating the necessary political will.
Just raising elite teams isn’t enough nor is holding out threats to Pakistan sufficient. The key to the success of an honest counter-terrorism initiative lies in painstaking and sustained campaign to strengthen the criminal justice system and law enforcement machinery.
For all our aspiration to be a superpower, the harsh fact is that a lethal blend of corruption, inefficiency and political meddling have enfeebled our criminal justice administration and have sapped the police of will and strength to take on those killing the innocent.
Investigation into the Hyderabad carnage is still on, but there are pointers that the loss of life on Saturday could have been averted.
Another from the Times of India...
We’re our own worst terrorists
28 Aug 2007, 0141 hrs IST,Jug Suraiya,TNN
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As the front page of the TOI highlighted on Monday, with the exception of war-riven Iraq, India has emerged as the world’s No. 1 target for terror: in the past few years, this country has suffered more fatalities through terrorist attacks than all the Americas, North, South and Central, and Europe put together.
Part of the reason seems obvious. Our neighbour and arch-foe Pakistan is the biggest exporter of terror in the world. And we’re fighting a ‘proxy war’with it in Kashmir. Geography is against us. But are we also against ourselves? Do we, through myriad sins of omission and commission, invite such attacks?
It is often said that India is a ‘soft’, instead of a ‘hard’, state. This means that we, collectively and individually, are willing or unwilling accomplices to a flagrant flouting of the laws of the land. From the street constable who can be bought for Rs 50 to let an errant trucker or motorist go free, to a chief minister who, indicted in a scam, can openly defy the legal system by saying that he is answerable only to the ‘court of the people’, the Indian state — as exemplified by its representatives at various levels — is commonly seen to be up for sale or otherwise open to subversion from within.
Time and again, our top law enforcement agencies have been reprimanded by the judiciary for hopelessly bungling or inexcusably delaying investigations with regard to crucial criminal cases, be they terror related or otherwise.
The inevitable suspicion arises as to whether the perpetrators of such acts enjoy political or other patronage which puts them out of reach of the truncated arm of our law: they are above or beyond the law. On the other hand, many thousands of anonymous undertrials are buried alive in jails for years without hope of release or redress: they are not above the law; they are so far beneath it that the law literally can’t see them.
Every now and then the state, in the avatar of its legal system, finds high-profile scapegoats (a Sanjay Dutt or Salman Khan who make for good photo-ops for our law enforcement machinery but are ‘safe’whipping boys in that their fans won’t go on a rampage to secure their release, as the minions of a political or communal leader certainly would) to whom it metes out showcase punishment for relatively minor misdemeanours and feels it has done its job.
In the meantime, large swathes of the country have become virtual parallel states, ruled by so-called Naxals. Violent mobs can with impunity smash retail outlets of a corporate major which has dared to try and enter the retail food and vegetable business, for long the unchallenged domain of rapacious middlemen and big farmers.
What is the Indian state doing to prevent all this? Precious little. It is too busy ensuring that no one below 25 can have an alcoholic drink in a bar.
It is such tokenism that has made a mockery of the Indian state, a state which dithered ineffectively before caving in submissively to terrorist demands in the Kandahar hijacking episode by releasing convicted subversives. Little wonder we’re a soft target for terror. We’ve drawn an inviting bullseye around ourselves.
Can we — ought we to — pay the price of becoming a ‘hard’state, like Israel? Or the US after 9/11, where civil liberties have been curtailed but where terrorist incidents have also been reduced?
A ‘hard’state has to learn to be tough on itself first, in upholding its own rule of law and being seen to do so, before it can be tough against terror. Do we — should we — build the political and ethical sinews to do this? It’s a question for our collective conscience. And till we decide, we’ll have to learn to live with terror from outside, and our complicity with it within.
More from Times of India...
War on terror has only led to more strikes, deaths
28 Aug 2007, 0057 hrs IST,Subodh Varma,TNN
After 9/11, US President George Bush announced a Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) promising to rid the earth of terrorism. Six years and billions of dollars later, where does it stand? Has it succeeded in controlling international terrorist activity?
GWOT has three components. Operation Enduring Freedom is for conducting operations in Afghanistan, the Horn of Africa (Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia), trans-Sahara (Libya, Chad, Mauritania, Algeria, Senegal, etc), and the Philippines.
Operation Iraqi Freedom is the name for the war in Iraq, being fought by a coalition of 20 countries at present, but mainly comprising US forces. And, Operation Noble Eagle is the domestic component of GWOT, aimed at securing the safety of citizens within the US. In addition, there is a small component called Georgia Train and Equip, for supporting Georgian troops. Apart from direct military operations, GWOT involves diplomatic interventions, public relations, training, infrastructure building and reconstruction.
A comprehensive database of international terrorist strikes and deaths maintained by RAND Corporation and the National Memorial Institute for Prevention of Terrorism, supported by the US government’s Office of Homeland Security reveals that GWOT has not succeeded in its primary objective. The number of terrorist incidents as well as deaths due to them has actually increased since 9/11. In the 44.5 months immediately preceding the 9/11 attack, there was an average of 106 terrorist incidents per month. Since then, the number has increased to 186 incidents per month, excluding Iraq. If Iraq is included, the average rises to 284 incidents per month.
Similarly, deaths in terrorist attacks increased from an average 109 per month before 9/11 to 195 per month since then, excluding Iraq. Including Iraq increases the toll to 444 per month.
According to the US Government Accountability Offices Report No GAO-07-1056R submitted to the US Congress on July 26 this year, the US Department of Defense has been provided with $542.9 billion between 2001 and April 2007 for GWOT. The amount spent has been increasing every year. Of this, $324.9 billion has been for Operation Iraqi Freedom. About $76.5 billion have been spent on Operation Enduring Freedom and $27.7 billion on Operation Noble Eagle. As of now, however, there is little evidence that it is not money down the drain.
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