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Is The Virginian by Owen Wister one of the best books ever? If not what is?

Posted on 08/29/2007 9:01:26 PM PDT by samadams2000

Just finished this gem of a book. In 2 days. I would appreciate hearing about the favorites of fellow Freepers. Summer is a closin and I want to suck as much diversion as I can out of it. Regards.


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1 posted on 08/29/2007 9:01:27 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: samadams2000

Try Chat.


2 posted on 08/29/2007 9:02:57 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder

no, this should be in breaking news.


3 posted on 08/29/2007 9:03:54 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: samadams2000

“Unfit for Command’


4 posted on 08/29/2007 9:05:08 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: samadams2000
Is The Virginian by Owen Wister one of the best books ever? If not what is?

Kama Sutra. Scratch and Sniff version.

5 posted on 08/29/2007 9:06:29 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Rudder

Yep. Sorry. Wrong section. But damn its a great book....


6 posted on 08/29/2007 9:07:07 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: samadams2000
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, by Robert A. Heinlein.
7 posted on 08/29/2007 9:11:26 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

That looks like a winner. Thank you.


8 posted on 08/29/2007 9:15:33 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Grizzled Bear

LOL!


9 posted on 08/29/2007 9:19:11 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: samadams2000

Wind in the Willows. Mr. Toad rocks!


10 posted on 08/29/2007 9:19:21 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: samadams2000

If you liked The Virginan by Owen Wister try books from Louie L’Amore.


11 posted on 08/29/2007 9:20:57 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: ThomasThomas
I like William W. Johnstone instead!
12 posted on 08/29/2007 9:22:31 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: samadams2000

The Bible for $1000, Alex.

Most of the early Heinlein, his later stuff was not as good, the thicker the book, the worse it is.

CS Lewis, “There once was a boy named Eustace Clarence Scrubb and he almost deserved it.”


13 posted on 08/29/2007 9:24:24 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: samadams2000

Replay, by Ken Grimwood


14 posted on 08/29/2007 9:24:25 PM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: samadams2000
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand is a great read.

Of Heinlein's stuff, I've got to go with Starship Troopers (Paul Verhoeven will do tall time in hell for his excremental film!) or Time Enough for Love.

15 posted on 08/29/2007 9:27:01 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: samadams2000

Off the top of my head...

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
Memoirs of an Invisible Man by H.F. Saint
Without Remorse by Tom Clancy
The Cay by Theodore Taylor (short, but very good)
Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach
Firestarter, Needful Things, and Different Seasons by Stephen King


16 posted on 08/29/2007 9:28:47 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod (1 Corinthians 2:5, Jeremiah 29:11-13)
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To: samadams2000
As a delegate from the Hobbit Hole, I cast a unanimous ballot for The Lord of the Rings!
17 posted on 08/29/2007 9:30:07 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: JesusBmyGod

Forgot one...

The Foundation Trilogy by Isaac Asimov. Read it as a teenager and couldn’t put it down.


18 posted on 08/29/2007 9:31:47 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod (1 Corinthians 2:5, Jeremiah 29:11-13)
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To: samadams2000
If you like westerns, try Lonesome Dove by McMurty, Bret Hart's short stories, and Mark Twain's western books, such as Roughing it.
19 posted on 08/29/2007 9:40:02 PM PDT by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: samadams2000
While it's not my favorite book of all time, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley is timely. Written in the 40's (I think), it predicted some of what we see happening today and where it all leads eventually...
20 posted on 08/29/2007 9:41:07 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Happy ending?


21 posted on 08/29/2007 9:55:01 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too (Don't make perfect the enemy of the good)
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To: samadams2000

“A Perfect Spy” by John LeCarre.


22 posted on 08/29/2007 10:12:24 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: samadams2000

Neuromancer by William Gibson
Mona Lisa Overdrive by William Gibson

1776 by David McCollough

Til We Have Faces by C.S. Lewis
Space Trilogy by C.S. Lewis

The Odyssey(trans. Fitzgerald)
The Iliad(trans. Lattimore)

The Complete Father Brown by G.K. Chesterton


23 posted on 08/29/2007 10:12:50 PM PDT by This Just In
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I have read literally hundreds of books tho I am not a heavy reader. I honestly can’t think of a single one which just stands out as great.

For some reason a fairly obscure book by Xenophon called “The Anabasis” or “The March up Country” stands out as an extraordinary book about extraordinary times.

The adventures of 10,000 Greek mercenaries trapped a thousand miles from home in Persia. How they fought their way home after the Persians treacherously murdered their generals during a peace conference.

Xenophon, who was an Athenian and a Spartan, whose name I can’t recall, were elected generals by the troups and the two worked perfectly together. I think around 6400 finally made it back to Greece.


24 posted on 08/29/2007 10:14:26 PM PDT by yarddog (`)
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To: samadams2000

I liked David McCullough’s: John Adams.


25 posted on 08/29/2007 10:18:28 PM PDT by Walkenfree ("Aspire to Inspire before you expire")
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To: samadams2000

it’s okay, the 19th century prose was a little hard for me to get through. BTW, it’s based on the so called Johnson County War, between large cattle operations—often owned by Eastern and/or foreign interest—and small indpendent ranchers. Wister took the side of the big ranchers, whom history has judged to have been in the wrong. The definitive nonfiction account is The War on Powder River, by Helena Huntington Smit, written in the fifties and still available thru Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/War-Powder-River-H-Smith/dp/0803251882


26 posted on 08/29/2007 10:20:57 PM PDT by kms61
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To: yarddog

That was a hard week I tell you what...


27 posted on 08/29/2007 10:21:31 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (They say it's lonely at the top, then I am as lonely as can be.)
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To: samadams2000

The best book I have ever read would be Hostage To The Devil if you are into exorcism and possession. Also The Enemies series Foreign and Domestic, Domestic etc. Just finished Dracula and it was by far better than anything Hollywood has produced about it, highly recommended.


28 posted on 08/29/2007 10:24:02 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (They say it's lonely at the top, then I am as lonely as can be.)
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To: ThomasThomas

“........try books by Louie L’Amour”.
My favorite is “Last of the Breed”. Too bad he never got around to writing the sequel. He left an opening for one but I guess his health had deteriorated before he got to it.


29 posted on 08/29/2007 10:26:09 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Xenophon450

I didn’t realize you were still around. I understand you were a student of Socrates and also wrote books on Dog breeding and horses.


30 posted on 08/29/2007 10:28:25 PM PDT by yarddog (`)
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To: Valpal1

“Well,” said Uncle Andrew with a chuckle, “it depends what you call wrong. People are so narrow minded. She certainly got very queer in later life. Did very unwise things. That was why they shut her up.”

“In an asylum, do you mean?”

“Oh no, no, no,” said Uncle Andrew in a shocked voice. “Nothing of the sort. Only in prison.”


31 posted on 08/29/2007 10:31:05 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Grizzled Bear
Kama Sutra. Scratch and Sniff version.

That was one of my favorites too, but it gave me a rash and then these pustules appeared, and then -- well, after the antibiotics I was OK.

32 posted on 08/29/2007 10:34:57 PM PDT by TChad
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To: I_like_good_things_too

Happy ending?


There’s a peaceful scene at the light house...


33 posted on 08/29/2007 10:50:22 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ThomasThomas
If you liked The Virginan by Owen Wister try books from Louie L’Amore.

Have you ever tried David Gemmel’s “Jerusalem Man” series?

34 posted on 08/29/2007 10:52:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: samadams2000

I first read “The Wizard of Oz” When I was in the 4th grade. We had an interesting setup where each classroom had it’s own library. They had two copies of it.

I read some of the other OZ stories recently and they are about as good as “The Wizard”.


35 posted on 08/29/2007 10:56:03 PM PDT by yarddog (`)
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To: Valpal1
Close, but you don't quite have Lewis' precise, masterful way of putting the sentence:

There was a boy called Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it.

The whole first opening page of that book is just fabulously, unbelievably well written. One of my all-time favorites.

36 posted on 08/29/2007 10:56:21 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: samadams2000
Science fiction:
Through the Looking Glass John Ringo
Cassini Division Iain Banks
Skylark of Space Edward E. Smith
The Best of E.E.“Doc” Smith Edward E. Smith

Serious:
The Pelaponnesian War Thucydides
Lives Plutarch
This site has Plutarch and much more.

37 posted on 08/29/2007 11:05:21 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Do not live lies!" ...Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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To: samadams2000

Have you ever read “To Kill a Mockingbird”?

It’s not there, but for hours of good reading, I recommend visiting http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/


38 posted on 08/29/2007 11:12:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: This Just In; Luke Skyfreeper

Have you heard the Focus on the Family Radio Theatre productions of the Narnian Chronicles.

They are fabulouly entertaining and well done. Great for traveling and rainy afternoons.


39 posted on 08/29/2007 11:13:35 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
The Professor’s story of the war of the ring is without equal. A truly serious book written for the truly serious reader. And, also, for little children.

The greatest work of English fiction.

That horrible cinema thing was as mean and nasty a rewriting as one could expect from Gollum himself. Speaking of Gollum, Smeagol was the only character that Jackson did without lies. Boromir was acceptable. Certainly Jackson has no grasp of honor, nobility, obligation, or what the story was about.

40 posted on 08/29/2007 11:16:06 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Do not live lies!" ...Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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To: samadams2000

A Separate Peace


41 posted on 08/29/2007 11:16:53 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: Valpal1

Yes. Our family also enjoys the Adventure In Odyssey CD’s.


42 posted on 08/29/2007 11:16:57 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Valpal1

No, I haven’t — but they sound like great fun!


43 posted on 08/29/2007 11:18:07 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Valpal1

Have you read The Inklings by Carpenter?


44 posted on 08/29/2007 11:20:42 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

No, but I shall add it to my library list. Thanks for the tip.


45 posted on 08/29/2007 11:32:44 PM PDT by Valpal1 ("I know the fittest have not survived when I watch Congress on CSPAN.")
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To: samadams2000
If you like Westerns, I recommend anything by Louis L'Amour, with a strong emphasis on the Sackett series (start with Sackett and then try The Daybreakers and The Sackett Brand, they are the easiest access to the series).

For military fiction, I enjoy Tom Clancy and Harold Coyle (also check out of fellow FReeper Jeff Head's Dragon's Fury).

But my one true love has to be science fiction. Some of my favorite authors include Timothy Zahn, Elizabeth Moon, Isaac Asminov, David Drake, Eric Flint, Orson Scott Card, John Ringo, Harry Turtledove, and David Weber.

46 posted on 08/29/2007 11:42:43 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: samadams2000

Lord of Darkness by Robert Silverberg


47 posted on 08/29/2007 11:43:56 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: samadams2000

A Prayer for Owen Meaney by John Irving is one of mine.


48 posted on 08/29/2007 11:55:54 PM PDT by CaliGirl-R (America is a "safe haven" for terrorists thanks to Political Correctness!)
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To: samadams2000
If you liked that you might also like Shane by Jack Schaefer. One I also really enjoyed in that genre was Outlaw by Warren Kiefer.

As far as a "perfect" book, it's hard to say. A Farewell To Arms was a masterpiece of construction. Another one good enough to teach courses around is, believe it or not, a Stephen King novel, Salem's Lot. Concision, pacing, character development, and the emotional arc between story and reader - these two are pretty good models of the art form. Already mentioned, Gibson's Neuromancer was very stylish. 1984 was simply bone-chilling, a masterpiece of horror that wasn't even a horror novel. I don't think any of these is likely to leave you feeling cheated.

49 posted on 08/29/2007 11:57:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: samadams2000
Blood Meridien (Cormac McCarthy) is a fine literary western.

The Pistoleer (James Carlos Blake) is a taut and engrossing fictionalized account of John Wesley Hardin's life. Blake has also written some of the most violent westerns I've ever read, such as In The Rogue Blood. And his short stories will knock you on your keister.

Desperadoes (Ron Hansen) is an excellent tale of the Dalton Gang. He also does a fine job in The Assassination of Jesse James.

50 posted on 08/29/2007 11:59:58 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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