Posted on 08/30/2007 2:29:42 PM PDT by pulaskibush
KeepArkansasLegal met with Vic Snyder and tried to get some answers about what he is doing to stop illegal immigration. Here is the video footage of that meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3v-3bsbbBE
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Someone better tell this Rep that Bush has already signed an executive order to give illegals full social security benefits after 18 months of work.....which was part of the latest Illegal Alien Amnesty bill.
Had Amnesty passed, this order would have become law.
Based on what I know about Arkansans, they won’t take kindly the comments made by this hack.
What a babbling old fool. He thinks we can’t enforce our laws until poverty and corruption is eradicated in Latin America! He knows very little about the illegal immigration problem. He has NO position on illegal immigration, the enforcement of immigration laws, and all he can say is we need to ‘HELP’ Latin America. “We need to recognize these different categories”?? What the hell does that mean? And, oh, illegals can’t draw Social Security? What does that have to do with the cost of tea in China? If you are not a citizen, you don’t get Social Security: not a huge secret. Why is he stating the obvious? Their involvement with SS is limited to stealing people’s SS numbers to use to work illegally. However, he didn’t mention any ways to stop SS fraud, perhaps because he has no clue. Oh, but he did manage to vote against English as the official language. Why would anyone ever vote for this person? Arkansas and his district is not well served. I am in awe that you managed to be so polite to him.
According to the detailed chart in the GAO report on totalization, a lower paid illegal with 8 credits would receive $39.00 per month. With 20 credits, $99.00 per month. With 36 credits, $178.00 per month.
If the illegal has higher earnings, he would receive higher benefits.
If an illegal accrues 40 credits, he is ineligible for totalization payments. Whatever SS benefits he may, or may not, be eligible are covered by other laws/regs.
You don't have to be an expert on this. The vast majority of illegals will not be eligible for totalization because they worked off the books and didn't pay in, or if they did pay in, they don't have the documentation.
Based on what the rest of us know about Arkansas, nobody there will ever find out what this hack said.
Radio and TV won't carry it, nor will the newspapers.
Once the President submits the agreement to Congress, which he is expected to do this fall, it goes into effect automatically unless the House of Representatives or the Senate adopts a resolution of disapproval within 60 legislative days.
However, the resolution of disapproval mechanism currently in the Social Security Act is an unconstitutional legislative veto, based on the Supreme Court's decision in INS v. Chadha, in which the Supreme Court struck down a similar provision in the Immigration and Nationality Act.
Since Congress has never rejected a totalization agreement, the fact that the mechanism for disapproval is unconstitutional has not been an issue. Unless the law is changed, though, the passage of a resolution of disapproval would result in a judicial challenge, potentially resulting in a judgment that the agreement is effective regardless of Congress' wishes. Nice, huh?
If you read the GAO Report, you would know why Congress has never rejected. Because all of the totalization agreements the the US has entered into have benefitted the US, US employers, and US employees far more than the other country(s). On the the order of 2 or 3 times.
As the world gets smaller, foreign trade expands, more employers and employees move around the world to do business and work, there will be more and more totalization agreements.
Even Mexico, who has totalization agreements with Canada and Spain, will sign more of them.
Besides Mexico, the US has 3 other agreements pending. Don't ignore the reports in the Indian media about an agreement between India and the US.
5:59 of a babbling, doublespeaking democRAT. He certainly learned how to avoid answering questions.
It's clear Vic was having difficulty dodging the questions. Listening to his answers was almost as entertaining as watching Ms. Teen North Carolina's pageant melt down. :)
Smile, Vic...you've been freeped!
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This is one rat that will NOT speak to citizens again. You can take that to the bank.
>>The vast majority of illegals will not be eligible for totalization because they worked off the books and didn’t pay in, or if they did pay in, they don’t have the documentation.<<
How do you know whether “the vast majority” worked off the books? What happens when they use somebody else’s SS number?
".........or if they did pay in, they don't have the documentation."
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Typo, should say “Bush is a kindred spirit....”
This guy needs to be fired.
The GAO says that if SS is off by 35%, it will result in a measurable amount. GAO then says that the measurable amount is a number that rounds up to 0.01%.
Rounds up to 0.01% is 0.005% thru 0.009%. For discussion, let's say 0.007 which is in the middle of the range.
Double it. Triple it. Whether it is 35%=0.007%, 70%=0.014%, 105%=0.021%, in the scheme of SS's viability, these numbers are nothing.
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