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The Christians Are Coming Back to Arabia – Fourteen Centuries after Mohammed
Chiesa.com ^ | August 31, 2007 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 08/31/2007 6:15:42 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 08/31/2007 6:15:46 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/31/2007 6:17:00 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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3 posted on 08/31/2007 6:18:45 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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4 posted on 08/31/2007 6:19:36 AM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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But you can’t take a Bible into Saudo Arabia.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 6:20:24 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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“The term “immigrant” is itself too generic to define the reality of those who are working today to transform the face of the Gulf. “

Slaves to the Arabs. Doing work that rich oil baron Muslims won’t do or don’t know how to do. Bigot? No. Realist? Yes.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 6:20:40 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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".....The capital is Abu Dhabi. Almost all of the citizens belong to the official religion death cult, Islam"

There, fixed.
7 posted on 08/31/2007 6:22:06 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism now.)
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The UAE is becoming the aerospace hub of the middle east. Every major player in aviation is there or going there. That said, having lots of Filipina maids isn’t likely to create lots of Filipina citizens of the country. They won’t be able to have some Sharia law government there though or oppress the Christians. They will lose too much in business, which they have gained by being moderate and open. Hope their wealth will make other Muslims be more open.


8 posted on 08/31/2007 6:23:35 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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Slaves to the Arabs. Doing work that rich oil baron Muslims won’t do or don’t know how to do.

Ironically ... just the reverse of the West where Muslims are being imported to do the work that well educated westerners refuse to do.

9 posted on 08/31/2007 6:24:04 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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1. Yes - the arab countries import huge amount of laborers from Christian countries

2. They have no hope for citizenship and will be deported in a blink of the eye if they do anything un-islamic. They will all be sent home one day.

3. How much of the local population is converting? That would be the real measure

10 posted on 08/31/2007 6:27:40 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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GDP of Arab states with a population of 300m is less that that of Spain. You cannot build a prosperous economy on cheap, low skill labor.


11 posted on 08/31/2007 6:30:15 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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the West where Muslims are being imported to do the work that well educated westerners refuse to do

In Germany that is certainly the case - the Turks came to Germany specifically as guest workers.

Muslims in the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Denmark and Sweden are there largely as "refugees" and pluralities if not majorities of them live on public assistance.

Muslims in the UK are a mix.

Every last Christian immigrant to the Muslim countries is there to work.

I would be surprised if employment was the motivation of more than half of Europe's Muslims.

12 posted on 08/31/2007 6:36:11 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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“The true status of these workers, even of those who have been living in the Emirates for a number of years, is that of “expatriates,” persons whose presence in the country is strictly connected to the possession of a valid work contract, but who can never become residents or buy houses or property. Their destiny is bound to the decisions of their employers, who often hold their passports hostage out of fear that they will flee or become insubordinate.”

The Christians are coming back and might soon be the majority? A pretty misleading headline, as if they’re actually participants with rights in an oil rich Arab nation. As several have pointed out, their status is little better than indentured servants with a contract that’s difficult to enforce.

The way Muslims treat their hired help tells us a great deal about them.


13 posted on 08/31/2007 6:36:12 AM PDT by Will88
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“Ironically ... just the reverse of the West where Muslims are being imported to do the work that well educated westerners refuse to do.”

The only example that I can find to that remark is Europe can’t find any doctors to work in their socialist medicine scandal.

What exactly do you mean? Cab drivers, deli workers? You need to get out of NY more often. No offense.

14 posted on 08/31/2007 6:38:46 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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Yes..It is hard to get Europeans to blow up trains these days.
They are so lazy they get the Muslims to do it.


15 posted on 08/31/2007 6:40:57 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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So there are more and more Christians in the UAE?

People are just so excitable - someone is sure to lose their head over this!

/black humor

16 posted on 08/31/2007 6:41:44 AM PDT by cooldog (Islam is a criminal conspiracy to commit mass murder ... deal with it!)
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17 posted on 08/31/2007 6:42:58 AM PDT by Seabee133
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Isn’t something like 40% of Saudi Arabia’s workforce non-Saudi?


18 posted on 08/31/2007 6:44:35 AM PDT by Teacher317
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You cannot build a prosperous economy on cheap, low skill labor.

Tell that to GW.

Regards

19 posted on 08/31/2007 6:55:09 AM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment..)
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Info from CIA World FactBook on Saudi Arabia:

Filipinos in S.A. are essentially in a state of involuntary servitude, subjected to physical and sexual abuse, non-payment of wages, confinement, and withholding of passports as a restriction on their movement. Numerous Africans, including Christian Nigerian women and children trafficked into Saudi Arabia for commercial sexual exploitation. More than 35% of the S.A. population in the 15-64 age group is non-national (CIA World Fact Book, 2006 est.)

Right now it is illegal for any foreign worker, tourist or businessman to bring a crucifix, a Bible, a calendar with Christian holidays marked, or any other identifiably religious object into Saudi Arabia, even for private use.

20 posted on 08/31/2007 6:55:19 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Allah FUBAR.)
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