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LOTR Film Star Ian McKellen Admits To Ripping Out Hotel Bible Sections Against Homosexuality
LifeSite ^ | August 30, 2007 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/31/2007 12:45:40 PM PDT by NYer

AUKLAND, NZ, August 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - British Actor Ian McKellen who has used the mega-stardom he achieved playing Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings films to promote homosexuality, has admitted to ripping out pages of hotel bibles that refer to homosexuality.

In an August 10 interview on New Zealand's TV1 Close Up program McKellen was confronted by the interviewer questioning the truth of the rumour "He's the one, that when he stays in hotels rips the part of the bible out that criticizes homosexuality."

"Yes it is true," responded McKellen in even tones.  "Its Leviticus 18:22 that I object to, or is it 22:18, I've always got to look it up.  Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination. And they, I think the punishment for an abomination was being stoned to death," he said.

McKellen added, "I think it's rather obscene and pornographic, and shouldn't be there, so I remove it."

Asked how many bibles he has vandalized, McKellen replied, "I have no idea, but other people do it as well, people send me evidence that they have been removing that."

McKellen has been vandalizing bibles in the same fashion for at least a few years.  He first admitted publicly to the activity in 2004 in an interview with the UK Telegraph. (see: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=4UNBF1... )

In May last year, McKellen campaigned for homosexual 'marriage' in Britain.  He complained that a then-new UK law allowing homosexual civil unions did not go far enough. "I really can't see why the government couldn't just say gay people can get married - that would have been true equality and so much simpler.  But that hasn't been done because they couldn't face the furore," he said.

Ironically, the genius behind the story which gave McKellen his current pedestal - J.R. Tolkien - held that homosexuality was a disorder and was a staunch defender of traditional Catholic teaching on sexual morality.

Tolkien's thoughts on human sexuality are most clearly represented in his personal writings.  In Tolkein's letter to his then-21 year old son Michael, he warned that illicit sexuality is one of the prime dangers for souls.  "The devil is endlessly ingenious, and sex is his favorite subject," he wrote. 

Tolkien was very aware of the hardships of remaining faithful in marriage, but recognized that in only in God's plan for marriage can happiness be found.  He wrote, "No man, however truly he loved his betrothed and bride as a young man, has lived faithful to her as a wife in mind and body without deliberate conscious exercise of the will, without self-denial." And in another place he said, "Christian marriage is not a prohibition of sexual intercourse, but the correct way of sexual temperance--in fact probably the best way of getting the most satisfying sexual pleasure."

See the TV1 Up Close interview with McKellen here:
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/1287942?band...




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bible; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lotr; mckellen; religion; theophobia
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1 posted on 08/31/2007 12:45:42 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Gandalf’s gay? That explains why he never punched that moron Frodo.


2 posted on 08/31/2007 12:47:25 PM PDT by exile ("Get off my phone, ya big dope"- The Great One)
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To: NYer
I wonder if ripping out pages of the Bible changes the intended meaning.

I'm not sure, but somehow, I think not.

3 posted on 08/31/2007 12:48:40 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: NYer

What a man. Now do it with the Koran.


4 posted on 08/31/2007 12:48:46 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: exile

Kind of like a number of mainline churches in America. If you don’t like what God has to say on an issue, tear it out and believe whatever you want.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 12:49:09 PM PDT by NeilGus
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To: NYer
the word is Bible.

Bible.

with a capital B. it's a holy book.

6 posted on 08/31/2007 12:49:12 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: NYer
I’ve seen it in hotels. I’ve also seen seen things like Fox news channel deprogrammed from remotes, not that fox is particular on this subject, it’s amazing the petty neurotic things that leftists do sometimes.
7 posted on 08/31/2007 12:49:30 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: NYer
You, sir, are just an Ack-Tor.

You are lot less special than you think.

8 posted on 08/31/2007 12:50:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: exile

I think he might’ve donkey punched him once or twice.


9 posted on 08/31/2007 12:51:03 PM PDT by Virulas (I am the lion of the courtroom!)
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To: NYer

He’s disturbed.


10 posted on 08/31/2007 12:51:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

McKellan’s been doing this for years.


11 posted on 08/31/2007 12:51:36 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: VR-21

Exactly.


12 posted on 08/31/2007 12:51:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: NYer

He’s an amazing actor. Why do good actors always have to spoil things and open their mouths about social and political issues.

As far as Tolkien’s view..well, IIRC, Tolkien was Catholic, so I would imagine is view differed a bit from McKlellan’s.


13 posted on 08/31/2007 12:51:57 PM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: NYer

It’s like holy water to a vampire.


14 posted on 08/31/2007 12:53:13 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: NYer

Plus, it wasn’t just LOTR that made him huge. He was Magneto, too. :)


15 posted on 08/31/2007 12:53:42 PM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: NYer
Typical liberal, when the message says something they don't like they stifle the speech of others who disagree.

The hotels ought to sue Gandalf the pink for vandalism.

16 posted on 08/31/2007 12:53:58 PM PDT by infidel29 (The US Military: Doing the job politicians don't want to do.)
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To: exile

Gandalf the Gay to become what? Gandalf the Pink? Yeesh! The whole story line and the movies are forever altered for the worst in my mind.


17 posted on 08/31/2007 12:54:22 PM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: trisham

Well he is just a perfect Democrat then that’s all. For if you embrace and promote a degenerate lifestyle and condone and support taking innocent life. If you tear up sacred scripture you are just perfect for the democratic party. If you Lie under oath, have extramarital sex with
an Intern or have a sleazy pornographer like Larry Flint to do you’re bidding then you are a democrat.


18 posted on 08/31/2007 12:56:43 PM PDT by DOGHEAD
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To: NYer
"Its Leviticus 18:22 that I object to, or is it 22:18, I've always got to look it up. Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination. And they, I think the punishment for an abomination was being stoned to death," he said.

McKellen added, "I think it's rather obscene and pornographic, and shouldn't be there, so I remove it."

So we can go around removing the classifieds from free "alternative" newspapers?

19 posted on 08/31/2007 12:57:27 PM PDT by Murray the R
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To: NeilGus

I was thinking the same thing! ELCA, take notice!


20 posted on 08/31/2007 12:57:51 PM PDT by luckymom (Forget the baby whales, save the baby humans.)
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To: USMCWife6869
It makes you really appreciate actors who you know, or suspect are liberals but they also know people are watching them to be entertained, not preached from out of costume.

Having said that I still love Lord of the Rings, both the books and the movies. McKellen was an awesome Gandalf.

21 posted on 08/31/2007 12:58:52 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (RON PAUL: "It will be a little bit better now with the democrats now in charge of oversight ")
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To: NYer

This was already posted earlier today.


22 posted on 08/31/2007 12:59:57 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: NYer; Clintonfatigued; BlackElk; Clemenza; JohnnyZ; darkangel82

So in other words, he routinely vandalizes hotel property ? Classy.


23 posted on 08/31/2007 1:00:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: USMCWife6869

Huge by magneto? LOL!
There might be 3 other people who know him for that.


24 posted on 08/31/2007 1:01:10 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: NYer
Me, I always rip out that part about killing being bad. /sarc

(What a maroon.)
25 posted on 08/31/2007 1:01:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: Birdsbane
"Gandalf the Gay to become what? Gandalf the Pink? Yeesh! The whole story line and the movies are forever altered for the worst in my mind."

That's kind of silly don't you think? If someone who is less than holy plays Jesus in a movie does it make you think less of The Bible?

26 posted on 08/31/2007 1:01:15 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (RON PAUL: "It will be a little bit better now with the democrats now in charge of oversight ")
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To: DOGHEAD

But only the Christian Bible-you won’t see these cowardly hypocrites ripping out the pages from the Koran calling for death to homsexuals, fornicators, etc. Nevermind that Islam actually puts people to death for these things, and Christianity doesn’t.


27 posted on 08/31/2007 1:01:26 PM PDT by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: NYer
"Yes it is true," responded McKellen in even tones. "Its Leviticus 18:22 that I object to, or is it 22:18, I've always got to look it up. Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination. And they, I think the punishment for an abomination was being stoned to death," he said.

McKellen added, "I think it's rather obscene and pornographic, and shouldn't be there, so I remove it."

Why, of course.

God doesn't get to decide what is right and wrong.

McKellen does.

28 posted on 08/31/2007 1:02:53 PM PDT by Bob Loblaw
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To: NYer
Typical childish behavior, just what one would expect from someone sexually stunted. Making the Bad Guy go away by hiding our head under the covers is the mark of a juvenile, not a grown man.

Too bad. Ian McKellan made a great Gandalf.

29 posted on 08/31/2007 1:03:02 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: infidel29
The hotels ought to sue Gandalf the pink for vandalism.

The Gideons are the ones who might have a beef with McKellen, since they are the ones placing the Bibles.

Of course, tearing out passages of Scripture you don't like is the same as jumping off a building because you disagree with gravity.

30 posted on 08/31/2007 1:03:59 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: bill1952

Hey someone was seeing those movies, they made plenty of money. LOL, but I will admit, I loved him in that, so I may be biased.. I thought he was just evil enough in a gentlemanly way to pull it off. I concede. I am probably mistaken.


31 posted on 08/31/2007 1:04:39 PM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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And they, I think the punishment for an abomination was being stoned to death," he said.

How many homosexuals do you know who have smoked marijuana to death?

32 posted on 08/31/2007 1:04:54 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

This is old news, but it’s not surprising. Maybe his conscience bothers him a little?


33 posted on 08/31/2007 1:05:45 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: NYer
I'm guessing that The Gideons would view it as unseemly to lower themselves to a litigious stance or a public brawl over what this pervert / vandal does with their benevolent gifts, but it might provide greater public awareness of these activities if they were to do so.  They could certainly use the support that such publicity would most likely bring.

The Gideons International

From the FAQ page:

Members of The Gideons International place and distribute scriptures in 181 countries in 82 languages. We focus on five primary areas:
 
  • Hotels and Motels
  • Hospitals, Nursing Homes, and Domestic Violence Shelters
  • Schools, Colleges, and Universities
  • The Military, Law Enforcement Personnel, Firefighters, and EMTs
  • Prisons and Jails
The demand for Scriptures in these areas far exceeds our supplies that we are able to purchase through our donations. Much more could be done- if funds were available. However, we are placing and distributing more than 1 million copies of the Word of God, at no cost, every 7 days in these areas.

 

(Bold emphasis added)

34 posted on 08/31/2007 1:06:18 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: NYer

Why did you post this? Now Christians will start rioting, looting and burning at this insult to Christianity!!!!!


35 posted on 08/31/2007 1:06:30 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: NYer

Well now, we know that he knows what God thinks about his perverted life style. Tearing out those pages does not mean that they still exist in his mind.


36 posted on 08/31/2007 1:06:45 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Disambiguator
The Gideons...are the ones placing the Bibles.

Have you heard that many hotels are replacing the Gideon bibles with Algore's book?

THAT's a serious crime.

37 posted on 08/31/2007 1:07:22 PM PDT by infidel29 (The US Military: Doing the job politicians don't want to do.)
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To: VR-21

That’s okay. When I used to travel in the Middle East I would peel up the arrows on the nightstand, pointing to Mecca, and turn them around.


38 posted on 08/31/2007 1:09:32 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USMCWife6869
He was Magneto, too. :)

That likely what attracts "people" like this:


39 posted on 08/31/2007 1:09:53 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Izzy Dunne

I wonder if ripping out pages of the Bible changes the intended meaning.
I’m not sure, but somehow, I think not.

It doesn’t matter if he ripped out that scripture he missed several others that refer to homosexuals and punishment. So, Bud, be more thorough otherwise you are wasting your time.


40 posted on 08/31/2007 1:10:19 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: USNBandit
"That’s okay. When I used to travel in the Middle East I would peel up the arrows on the nightstand, pointing to Mecca, and turn them around."

Outstanding! In SERE School we called that "little victories."

41 posted on 08/31/2007 1:12:26 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: NYer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEf3GZpgISM

“MacBeth, MacBeth, MacBeth.....” (see link)


42 posted on 08/31/2007 1:12:43 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: darkangel82

I doubt it. Sounds like he’s proud of it. In any event, all the hotels he has stayed at over the past several years ought to file a lawsuit against him for what he’s been doing.


43 posted on 08/31/2007 1:13:06 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Wow! That would be the San Fransisco version of the Lincoln Memorial.


44 posted on 08/31/2007 1:15:34 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: IronJack

I don’t have anything to add to your remark... Well stated...


45 posted on 08/31/2007 1:16:10 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Ya mean that isn’t someone dressed as an Orc?


46 posted on 08/31/2007 1:17:10 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: VR-21

Good one! But I wouldn’t characterize him as a man.


47 posted on 08/31/2007 1:18:23 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Oh, now that just isn’t right. I’m going to have that image stuck in my head all day now. *walks away shuddering*


48 posted on 08/31/2007 1:18:35 PM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: NYer

Nothing like that good ole’ Liberal censorship!


49 posted on 08/31/2007 1:18:41 PM PDT by hotshu (Crooks can't help from being crooks. It's just what democrats do!)
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To: NYer

I think he has missed a few other places in the New Testament.


50 posted on 08/31/2007 1:19:48 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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