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1st female Beefeater at Tower of London
Associated Press via Yahoo news ^ | 9-3-2007 | By ROBERT BARR

Posted on 09/03/2007 5:53:10 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude

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To: billbears

1) The Queen defines herself as a King. No more need be said except that if a male heir in line was born, she’d be a footnote in history. Still stands today.

2) She said as much herself. If you read the articles printed recently about this hoopla (and spend less time grinding your axe) you’ll see that that was, in fact, on her mind.

3) You return to the notion that women need be denigrated in traditional society. In that, you betray and profound lack of knowledge about the true role of women and the powerful influence they already have. Of course, that’s not what you really want to discuss, is it?


41 posted on 09/07/2007 4:52:13 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Note, please, that this candidate was selected - meaning we don’t know the whole story. In addition to the obvious departure from the intent, tradition and purpose of the Beefeaters, she apparently is qualified only because of her 22 years as an NCO accountant.

We don't know the whole story, but we do know enough of the story to know that you're leaving out a good deal of her qualifications.

Candidates must have been a warrant officer or senior noncommissioned officer, have served at least 22 years in the army, Royal Air Force or Royal Marines and hold the Long Service and Good Conduct medal.

Deal with it.

42 posted on 09/07/2007 4:57:39 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: Greg F

We did a tour, led by one of the Yeoman Warders, last Fall.

The guy was an absolute riot, in that great, dry, British way.


43 posted on 09/07/2007 5:00:52 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Greg F

Oh, and very informative, as well. Great knowledge of the place and the history.


44 posted on 09/07/2007 5:01:33 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: BykrBayb

I said as much about her qualifications. I guess you’re reading something I haven’t. What outstanding ability does she possess? Is she skilled on the trapeze? Has she taught bird watching?

What did I miss?


45 posted on 09/07/2007 5:01:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: JillValentine

22 years of service?

I think she has probably proved herself on more than one occasion.

Salutes,
AR


46 posted on 09/07/2007 5:03:16 PM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
No, you said:
she apparently is qualified only because of her 22 years as an NCO accountant.

What does "only" mean to you?

47 posted on 09/07/2007 5:04:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
What is the meaning of is?

I'm sure her record is peachy keen and all that. This case is about PC maneuvering - nothing more and nothing less.
48 posted on 09/07/2007 5:07:50 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: StormEye

Ah well. England has had females as its leaders for years. More than one Queen, and Margaret Thatcher as PM. Guess they’re ok with women in the workforce...


49 posted on 09/07/2007 5:10:13 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
This case is about PC maneuvering - nothing more and nothing less.

I've noticed. Thank you for admitting it though. I don't see why anything other than her qualifications should be at issue, but I understand that not everyone is self confident enough to recognize the accomplishments of others.

50 posted on 09/07/2007 5:11:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

You’re the kind of person that the new CEO of the hospital where I worked disliked intensely.

“But that’s the way we’ve always done it!”


51 posted on 09/07/2007 5:16:00 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
1) The Queen defines herself as a King. No more need be said except that if a male heir in line was born, she’d be a footnote in history. Still stands today.

It does? George IV's heir was Charlotte. She died. But she would have been Queen without question. William IV became king only because George IV had no direct heirs and he was next in line. The line goes by rank, not gender, these days. Has for several hundred years. But I'm sure we can change that. Get women back to where they're supposed to be eh?

2) She said as much herself. If you read the articles printed recently about this hoopla (and spend less time grinding your axe) you’ll see that that was, in fact, on her mind

I'm sure it was on her mind. The first female Yeoman Warder. It probably weighed heavy on her as a responsibility and high privilege that it is.

3) You return to the notion that women need be denigrated in traditional society. In that, you betray and profound lack of knowledge about the true role of women and the powerful influence they already have.

Ah, 'traditional' society. Where women only hold 'certain' roles. Right....

52 posted on 09/07/2007 5:17:24 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: BykrBayb

Yes, you’re right, of course, and the lesbian fire chief in Minneapolis whose been hitting on other PC fire-people is another fine example of merit. I’m sure she’s totally different from all the other rule-bending appointees and gender-role-breaking heroes we see today.


53 posted on 09/07/2007 5:21:33 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: ktscarlett66
If so, you’re clairvoyant.
54 posted on 09/07/2007 5:22:36 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

You have a very unhealthy attitude about women. We are not at all what you portray us to be. I’d hate to imagine what kind of women you’ve spent your life with, to develop such a warped view.


55 posted on 09/07/2007 5:24:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
Please don't venture into such an ignorant and self-righteous postition. You have no idea of what kind of women are in my life and you betray your prejudice more than you know...
56 posted on 09/07/2007 5:26:42 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; BykrBayb
I’m sure she’s totally different from all the other rule-bending appointees and gender-role-breaking heroes we see today.

D#mn Margaret Thatcher. Old gender role breaking hag!! She should have just known her role and let Jim Callaghan remain PM. Matter of fact, he should have just marched up to the palace and told old Liz where she could stuff it because he (being a male of course) knew better for the nation!!

Instead the strongest ally to these US stood with Ronald Reagan throughout the 1980s under the guidance of the Iron Lady.

57 posted on 09/07/2007 5:29:34 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

If you aren’t being self-righteous in your sick description of women, the alternative is that you actually like those kinds of women.

Your lack of a respectful view of women had to have come from someplace. Don’t worry about me venturing there. I don’t want to know. But it might be a good idea for you to take a look for yourself.


58 posted on 09/07/2007 5:30:18 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: billbears

You seem to be all over the map tonight. Maggie was no sovereign, dear.

For you benefit, here’s something you may be unfamiliar with:

http://classes.kumc.edu/sah/resources/sensory_processing/images/bell_curve.gif


59 posted on 09/07/2007 5:31:48 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Have you developed your 2008 bug-out plan?)
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To: billbears; WorkingClassFilth

Isn’t it odd, how those “place holders” have a habit of making history?


60 posted on 09/07/2007 5:33:00 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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