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Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | September 5, 2007 | Gerry Braun

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by brityank

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.


Gerry Braun: (619) 542-4563;



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: burkasforall; dresscode; flyingimam; southwest; southwestairlines
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1 posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:58 AM PDT by brityank
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To: brityank

Gerry’s really tacking those Big Issues, huh.


2 posted on 09/05/2007 10:39:45 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: brityank

this should be interesting


3 posted on 09/05/2007 10:39:54 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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NOT GUILTY!


4 posted on 09/05/2007 10:40:08 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: brityank

I’ve flown Southwest for 30+ years, and their stewardesses used to wear much more revealing clothing than that.


5 posted on 09/05/2007 10:40:15 AM PDT by untenured
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To: brityank

Not Guilty!!!

6 posted on 09/05/2007 10:40:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: brityank

The girl seems overdressed by today’s standards.


7 posted on 09/05/2007 10:41:05 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: brityank

She can sit next to me.

Heck, if they run out of seats, I’ll generously offer my lap...


8 posted on 09/05/2007 10:41:20 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: brityank
Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

So long as she's not too fat, yes.
9 posted on 09/05/2007 10:41:21 AM PDT by BJClinton (And then it occured to me: a real rocket scientist posted the Friday silliness thread on Thursday.)
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After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

Since people had already boarded, I wonder if a passenger instigated the whole thing? And if a passenger was the reason for this, I wonder why SW isn't forthcoming with that info.

10 posted on 09/05/2007 10:42:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: brityank

I don’t see what the big deal is,looks like normal summer wear.


11 posted on 09/05/2007 10:42:09 AM PDT by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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To: brityank

In the interests of saving those “adults with heightened sensibilities”, I’ll sit next to her. I do it not for myself, but for all mankind.


12 posted on 09/05/2007 10:42:22 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: brityank

Even good companies hire an occasional flake. Given what people usually wear to fly these days, this girl should get a “Best Dressed” award. ;)


13 posted on 09/05/2007 10:43:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: brityank

She should never be allowed on a plane in that outfit.
Shoulda made her take it off.


14 posted on 09/05/2007 10:43:02 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: brityank

While I’d hardly say her face is pretty enough to be a model, she is certainly shapely. I can hardly believe that SW Airlines was so stupid.
This being said, now that I know they are so attuned to our delicate sensitivities, I’ll be sure to complain about any offensive burkas or headcoverings I see flying with them.


15 posted on 09/05/2007 10:43:07 AM PDT by PinkDolphin (J'essaierai de faire mieux la prochaine fois.)
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To: brityank

Finally, a middle-aged man willing to stand up for the rights of beautiful, scantily-clad blondes! Way to go, Gerry!


16 posted on 09/05/2007 10:43:08 AM PDT by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: PinkDolphin

good point!


17 posted on 09/05/2007 10:43:54 AM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: brityank
Clearest case of Bush Derangement Syndrome I've heard about in weeks!

how short was that miniskirt, anyway?

18 posted on 09/05/2007 10:44:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: mewzilla

Mmm, isn’t it Southwest who has no assigned seats? Maybe someone wanted her place.


19 posted on 09/05/2007 10:44:43 AM PDT by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: brityank

If she doesn’t like it - she should just turn the channel, LOL.


20 posted on 09/05/2007 10:44:50 AM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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