Posted on 09/05/2007 12:34:14 PM PDT by khnyny
OOps sorry for the double post !!!!!
I know it’s a long article I’ve posted b/4. It covers a lot on the medical costs as well as other illegal expenses to this country.
http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf
You’re right! Unless an illegal family is making more than poverty level, they pay no taxes and still receive welfare and child credits.
Cheap Labor ain’t
Each year, the U.S. imports, through both legal and illegal immigration, hundreds of thousands of additional poor persons from abroad. As a result, one-quarter of all poor persons in the U.S. are now first-generation immigrants or the minor children of those immigrants. Roughly one in ten of the persons counted among the poor by the Census Bureau is either an illegal immigrant or the minor child of an illegal.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/bg2064.cfm
NO WORRIES, NO $10 lettuce
Farming since he was a teenager, Scaroni, 50, built a $50 million business growing lettuce and broccoli in California’s Imperial Valley, relying on the hands of immigrant workers, most of them Mexicans and many probably in the United States illegally.
But early last year he began shifting part of his operation to rented fields here. Now, about 500 Mexicans tend his crops in Mexico, where they run no risk of deportation.
“I’m as American red-blood as it gets,” Scaroni said, “but I’m tired of fighting the fight on the immigration issue.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/04/america/export.php
I agree with that.
I’m just pointing out that the previous wave of “cheap labor” have had costs far, far, far in excess of what we’ve paid so far on this wave of “cheap labor.” The costs can go much, much higher than they already have.
That’s ok, I’ve done that myself many times.
It’s unfortunate that people aren’t willing to look at an issue objectively.
No country in this world can handle open borders with no immigration policy - it’s a recipe for disaster. Mexico’s immigration laws, for instance, are among some of the most stringent, lol.
You are close enough. Its also been quoted as 10 cents.
Whatever - it’s $1.10 to $1.20. They try to scare you with the $11 crap. If it goes to $11, nobody will buy their lettuce and they will go out of business.
I doubt that would happen.
You see it is right there. There is an overall benefit when it comes to Social Security and Medicare. That in a nutshell is why they want to legalize all of these people. They are looking for a influx of cash for both. Yes, in their small minds it may seem like the cash cow has arrived but in the long run, the ramifications are too great in every other area. Our children and grandchildren will be paying a horrific price because they will have to sustain all of the entitlements that these legalized immigrants would need. Right now, hispanics are supassing every other group in teenage pregnancy and single parent births. We KNOW FOR A FACT that young unwed mothers are more likely to remain in poverty for ever. We KNOW FOR A FACT that children of these mothers tend to do terrible in school, therefore being uneducated and unemployable once they get older. WE KNOW FOR A FACT that these children are prone to criminal behavior and gang membership. This cycle will go on and on and not only will they be a drain on our goverment, I fear our children and grandchildren will have to live with rampant crime, like we have never seen before.
They most certainly do use more in entitlements then they could ever pay. Take free meals at school. In my childs school it is $2.00 per day for breakfast and the same for lunch. If you are on a free lunch program you are entitled to both. Times that by 180 school days that is $720.00 per child, just for food.
A well visit or sick visit to the pediatrician is about $100.00 per child. Dental visits range between $60.00-$100.00. I am quoting just walking through the door, no extras, such as tests, vaccinations, medication, etc.
Childbirth, back when I had my kids, a low risk birth was around $4000.00 (16 yrs. ago), then you have medicare kick in for newborn, well visits every month or so for the first 6 months and then vaccines. Add to that WIC, the cost of formula is so high that some places need it to be locked up because of theft. WIC will provide for formula, milk, cheese, cereal, eggs, peanut butter, beans and oj.
Lets be conservative and say that these families only have 2 children. These costs are no where near $2700.00 per year.
Rockbridge Elementary School in Norcross GA is 60% Hispanic, children eligible for free lunch is 88%. Guess who is paying for that?
Can anyone valdate this?
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Why worry about official figures? If you know anything at all about farm work you know that to pick two heads of lettuce a minute on average would be slow indeed. That would be 120 heads per hour so the increase could not possibly be more than whatever the hourly increase is divided by 120. Ten cents a head would equal at least 12 dollars per hour more in wages. As a matter of fact I think that for one dime per head I could make a lot of money picking lettuce if that was my total compensation, and I am 63 years old.
YEAH illegal immigration is a real winner.
It is analogous to the Deep South situation under slavery. The powerful few got cheap and disciplined labor and the rest of public had to share the burden of keeping it controlled under the threat of slave insurrections. The final result was a backward, poverty stricken land for all but the elite. The slaveowners got all the benefits of cheap labor without having to pay all the costs.
You bet! It has already started with the Detroit big three whining before Congress.
This is to be a very difficult issue to counter, with,the big business collusion behind it, just like illegal immigration.
With the Senators and lobbyists we have basically an accreting oligarchy.
It could have been all different, with each citizen facing his responsibilities, but it would have taken an extraordinarily convincing conservative. That we don't have.
The very thing that hard working Americans are striving to get away from, poverty and all its ills. Bush is importing into our neighborhoods.
There is about 5 to 7 million illegals in our jails (local, state, and federal). They make up about one third of the prison population. The last I heard, it cost about $50,000 a year per prisoner. 5 million times $50,000 is $250 Billion.
Why do businesses really want the illegals? Two reasons, because they avoid the high costs of non-wage federal and state mandates (Workman's comp, etc.). The number one reason is that they have to use illegal labor because their competitor is using illegal labor!!!!! Sector by sector crack downs could fix this.
Why do Democrats want illegals? Two reasons: first is that they need to expand the future poor vote. Americans are leaving poverty behind and voting more Republican. The number one reason though is the public schools. Americans have taken their kids out of public schools in astounding numbers. Most of the liberal run school systems in and around the cities have 50% or more of their students comprised of the kids of illegals. No illegals and their funding gets cut in half, schools get closed, teachers get laided off, and liberal administrators loose their cushy six figure salaries.
Exactly. We still haven't solved all the problems from the cheap labor that was ended in 1863.
This is simple math and I’m amazed more people haven’t figured this out at well.
Illegal aliens are criminals and take much more than they give back to America.
Send them all home and build the fence!!!
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