Steve and team on his Weblog may have very well found a global mistake on Hansen's GISS temperature calculations. Steve as you may or may not remember proved the "Hockey Stick" by Mann was a farse as well as he justy recently found the NASA USA GISS temps were wrong and the US has not warmed since 1934---developing---keep looking to see when this story breaks!!
1 posted on
09/06/2007 4:54:54 PM PDT by
Freep EE
To: Freep EE
Go Steve McIntyre! Get a FOIA request and force Hansen to release the code!
2 posted on
09/06/2007 4:56:55 PM PDT by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
To: Freep EE
Hansen calculated seasonal and annual averages the old fashioned way ~ he "proxied them in".
That's how they get temperature data for most of Africa, the Sahara and Gobi deserts, the atmosphere of the Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, and all the other large ocean basins ~ just "proxy them in" and you got your answers to everything!!
4 posted on
09/06/2007 4:58:50 PM PDT by
muawiyah
To: Freep EE
5 posted on
09/06/2007 5:00:13 PM PDT by
sageb1
(This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge
Too hot to handle, PING!!! Hey Ernest! I goofed up and this big red message said to me:"Could not find anybody named 'Ernest at the Breach'"
6 posted on
09/06/2007 5:00:15 PM PDT by
SierraWasp
(Thou shalt not steal!!! Our greedy governments in Sacramento and Washington hate competition!!!)
To: Freep EE
7 posted on
09/06/2007 5:00:49 PM PDT by
donna
(Warmest year on record is 1934 not 1998 due to NASA climate data Y2K bug, LOL!)
To: Freep EE; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
New!!: Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH
Ping me if you find one I've missed.
updating the story so far...
8 posted on
09/06/2007 5:01:27 PM PDT by
xcamel
(FDT/2008 -- talk about it >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
To: Freep EE
9 posted on
09/06/2007 5:03:55 PM PDT by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
To: Freep EE
Woo hoo! The term "Hansen Error" is destined to enter the lexicon of all statisticians, for generations to come.
10 posted on
09/06/2007 5:06:21 PM PDT by
rfp1234
(Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
To: Freep EE
Has there ever been a case of the errors being of a nature unfavorable to the “humans and capitalism are bad” hypothesis?
11 posted on
09/06/2007 5:09:01 PM PDT by
M203M4
(May the cankles of Herr Heinous rest lightly upon us)
To: Freep EE
When are we going back to the Coming Ice Age???
13 posted on
09/06/2007 5:11:14 PM PDT by
Mikey_1962
(If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
To: Freep EE
—here’s hoping Hansen achieves the same sort of ignominy in “climate change” research as Micheal Bellisles has in Colonial firearms research—
14 posted on
09/06/2007 5:14:22 PM PDT by
rellimpank
(-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: Freep EE
“Hansens method of combining different scribal versions is erroneous and has corrupted his entire data set...”
The two key words in the story:
Hansen + corrupt.
To: Freep EE
Steve as you may or may not remember proved the "Hockey Stick" by Mann was a farse as well as he justy recently found the NASA USA GISS temps were wrong and the US has not warmed since 1934---developing---keep looking to see when this story breaks!! I don't know if Steve McIntyre would claim the US trend overall has not warmed since 1934.
Yes, 1934 just barely edges out 1998 and 2005, but individual yearly temperatures don't make a trend.
To: Freep EE
18 posted on
09/06/2007 5:46:54 PM PDT by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: Freep EE
Huh? here is an official station not only are the calculations considered correct but this is at University Of Arizona. It is suppose to be located at least 100ft. from pavement so it can't influence temperature readings.
21 posted on
09/06/2007 6:16:23 PM PDT by
#1CTYankee
(That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
To: Freep EE
My impression is that there is an overall bias It is with great sadness that I have to agree with your statement. Yet, I have always believed that NASA scientists are above reproach because they are apolitical in their work. Yes, we all have prejudices, but even so, a genuine scientist looks and reports the data and lets the chips fall where they may. Even the appearance of corruption should be nonexistent at NASA. I still believe that nearly all NASA scientists are genuine, including those at the GISS.
Perhaps the manned space program has maintained its integrity; there is zero room for error there.
22 posted on
09/06/2007 6:24:27 PM PDT by
olezip
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