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I can't believe this is happening.
1 posted on 09/06/2007 9:07:50 PM PDT by abt87
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What are the details of the case? I’m not a fan of getting an advertising page from the NYSlimes when I click the link...


2 posted on 09/06/2007 9:11:03 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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I can't believe this is happening.

Drunk illegal immigrants sleeping in the streets or cops "exposing" them to death through unnamed actions?

4 posted on 09/06/2007 9:16:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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This one is murky....can’t really tell what is what.


5 posted on 09/06/2007 9:19:03 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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“I can’t believe this is happening.”

why?

Alcoholism doesn’t cause torn mesentery, a membrane that connects the intestines to the abdominal wall and it sure doesn’t happen by itself.


8 posted on 09/06/2007 9:23:44 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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It’s unclear to me that the officer actually hit the vagrant. If he did, and caused these injuries, he should be tried. My question is this. Could the vagrant have injured himself? Did this have to be an instance of brutality by the officer?

The grand jury seems to think so. I’m not sure how reliable the body is, if there was a good DA.

I would hate to see the officer have to stand trial unfairly, but would hate it worse to see the guy get off for killing someone.

What a mess.

Whatever the case with the dead vagrant, be he illegal or the habitual town drunk, he didn’t deserve the death penalty for his actions. If he is shown to have died at the hands of another, I want the perp taken down.


10 posted on 09/06/2007 9:25:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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Well, I have no judgment on the situation. But here's the part that bothers me:

The death of [petty criminal] Mr. Perez, who was here illegally, upset the already fragile relations in this wealthy village in northern Westchester County, where professionals and owners of rambling horse farms coexist with day laborers and struggling families.

He wasn't an IMMIGRANT. He was an ILLEGAL ALIEN, dammit.

11 posted on 09/06/2007 9:27:04 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: abt87
There are people much Much MUCH MUCH higher up who really deserve to be charged.
32 posted on 09/06/2007 11:23:07 PM PDT by VR-21
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So what’s the problem? One less illegal alien bum in the world! One down, twenty million to go! As they used to say in the classic tv show Rawhide - Head em up and move em out!


34 posted on 09/07/2007 2:07:19 AM PDT by jhroberts
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This is not clear- what did the PO do? Was he even there when the illegal died? If cops were arrested every time a homeless, drunk and stupid illegal died, we wouldn’t HAVE any police departments left. There aren’t enough cops for all the drunken illegals on ANY given night.


36 posted on 09/07/2007 2:30:50 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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from article:

"The death of Mr. Perez, who was here illegally, upset the already fragile relations in this wealthy village in northern Westchester County, where professionals and owners of rambling horse farms coexist with day laborers and struggling families. About one-quarter of residents are Hispanic, most of them immigrants from Guatemala. The death of Mr. Perez followed at least two other suspicious and unsolved homicides of illegal immigrants in recent years. Santos Bojorguez, 33, was found strangled here in 2003, and Robert Martinez, 42, was killed the same way in 2004. "

38 posted on 09/07/2007 5:08:35 AM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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ping


40 posted on 09/07/2007 9:00:32 AM PDT by gubamyster
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In a tightly knit community of old money wealth comes 2,500 illegals (25% of the total population) and someone’s surprised that one of them gets found stomped to death?

We need a few more facts.


44 posted on 09/07/2007 9:54:03 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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"I can't believe this is happening. "

Can't believe WHAT is happening? There is simply not enough information in that NYT story to know if the cop had anything to do with this mans's death or not.

Multiple overlapping problems here of course, guy is here illegally, obviously a drunken vagrant with an arrest record, and he turns up dead with a coroner's report indicating the guy might have suffered at someone else's hands. The record shows the cops where there and likely the last people to see the man alive. Three officers were present, but only one is charged...

I have enough here to suspect a story, but the story's not in that report and there's nothing available to be shocked about just yet..

Cheers,
Lloyd

45 posted on 09/07/2007 10:05:48 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: abt87

This still happens in some P D’s across the country, he was a trouble maker, so they just took him for “A ride”.


47 posted on 09/07/2007 11:30:52 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("life is dangerous")
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http://wcbstv.com/seenon/local_story_250210204.html

Vid report.


50 posted on 09/08/2007 11:44:39 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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