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Why Thompson thinks he can win
The Hill ^ | September 07, 2007 | Byron York

Posted on 09/08/2007 5:17:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But Giuliani, for one, gets the rock-star treatment from Republican audiences, too.

The leftwing mayor has had the limelight as the only real "celebrity" candidate in the field.

I think the bloom is off the rose with Rudi and people are looking for more than "You know, I was mayor of NYC on 9/11". And Rudi doesn't have a second act.

And along comes Fred...
21 posted on 09/08/2007 7:34:38 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Gritty

Glad he’s taking his time. This campaign started way too early, leaving several to burn out well before most people started to pay any serious attention. Smart candidates will stay mostly in the wings until ‘08.


22 posted on 09/08/2007 7:35:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: George W. Bush
Giuliani ... gets the rock-star treatment from Republican audiences

Analyze those audiences, and they're probably made largely of [sub]urban Republicans - those who do honestly think he's right-wing.

23 posted on 09/08/2007 7:37:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Sir Francis Dashwood wrote: “Even the so-called “conservative” media pundits on television and “conservative” columnists are trying to cram liberalism right down our throats...”

No more call, folks, we have a winner! Excellent observation, Sir Francis.

Jennifer Rubin of Human Events and The American Spectator is tucked so deeply away in Rudy Giuliani’s pocket that she feels the need to trash Fred on a daily basis.

The lien on Townhall.com’s Hugh Hewitt is held by Mitt Romney, and poor Hugh is such a Mittwit that he has embarassed himelf on more than one occasion.

Even National Review has veered so far off course in its promotion of Rudy McRomney that it is barely recognizable as a conservative publication.

Movement conservatives long ago turned our backs on the liberal MSM. Now the once conservative media has abandoned us.

Thank God above for talk radio and the blogosphere!


24 posted on 09/08/2007 8:08:14 AM PDT by Josh Painter ( "Our government must be limited by the powers delegated to it by the Constitution." - Fred Thompson)
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To: nathanbedford
Surely you cannot contend that he has done that so far.

That is PRECISELY what I contend he has done so far. He is the only caandidate to have seen the problem, ARTICULATED IT, and posited a potential path forward.

A HARD path, by the way; there are no easy ones left.

But, give the man at least a bit of a break- he only announced two days ago.

He'll be polling ahead of Giuliani within ten days, and by the end of November Fred will be on top in both Iowa and New Hampshire. And it will be despite his refusal to pander, and despite the "chattering class".

And despite his taking on an issue that beat Bush.

By the way, IMHO, the only reason Bush failed in his attempt to fix Social Security is that he completely failed to put the issue into its true context. i.e. Bush failed to construct a compelling narrative to close the deal. Thompson won't make that mistake, and Democrats will be forced into submission by the voters back home.

25 posted on 09/08/2007 8:12:28 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I think that straight talk and candor will impress most Republicans. From her past performance we all know that Hillary has a problem with the truth. I don’t think that the time has come for another charmer in a Brooks Bro. suit in the White House. Go get em Fred.


26 posted on 09/08/2007 8:14:19 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Sturm Ruger

I am sick and tired of the tepid responses and actions of the GOP... we need new party leadership instead of the ‘going along to get along’ mentality... Newt started out great in ‘94, and California actually had a majority in their statehouse. Along came the RINOs snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...


27 posted on 09/08/2007 8:14:58 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: ANGGAPO
I think that straight talk and candor will impress most Republicans. From her past performance we all know that Hillary has a problem with the truth. I don’t think that the time has come for another charmer in a Brooks Bro. suit in the White House.

Yep. Brooks Brothers makes good suits... I prefer Kallison's of San Antonio... but that is another subject...

28 posted on 09/08/2007 8:18:46 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Fiji Hill

Romney supports fetal cell experimentation using “unwanted” embryos.


29 posted on 09/08/2007 8:22:34 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Well I would to, but I am stuck here in Yankee territory for the duration.
30 posted on 09/08/2007 8:24:15 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: ANGGAPO
Sorry-—(too) my bad.
31 posted on 09/08/2007 8:26:32 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But Giuliani, for one, gets the rock-star treatment from Republican audiences, too.

Fred and Rudy. It must be the baldness.

32 posted on 09/08/2007 8:28:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let's see:

The guy got in late, compared to the other candidates in both parties

He is pretty much ignoring New Hampshire, which seems to put their noses out of joint

Now, if he can win the nomination without raising and spending a lot of money, Fred Thompson could single-handedly change the course of American politics for the future. Let's hope he succeeds.

33 posted on 09/08/2007 8:29:49 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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He is pretty much ignoring New Hampshire, which seems to put their noses out of joint

No, Fred has NOT ignored New Hampshire. He was here to meet folks on June 28. He's here this weekend for 3 meet-the-voter events.

"Ignoring NH" is what the a-hole Chairman of the NH GOP wants you to think, and what Fox News/Carl Cameron decided, based on their own personal ambitions.

34 posted on 09/08/2007 9:31:44 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"Ignoring NH" is what the a-hole Chairman of the NH GOP wants you to think,

Did you ever notice that with the addition of two little letters the name "Fergus" quickly becomes "Fergitus". NH politics sure have changed in the last ten years.

35 posted on 09/08/2007 10:03:59 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: nathanbedford
So far, Fred Thompson has demonstrated conviction but many observers, at least in the chattering class, are yawning.

That's because the 'chattering classes' think they are way more sophisticated than we drooling peons. If someone doesn't genuflect to them, that person is dissed.

That's why I don't pay attention to the pundits, at all.

36 posted on 09/08/2007 10:39:45 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Bernard
He is pretty much ignoring New Hampshire, which seems to put their noses out of joint

He's going to be holding two rallies in NH this weekend; one in Nashua, and one in Manchester. I'd love to attend; I'm only an hour away, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna get there. I'll have to watch it on the Internet. ;o)

37 posted on 09/08/2007 10:45:26 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Then maybe ignoring is not the right word, but he certainly seems to be putting the significance of New Hampshire into perspective compared to other states.
38 posted on 09/08/2007 12:16:38 PM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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To: Bernard

I agree! With the ever-changing primary dates, candidates can’t afford to devote themselves just to Iowa and NH anymore. And with the Internet, candidates can reach us directly. We don’t have to attend GOP-sponsored events, watch TV, or read newspapers to find out where a candidate stands.

But some state party bureaucrats still think like it’s 1960.


39 posted on 09/08/2007 12:23:45 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: John Valentine
That is PRECISELY what I contend he has done so far. He is the only caandidate to have seen the problem, ARTICULATED IT, and posited a potential path forward.

Since you have twice condescended to lecture me to this effect I am sure you will have no bother finding a citation with which to favor me.


40 posted on 09/08/2007 12:32:20 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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