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Granite Write-Off: Is Thompson even trying to win New Hampshire?
National Review ^ | September 8, 2007 | Andrew Cline

Posted on 09/08/2007 2:51:30 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix

I love NRO, check in on their site every day. But Mitt has been an early contributor to their foundation or whatever and has given them plenty of his time. Hate to say it, but it seems that between the Mitt-love and their local Rudy-love—not too many McCain supporters!—they have come off as pettily biased against the Fredster.

Critics may like to target him for supposed laziness and a less-than-bill-crazy senate record, but those are two of the best things they could be picking on: the guys who take too much to the senatorial collegiality or spend a great amount of time focused on details are not chief executive material. And Fred has accomplished too much in his life for such complaints to ring truer than you’d want. Going after the younger wife is another sign that they actually haven’t got anything too potent against him.


21 posted on 09/08/2007 3:23:28 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: PJ-Comix
What has he been doing the past 6 months?

He has no organization, he has no policy plans, he told Laura Ingraham he has not studied the other candidate's positions.
22 posted on 09/08/2007 3:24:15 PM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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To: 9YearLurker
Why can't they support the candidates they like? They are not a news organization.
23 posted on 09/08/2007 3:25:45 PM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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To: Reagan Man

How many electoral votes from New HAmpshire have gone to the GOP candidate the past several Presidential elections?

Hmmm?


24 posted on 09/08/2007 3:26:15 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Reagan Man

Thanks Reagan Man.


25 posted on 09/08/2007 3:28:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: PJ-Comix
Thompson’s no-show at Wednesday night’s debate unquestionably hurt him with a lot of New Hampshire Republicans. The debate was co-sponsored by FOX News and the state GOP. A lot of Republicans felt that by skipping an official party-sponsored debate Thompson was rudely dismissing the entire state party. So in addition to disappointing Granite Staters in general, he offended Republican insiders in particular.

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The New Hampshire of today is not the New Hampshire of twenty or thirty years ago. There has been an influx of Massachusetts residents, and it has changed the political climate for the worse.

We are also looking at a changing primary season. New Hampshire no longer will have the clout it has had in the past.

And finally, Fred is not going to run his campaign to suit anyone but himself. It may be one of the reasons his supporters are with him. I know it's one reason I am.

26 posted on 09/08/2007 3:29:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PJ-Comix

“[B]ehind in fund-raising” is necessarily a baseless assertion. The whole point of the delay was to keep the size of his campaign warchest secret until late January. Because Thompson doesn’t have to report his finance to the FEC until then, neither his opponents nor the pundits know whether he’s ahead or behind in fundraising.

I still think the delay in the formal announcement was a piece of strategy worthy of Sun Tzu himself, however much the supporters of other candidates may try to paint it as a mistake.


27 posted on 09/08/2007 3:29:57 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: PJ-Comix
It seems to me that ALL of the candidates are running regional campaigns right now. Some are ignoring Iowa, some are really getting after it in Iowa.

Ditto New Hampshire.

Ditto South Carolina, and Florida...

Ditto the NE states, and what might loosely be called 'Dixie'.

Ditto the mid-West, and the mountain states.

I don't think anyone has enough money to campaign in 30 or 35 states right now, but the way all these primaries are compressed this election, that's really what's required right now, or very soon will be.

I think the Republican primaries this year are going to be much more of a marathon than a sprint. Everyone is spending time, money, and associated resources where they feel they have the best leveraged impact.

If any one person had 6 times the money of the second closest competitor, it might be different.

28 posted on 09/08/2007 3:31:18 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: PJ-Comix
"A lot of Republicans felt that by skipping an official party-sponsored debate Thompson was rudely dismissing the entire state party. So in addition to disappointing Granite Staters in general, he offended Republican insiders in particular.

"...disappointing Granite Staters in general..." WTF is this idiot talking about? Who are the "lot of Republicans"? I live in NH. No one but the political junkies give a rat's a** at this stage. This guy is just repeating whatever Carl Cameron @ Fox News spouted.

"...he offended Republican insiders in particular." Yeah, pretty boy Fergus Cullen, NH GOP Chairman. No wonder there was a split in the state party over choosing Fergie for chairman.

29 posted on 09/08/2007 3:46:51 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: SuziQ
Ronald Reagan talked past the media, directly to the American People. Fred is doing the same thing... and the rest are just using and manipulating the media to sell themselves as the be-all to all candidate. Fred is the real deal... and when his numbers rise as they most assuredly will, the sheep will follow... sheep being the party at the State levels.

LLS

30 posted on 09/08/2007 3:50:24 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Always Right

It matters because a large number of its contributors can’t recognize (or, maybe, that’s admit) that whatever he is, Rudy isn’t a conservative.


31 posted on 09/08/2007 3:53:28 PM PDT by Steve_Stifler
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To: elizabetty
...he told Laura Ingraham he has not studied the other candidate's positions.

Another Fred statement out of context. Go find the direct quote, you're spreading misinformation.

32 posted on 09/08/2007 3:54:04 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: elizabetty

How could Fred study their positions? Several of them change positions almost daily. In some cases the other candidates hold multiple positions on the same subject... depending on where they are and who they are talking with. I have heard at least three nuanced immigration answers from rootie... the last being that Illegal Immigration is not illegal.

LLS


33 posted on 09/08/2007 3:56:26 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Mr Rogers
how many people would vote for Rudy vs Fred based on Rudy spending more time in NH?

According to FOX on debate night, 71% are still undecided !!!

34 posted on 09/08/2007 3:56:42 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: The_Reader_David

“If your enemy is angry, irritate him”.

LLS


35 posted on 09/08/2007 3:58:07 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Optimist; Reagan Man; trisham; elizabetty

National Review is no longer a conservative magazine. It is becoming in many respects hard to distinguish from the New Republic. It was a movement conservative magazine in the 1960s and even in the 1970s, but it has drifted away from many conservative principles. Some conservatives do write for it, but many are willing to drink the Rudy Kool Aid or trust that Romney is now an authentic conservative, despite the scant evidence. It has become primarily an elitist Northeastern mouthpiece, which looks down its nose at the hinterlands, particularly the south. I canceled my subscription years ago.

I am sure Fred is not sharing his strategy with any folks at NR, especially this fellow(whoever he is). This little preppie thinks it is too late. What a joke. He does not know his history, which most of these pundits do not. There are many examples of candidates hiring staff a lot later and overcoming leads that were more formidable than this. One example is 1996 in Louisiana. Phil Gramm, the Senator from the neighboring state of Texas was far ahead and was the overwhelming favorite. Enter Pat Buchanan, who did not begin assembling a staff until Christmas. He wound up clobbering Gramm in Louisiana on February 6, only 6 weeks later, driving him from the race and propelling himself to strong finishes in Iowa and a win in New Hampshire. And Fred Thompson has a heckuva lot more going for him than Buchanan and a lot more time.

If Fred wins Iowa, which I think is likely, that will probably end it, because the momentum will likely propel him to a win in New Hampshire. Organization is grossly overrated. It does not elect Presidents. It serves as an excuse when someone loses.


36 posted on 09/08/2007 4:24:24 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: PJ-Comix

Gosh! Fred Thompson is barely in the race officially, and he’s already being attacked just on the conservative side! If Fred does eventually end up as the final GOP Presidential nominee, then he may be so worn out after all of the attacks that he’s continuously getting from all political sides that Hillary Clinton and “socialism” end up as the final victors on November 4, 2008! The entire U.S. could truly be in an even greater “mess” for both the short-term and for the long-term after the ‘08 elections are truly done!


37 posted on 09/08/2007 4:35:22 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: PJ-Comix
What the "Fed Heads" and his detractors fail to ever mention, is why FT is where he is in the polls.

Without a doubt he has "curb appeal." Part of that is he is taller than the other candidates and has a baritone voice. Research has shown taller leaders usually prevail in contests--think George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Deep voices signify strength and, especially, if they have a regional affectation.

Thus far, the Fed Heads seem to be stuck. All they see is he is prolife, claims to want to kick the Mexicans (illegals) back to Mexico. He could be a cyclops as far as they are concerned.

FT's other strength is performance on Paul Harvey radio. His comments and analysis were quite good.

I still see him as seriously flawed--he is a consumate insider's insider in Washington DC and can't raise money. His service in the US Senate was not exceptional and did not validate him as a leader. Finally, although no one is willing to discuss it, this man has an Indolent Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. He has received chemotherapy and radiation for this and claims (along with his oncologist) no problem in running for President. In actual fact, he has an ongoing cancer even if it is, as described, "indolent." If it is a follicular type that has spread, it is likely he will have an exacerbation within 5-10 years (according to data from a Goggle search) In the meantime, the Fed Heads are quite emotional and prone to ad hominem argumentation. Just proves that Drew Weston's The Political Brain was on target as to the true motivators of the electorate.

38 posted on 09/08/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: elizabetty
He has no organization, he has no policy plans, he told Laura Ingraham he has not studied the other candidate's positions.

Rubbish. Of course he has an organization and that he hasn't stated policies doesn't mean he doesn't have them (hint: he couldn't talk about them before he announced). I don't give a damn if he hasn't studied the other candidates' positions -- I want to hear his.

39 posted on 09/08/2007 4:43:00 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: shrinkermd

I apologize for not reading the entire article. Please fill me in:

Is there some kind of “electronic blackout” in place in NH?
No internet, no TV, no phones, etc.?

FRed announced on Leno. I thought Leno was broadcast in ALL 50 States. Fred’s website also had the announcement of his entrance. I thought all 50 states had internet service.


40 posted on 09/08/2007 4:49:58 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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