Granite Write-Off: Is Thompson even trying to win New Hampshire?

National Review ^ | September 8, 2007 | Andrew Cline

[SuziQ]

I don't give a damn if he hasn't studied the other candidates' positions -- I want to hear his.

So true!

[crazyshrink]

“In the meantime, the Fed Heads are quite emotional and prone to ad hominem argumentation.”

Seems like the reverse is also true in intentionally describing Thompson supporters as “Fedheads”.

Actually, many supporters of candidates of both parties suffer the same inclinations.

[Lib-Lickers 2]

well said my man

Go Fred!

[shrinkermd]

“Fed Heads” is not a pejorative. It has come into use and is being used by self-described supporters of FT.

[Soul Seeker]

Well, let’s see.

N.H. chose John Mccain in 2000.

N.H. chose John Kerry in 2004.

New Hampshire is looking toward a Democrat Senator, and where there are Republicans, they are increasingly altering their rhetoric to be liberally appealing.

Why should I care whether he takes N.H.? I don’t think he should dismiss it, but they aren’t as important as they’ve set themselves to be either.

And, the same bright eyed “leaders” in the state that have allowed Democrats to make gains in their state are NOT the people that should be giving him advise if he wants to win anyway. By all means, GO to N.H. But go to the people and speak conservatism. Educate them. But don’t kowtow to the Liberals in N.H. nor the leadership that has done little to nothing to combat that liberal movement inward.

As for Fox? Fox is holding fundraisers for Hillary, pimping Rudy, slavishly devoted to wall street’s dream of no borders and NO friend to conservatives of late. If they got ticked off that he didn’t show at their debate, good. I feel no more need to soothe their ruffled feathers then i do NBC, CBS or ABC at this point. heck, I actually feel more favoably disposed to CBS lately just because of the fairer Iraq piece they did the past week.

[Politicalmom]

Sure. Because we support “Fed” Thompson.

I suggest you do research before spouting ignorant lies. It makes you look like an idiot.

[LibFreeOrDie]

Well said! (And I’m a NH voter.)

[crazyshrink]

I interpet your 3X use of “fed head” as a derogatory term in the context of your post. I have never seen it used even on FR, except in typo’s, which doesn’t mean you are not accurate in describing it as a pejorative.

[AmericanExceptionalist]

How many electoral votes from New HAmpshire have gone to the GOP candidate the past several Presidential elections?

Actually, New Hampshire gave its four electoral votes to George Bush in 2000. Had that not happened, we would have all been uttering the frightening words, "President Al Gore," beginning in January 2001.

In 2004 the Granite State narrowly reverted to Democratic control, giving its electoral votes to fellow New Englander John Kerry.

[COgamer]

“I think Fred is in excellent shape now that Rudy has basically come out in favor of open borders to absorb many of those who will jump that sinking ship.”

At this point, I think Rudy could commit murder and his supporters would still back him. Largely because the media would never get around to telling them until AFTER the primaries.

[COgamer]

“How many electoral votes from New HAmpshire have gone to the GOP candidate the past several Presidential elections?”

Electoral votes are irrelevant in a primary... It’s the delegates that count.

[Constantine XIII]

IMHO, it is retarded that the New Hampshire primary is considered to be sooooo important. No offense to New Hampsters (lol), but the state is a very small fraction of the country. It is just a freak accident of history that they are first and therefore prominent among the primaries.

[2ndDivisionVet]

NR and Fox News are both in Rudy’s corner, as I’m guessing you already know. Carl Cameron of FNC was the one that called attention to Fred’s “Gucci” shoes at the state fair and Sean Hannity is almost slavish in his Rudy-boosting.

[asparagus]

Hate to say it, but it seems that between the Mitt-love and their local Rudy-love—not too many McCain supporters!—they have come off as pettily biased against the Fredster.

Poor Fred! The MSM hates 'em. Hugh Hewitt can't stand him. The National Review don't like him much. Everybody is out to get Fred. Fred is probably singing:

Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, Guess I'll go eat worms, Long, thin, slimy ones; Short, fat, juicy ones, Itsy, bitsy, fuzzy wuzzy worms.

Down goes the first one, down goes the second one, Oh how they wiggle and squirm. Up comes the first one, up comes the second one, Oh how they wiggle and squirm.

[asparagus]

Let's count the items that are no longer conservative or important because Fred isn't winning:

1. New Hampshire

2. Iowa

3. fund raising

4. announcing b4 Labor Day

5. National Review

6. Fox News/Sean Hannity/O' Reilley/Carl Cameron

7. Hugh Hewitt

8. ground organization

9. skipping debates

10. face to face campaigning

Things that are suddenly important

1. Internet/You Tube

2. Announcing on Jay Leno

3. South Carolina

[hoosierpearl]

Well, some people were spouting off just before Fred declared, that he wasn’t going to run.

Some people who don’t support Fred like to hang out on Fred threads, I guess they have nothing better to do.

One group of Fred supporters came out with this:

Nine out of ten dogs prefer the scraps off Fred’s table.

[Constantine XIII]

LOL, don’t gripe at me about Fredheads, I’m a Duncan Hunter guy.

I just think it’s funny NH is such a hueg deal. :p

[restornu]

NH goes back to the days of JFK election and Paul Harvey anouncing the results at 5 AM in the Morning!

and saying it was a good indicator who would win the election if they won NH in that small town population 20?

[CheyennePress]

Without a doubt [Thompson] has "curb appeal." Part of that is he is taller than the other candidates and has a baritone voice. Research has shown taller leaders usually prevail in contests--think George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Deep voices signify strength and, especially, if they have a regional affectation.

Thus far, the Fed Heads seem to be stuck. All they see is he is prolife, claims to want to kick the Mexicans (illegals) back to Mexico. He could be a cyclops as far as they are concerned.

And there you have it. But Thompson doesn't want to kick the Mexicans back to Mexico. Well, maybe little by little, but he doesn't want to try too hard. He has specifically said that we need to work out a "deal for citizenship" for them. He has also said that he's not worried about the 12-million who are here, but the next 12-million.

Oh, and did this man who is worried about the next 12-million tell you that he doesn't see a wall of "stone and mortar" as necessary? Or that he doesn't think that employers should be saddled with the "burdens" of verifying the legality of their employees? Well, of course he doesn't. He voted against creating an identification system whereby immigrants' legal identities could be verified by employers. And he voted against a bill that would increase fines on employers when it was found that they were too low to curb the hires of illegals.

So we've got drones of so-called conservatives opposed to tort reform, the border fence, and the federal marriage amendment now. Lovely. But my lousey, how they do support a fan who is "folksy."

[asparagus]

It is a rediculous process to be sure. It goes back to the days when the party bosses controlled who would be nominated. I posted in another thread how crazy it is that SC (which ranks 49th in both the SAT and the ACT) has such influence in the nominating process. If we voted in order of education statistics, then perhaps the people who can't figure out how to operate voting machines would vote last!

This year's election may determine whether the old ways are still relevant. Still, its jarring to see conservatives constantly throwing conservative institutions such as National Review under the bus, simply because some criticism is thrown their way.