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GOP version of Kucinich may be key person in race (Houston Chronicle on Ron Paul)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 9/8/07 | Roy R Reynolds

Posted on 09/09/2007 5:30:35 PM PDT by traviskicks

For better or for worse — well, for worse — Ron Paul has become the Dennis Kucinich of the Republican Party.

His presidential campaign is an Ayn Rand express train rolling through a country already taken over by collectivists of various stripes. That there may be a caboose full of crazy sitting at the end of that train is enough to doom his chances.

But please, Ron, don't drop out just yet. The country might not want another Texan with nutty ideas and a political tin ear, but it may need one.

Many conservatives breathed a heavy sigh of relief when Fred Dalton Thompson confirmed Thursday that he was running for president. But while Thompson may be the best overall candidate for the Republicans, having someone like Paul in the hunt ought to generate healthy debate and more informed politics.

Unfortunately, it seems from the poll numbers that Americans like their politics devoid of straight talk. And it's not just Hillary Clinton trying to run away from her vote on the Iraq invasion.

Rudy Giuliani, running on the basis of his outstanding leadership around 9/11 (and the willingness of people to forgive earlier missteps), promises he would appoint pro-life judges, while still holding the pro-choice line. Mitt Romney is a large mass of wishy-washy whose riskiest stance so far was turning his back on soon-to-be-former-senator Larry Craig.

John McCain still speaks with conviction, but everyone seems disinterested in hearing what their cranky grandfather has to say about military strategy and the uselessness of torture.

Paul, however, is consistent with his message of defanged government and neo-isolationist policies. He talks about getting rid of the Internal Revenue Service and making sure the government leaves its citizens well enough alone.

That kind of talk ought to rally Texas conservatives, with the "get off my land" attitudes so prevalent over the past, oh, 170 years. Honestly, if all his positions are taken as a whole, it looks like the backbone of Texas conservatism. But he's barely making a dent in the polls even in his own backyard.

Because Paul still comes across as a little nuts. He doesn't fit in with the rest of the GOP, somehow. Opposition to the Patriot Act and the Iraq war just prove he's not a team player. He's putting principles above party, which is exactly how not to get ahead in Washington these days.

He's also fearless about his image. He's willing to spread his message on potentially hostile grounds such as The Colbert Report, Real Time With Bill Maher or the Republican debates.

In the Information Age, you're not likely to see many candidates take such a cavalier attitude. The current administration has taught them to seek familiar, friendly ground before saying anything that passes for substance these days. Surrounding yourself with sycophants, yes-men and screened supporters during the modern campaign is just a rehearsal for the later office.

Though Texans especially should have an appreciation for a straight-talking rogue, Paul has no realistic chance at nomination, much less election. Not even if he ran against a Clinton-Obama double bill.

But now that Thompson has (finally) formalized his plunge into presidential politics, he might think about taking some lessons from the contrarian Paul.

Thompson's running mate no matter who else joins the ticket is the ghost of Ronald Reagan. This would be the same Reagan who bucked his party by running for the 1968 and 1976 Republican nominations as the conservative alternative.

Reagan got elected in 1980 by finding a way to build a bridge between the "Religious Right" and low-tax libertarians, but he made his career with a rabble-rousing speech in support of Barry Goldwater's failed 1964 campaign.

The Republicans also seem to forget that they achieved power in 1994 by speaking their mind and promising policies that would return the country to congressional sobriety.

Thompson appears to be a fine federalist with charisma to spare. Here's hoping that he'll follow his convictions and become a strong presence and strong leader, able to convince others that his is the right path, rather than just being obstinate.

Virgil noted that "fortune favors the bold." Looking at Ron Paul, that may not be true.

But Paul's boldness could help rattle the conventional wisdom of today's Republicans and elevate the national discourse and direction. If so, he's the most important man in the race.

Even if nobody votes for him.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; keywordvandalabcdefg; kucinich; paulestinians; rino; ronpaul
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"That kind of talk ought to rally Texas conservatives, with the "get off my land" attitudes so prevalent over the past, oh, 170 years. Honestly, if all his positions are taken as a whole, it looks like the backbone of Texas conservatism."
1 posted on 09/09/2007 5:30:42 PM PDT by traviskicks
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To: traviskicks

I feel sorry for Mike Gravel. He was the most entertaining dem candidate. No mention of him.


2 posted on 09/09/2007 5:32:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: traviskicks
"That kind of talk ought to rally Texas conservatives, with the "get off my land" attitudes so prevalent over the past, oh, 170 years. Honestly, if all his positions are taken as a whole, it looks like the backbone of Texas conservatism."

"GOP version of Kucinich" shows just how conservative RP is.

3 posted on 09/09/2007 5:33:09 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: traviskicks
"That kind of talk ought to rally Texas conservatives, with the "get off my land" attitudes so prevalent over the past, oh, 170 years."

Had Ron Paul been at the Alamo:

"Davy, the Mexicans have legitimate grievances. If we all move back to Tennessee, they won't attack us."

4 posted on 09/09/2007 5:34:49 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: traviskicks

Those two IDJOTS are made for each other: It’s the Kucinich/Paul ticket no it’s Paul/Kucinich no it’s not it’s Kucinich/Paulno not it’s Pau............


5 posted on 09/09/2007 5:35:38 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: traviskicks

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich should live in a tree together and bake magical cookies.


6 posted on 09/09/2007 5:36:13 PM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." —Cindy Sheehan)
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To: traviskicks
I think two other recent articles are worth posting with this, the first is a WSJ article by Peggy Noonan where she stated:

The debate was full of fireworks about Iraq, about its essentials -- the rightness of the endeavor, and what should rightly be done now. From the libertarian Ron Paul a blunt argument against the war: We never should have gone in and we should get out. "The people who say there'll be a blood bath are the same ones who said it would be a cakewalk. . . . Why believe them?" His foreign policy: "Mind our own business, bring our troops home, defend our country, defend our borders." After Mr. Paul spoke, it seemed half the room booed, but the other applauded. When a thousand Republicans are in a room and one man of the eight on the stage takes a sharply minority viewpoint on a dramatic issue and half the room seems to cheer him, something's going on.

Ron Paul's support isn't based on his persona, history or perceived power. What support he has comes because of his views. As he spoke, you could hear other candidates laughing in the background. They should stop giggling, and engage in a serious way.


The second is this article:
Bringing Politics Back to the People - The Do it Yourself Campaign of Ron Paul, a fiery call to activism, regardless of political persuasian, IMO.
7 posted on 09/09/2007 5:36:42 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: George W. Bush; OrthodoxPresbyterian

ping


8 posted on 09/09/2007 5:38:00 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: counterpunch
Well maybe your right, but Drudge is reporting on a non smoking call from Fred.
9 posted on 09/09/2007 5:39:51 PM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: traviskicks

IMHO

Ron Paul is snookering the public - he converted to Republicanism - the one true party dedicated to the good of the nation - only for the purpose of stirring the pot - to get his message out, knowing he cannot possibly win the nomination.

Then he will return to the Liberterian Party, running as their nominee, hoping for a coup.

As with Perot, most of his votes would normally be Republican. Remember Clinton would not have won either election without Perot. They are an odd couple (Clinton/Perot)- but the strategy gave us slick willie.


10 posted on 09/09/2007 5:43:09 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: traviskicks

In before the keyword vandals! bump


11 posted on 09/09/2007 5:43:27 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: traviskicks

Paul is an ostrich candidate just like most Dems in Washington. Head in the sand....no understanding of the threat in front of us.

His libertarian views on limited government are great, but isolationism is simply not ever a solution.


12 posted on 09/09/2007 5:44:04 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: reefdiver
Well maybe your right, but Drudge is reporting on a non smoking call from Fred.

Fred didn't call for non-smoking. He said al Qaeda tactics and limits on personal freedom, such as a smoking ban, drove Iraqis over to the Americans.

13 posted on 09/09/2007 5:44:18 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: traviskicks

“For better or for worse — well, for worse — Ron Paul has become the Dennis Kucinich of the Republican Party.”

He can thank Alex Jones and the troofers for that.


14 posted on 09/09/2007 5:45:01 PM PDT by Grunthor (Lazy Like a Fox)
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To: traviskicks

I happen agree with alot of what Ron Paul says. The sad thing is that he will never even be given the opportunity to be a serious candidate. Today, the only possible way to win the Republican nomination is to toe the party line and to not rock the boat. It’s ashame that this is the way it is. I wonder if Ronald Reagan would be able to get his message across today seeing as how he didn’t toe the party line either.


15 posted on 09/09/2007 5:47:14 PM PDT by frankiep (Beer - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems)
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To: dirtboy; reefdiver
Fred didn't call for non-smoking. He said al Qaeda tactics and limits on personal freedom, such as a smoking ban, drove Iraqis over to the Americans.
That's right.
And the MSM is reporting it as confusing the audience, which goes to show just how much they has failed in educating the public about what is going on in Iraq.
It most certainly confused them, too.
 
16 posted on 09/09/2007 5:47:27 PM PDT by counterpunch ("The Democrats are the party of slavery." —Cindy Sheehan)
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To: Abcdefg
In before the keyword vandals! bump

I see you made it in. *\;-)

17 posted on 09/09/2007 5:47:27 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: frankiep
The sad thing is that he will never even be given the opportunity to be a serious candidate.

Nothing sad about the fact that Paul's forays into nutbattery keeps most people from taking him seriously. It shows there is still hope for this country against the threat we face.

18 posted on 09/09/2007 5:49:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: All

Ru Paul is a fool. The gator will eat him first.


19 posted on 09/09/2007 5:50:40 PM PDT by - Smokestack Lightning (Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfort School, may you rot in hell for all eternity..)
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To: SandRat

Paul/Gravel 08 L0L


20 posted on 09/09/2007 5:53:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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