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Conservative Leader John Tory: Evolution Must be Taught in Science Class; Creation only for Rel...
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | September 6, 2007 | John-Henry Westen and Elizabeth O'Brien

Posted on 09/09/2007 8:50:09 PM PDT by monomaniac

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1 posted on 09/09/2007 8:50:13 PM PDT by monomaniac
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Evolution Must be Taught in Science Class; Creation only for Religion Classes

Well of course. What's the problem with that?

The theory of evolution is a branch of science, while creationism is pure religion. And everybody knows it!

2 posted on 09/09/2007 8:52:40 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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Next thing you know, they’ll be calling for math to be taught in math class, and English in English class.


3 posted on 09/09/2007 8:54:14 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Coyoteman

Coyoteman, pulling the night shift for the voice of reason. Good on ya man. I don’t believe the world is 6,500 years old but I don’t have the energy to argue once the literalists get on this thread. You’ll be up all night. Good night!


4 posted on 09/09/2007 9:13:46 PM PDT by spyone
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I think everybody whose read anything on the topic “knows” evolution is a theory, not a fact. I want my children to hear all theories, not just the secular progressive’s theory.


5 posted on 09/09/2007 9:16:17 PM PDT by TraditionalistMommy
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To: monomaniac

Duuuh!


6 posted on 09/09/2007 9:16:33 PM PDT by pierstroll
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If you don’t post some happy news real soon , I want you to round up the last non-gay mounties and move to Idaho . We are getting rid of Larry Craig , I think you will be ok here.
7 posted on 09/09/2007 9:18:25 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. F Troop)
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I think everybody whose read anything on the topic “knows” evolution is a theory, not a fact. I want my children to hear all theories, not just the secular progressive’s theory.

You are correct that the theory of evolution is a theory.

But you are incorrect if you think that there are other competing theories within science.

Creationism and ID are not scientific theories, as much as their proponents may claim that they are. They are just the latest attempts to try to get their religion taught in public schools. So far, these attempts have been rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court (creation "science") and by a U.S. District Court in Pennsylvania (intelligent design).

8 posted on 09/09/2007 9:22:59 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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KOOLAID-DRINKING INTREP


9 posted on 09/09/2007 9:29:44 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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PING!


10 posted on 09/09/2007 10:44:48 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Coyoteman

I like your tag line.


11 posted on 09/09/2007 11:14:32 PM PDT by Timbo64
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To: TraditionalistMommy
I think everybody whose read anything on the topic “knows” evolution is a theory, not a fact. I want my children to hear all theories, not just the secular progressive’s theory.

All theories? Are you serious? Do you understand what that means?

You also understand that gravity is a theory, not a fact, right? Do you also suggest teaching Aristotelian physics because you want your children to hear all theories?

12 posted on 09/10/2007 3:30:05 AM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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It's good to see that Canadian conservatives aren't dominated by fundamentalist lunatics.
13 posted on 09/10/2007 1:51:22 PM PDT by curiosity
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I hope the private schools don’t take government money and don’t adopt government dictated curriculum. Look at what public money has done to European churches. Schools need to keep their freedom so they can fight the false doctrine of evolution.


14 posted on 09/10/2007 6:48:13 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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Schools need to keep their freedom so they can fight the false doctrine of evolution.

I take it you mean religiously false, rather than scientifically false?

15 posted on 09/10/2007 7:36:58 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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"The Christian-based school would have to teach the Ontario curriculum"

17 posted on 09/11/2007 8:05:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I want my children to hear all theories, not just the secular progressive’s theory.

So would this include the Hindu creation theories as well?

18 posted on 09/11/2007 8:47:50 AM PDT by GunRunner (Thompson 2008 - Security, Unity, Prosperity)
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To: Coyoteman; monomaniac; coloradan; TraditionalistMommy; TenthAmendmentChampion; spyone
"The theory of evolution is a branch of science, while creationism is pure religion. And everybody knows it!"

Everyone also knows that the theory of evolution and science are based on the philosophy of naturalism with the following assumption that naturalism is then the ultimate arbiter of truth.

Or maybe not...

But no naturalist wants 'everyone' to know that or they wouldn't constantly pretend that the philosophical foundation of naturalism followed by the assumption that naturalism is then the ultimate arbiter of truth isn't an exercise in circular reasoning for 'science'.

19 posted on 09/11/2007 8:49:13 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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They are scientific theories (whether you may want to argue on the merits is another topic; your personal preference, I would argue only on the merits, but then again it difficult to do rather than spew out adhominim fallacies..).

I would respect you more, if you were honest and just admit that you don’t believe that creation science holds up under the weight of emirical evidence (though I would argue othewise..), rather than relying on the trite and frankly old darwinist idea that creation “science” isn’t really scientificly based..

(Some of the origins of this theory are religious-supernatural in nature- yet we aren’t testing religion (God): we are testing empirical (or rather forensic) scientifically empirical evidence for/against both macro-evolution and creation theory and intelligent design theory)..So will you argue your point rather than trite adhominim attacks..! ????


20 posted on 09/11/2007 9:18:41 AM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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