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'Police Match Madeleine DNA To Hire Car'
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Posted on 09/10/2007 12:54:03 PM PDT by hotdog777

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To: hotdog777

I will be interested to hear the police explain what the McCann’s allegedly did with Maddy’s body for twenty-five days and how she was still bleeding at that time.


61 posted on 09/10/2007 1:30:03 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: anymouse
But more likely the Portuguese police are covering up their sloppy investigation.

The only sloppy aspect of their investigation so far is taking the McCanns at their word.

If this DNA evidence is so damning of the parents, it should pass muster of independent review.

It already has. It has been through a Portuguese lab and a UK lab.

I bet the police retract this claim real quick once they are asked to show the details.

They have already handed over the case, including all the DNA evidence, to the prosecutor.

They have shown the details.

62 posted on 09/10/2007 1:31:29 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: MindBender26

Did Nifong move to Portugal?


63 posted on 09/10/2007 1:31:34 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: wideawake

The poster I was responding to was commenting on the smell of a decomposing body.

While I guess there are ways you could store a body for 25 days so that, when finally transported, it could start bleeding, I don’t think any of them would also lead to the small of a decomposing body.


64 posted on 09/10/2007 1:32:34 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wideawake

Sorry, but cops have zip, zero.

Assuming that story from cops is true, all they have is that at sometime, somehow some of her blood got into trumk of car.

I can give you a dozen reasonable doubt explanations right now.


65 posted on 09/10/2007 1:33:25 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: sarasota
I don’t suppose it’s possibly coincidental that the car had previously been rented by the kidnappers and later rented by the parents?

That would be quite a coincidence indeed. I presume the police have investigated all the intervening renters and company employees by now - if they got this wrong, they would be in serious professional and legal trouble at this point.

66 posted on 09/10/2007 1:33:38 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: utahagen

Hmm.

Yep, I’m not a forensic specialist. I simply thought that in the past the idea of their being blood flow was used to suggest someone had died recently, vs having been dead for a while.

But I guess that’s not the same as the blood being gone, or no longer flowing.

Although I wonder how two doctors would store a dead body for 25 days in a way that would THEN allow it to actually bleed into the car they used to transport it.

Wouldn’t they have had it in a body bag or other plastic container?


67 posted on 09/10/2007 1:35:13 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MindBender26
Sorry, but cops have zip, zero.

They have DNA evidence verified by two labs.

Assuming that story from cops is true, all they have is that at sometime, somehow some of her blood got into trumk of car.

The trunk of a car they had not rented until after she disappeared.

I can give you a dozen reasonable doubt explanations right now.

I'll take the first six.

I presume one of them will be that the "real killers" happened to rent the exact same car that the McCanns did.

68 posted on 09/10/2007 1:35:48 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Buckhead

That’s what I am thinking.


69 posted on 09/10/2007 1:36:34 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Guenevere

Monster if you believe the Portugese police, who are under a lot of pressure, not to mention corrupt and incompetent.


70 posted on 09/10/2007 1:37:51 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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"The evidence came in blood samples"

Okay, they rented the car five weeks after she disappeared.

Not to be too graphic but where does one stash a body for five weeks so that the blood doesn't dry up?

I dunno, maybe I just don't have a criminal mind but it just doesn't add up to me that they'd find blood that would have been placed there five weeks after the fact.

71 posted on 09/10/2007 1:38:44 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Wouldn’t they have had it in a body bag or other plastic container?

Freeze it then thaw it out!

I suspect Portugal is taking a black eye on this case and hit on tourism! In any event, the news media will have a new case to "solve" for many months!

72 posted on 09/10/2007 1:39:33 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Even if the McCanns wrapped their daughter’s body in plastic, it’s still likely there’s be some leakage in the trunk. Between the summer heat and the jostling of the car...well, it wouldn’t be surprising if at least some trace of bodily fluids remained in the trunk after the body was removed. (I should say that I am unlcear if the police believe Madeleine’s body was ever in the rental car. It’s possible that simply clothes or linens with Madeleine’s blood on them — and scientists can tell if blood came from a living or dying person — were at one point in the rental car trunk.)


73 posted on 09/10/2007 1:39:57 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: stinkerpot65
corrupt and incompetent

There is much talk of their supposed incompetence and corruption, but not a lot of evidence of it.

Can you cite some?

74 posted on 09/10/2007 1:40:20 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Juana la Loca
"If the theory is that the McCann’s accidentally killed Madeleine by oversedating her, where did the blood come from?"

Overdosages of several drugs can cause nosebleeds...not saying this is what happened, but merely throwing it out there as a possibility.

75 posted on 09/10/2007 1:42:46 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: xarmydog

Maybe they did not leave them alone - that is just their story to suggest abduction.


76 posted on 09/10/2007 1:43:13 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: wideawake

25 days later ?
Wonder where the body was in the interim ?


77 posted on 09/10/2007 1:44:17 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: JimSEA; Condor51

That bothered me too. But then I just read that the parents weren’t considered suspects until all other paths of investigations dried up and they backtracked and began looking at the parents. If that is indeed true, then they probably would not have been watched. It’s still strange, though, I agree. Everyone would have known what they looked like, so they took a big risk.


78 posted on 09/10/2007 1:45:11 PM PDT by twigs
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To: sarasota
I don’t suppose it’s possibly coincidental that the car had previously been rented by the kidnappers and later rented by the parents?

That's an obvious question - who else rented the car? This is a supposedly small coastal town. I'm sure there are not fleets of rental cars on stand by, waiting for the masses.

If the McCann's are guilty, why did they go to such lengths to focus world-wide media attention? The paparazzi were everywhere. The whole scenario of the McCann's hiding the body, etc., is ludicrous.
79 posted on 09/10/2007 1:45:56 PM PDT by khnyny (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: wideawake
I’ll take the first six.

1. She scraped her knee and we were getting rid of some of her old clothes.

2. If she had been dead for 25/35 days, how did liquid blood get anywhere?

3. How was body hidden from police search?

4. Her DNA was on everything in our possession, as was her mother’s, father’s, sibling’s etc.

5. Eschior did it

6. Global warming, (Bush’s fault)

7. Not global warming, (Still Bush’s fault)

80 posted on 09/10/2007 1:49:01 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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