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Study shows vitamin C's cancer-fighting properties
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | Mon Sep 10, 2007 | Will Dunham

Posted on 09/10/2007 6:26:45 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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Just remember the First Law of Toxicology:

The dose makes the poison.

Or, an older version:

"The right dose differentiates a poison and a remedy." Paracelsus.

1 posted on 09/10/2007 6:26:48 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

All Vitamin C now comes from China! No thanks!


2 posted on 09/10/2007 6:29:28 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: aculeus; Coleus; wagglebee; neverdem; thefactor; ELS; martin_fierro; Doctor Raoul; Jim Robinson; ...

random ping—this is NOT a ping list


3 posted on 09/10/2007 6:30:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Liberals love humanity but hate people" Dick Armey)
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To: acoulterfan

Nah...they’re still making ascorbic acid in Switzerland and Germany. And here, too.


4 posted on 09/10/2007 6:31:29 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Liberals love humanity but hate people" Dick Armey)
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To: Pharmboy

Toxicology of drugs and vitamins are two different things.


5 posted on 09/10/2007 6:36:06 PM PDT by Balata
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Dang said more research is needed and cautioned against taking high doses of vitamin C based on these findings.

I've read this advice for 30 years now. There's never enough research for vitamins. If statins had similar results, there would be an advertising push starting tomorrow.

6 posted on 09/10/2007 6:37:19 PM PDT by aimhigh
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ping


7 posted on 09/10/2007 6:37:23 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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“Another antioxidant, N-acetylcysteine, also limited tumor growth in the mice, the researchers said.”

Where can I get me some N-acetylcysteine?


8 posted on 09/10/2007 6:38:51 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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The NIH has been (essentially) endorsing very high IV doses of Vitamin C in cancer cases for two or three years now. They published their findings in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. I wonder where Dang fits in.
9 posted on 09/10/2007 6:39:16 PM PDT by the_doc
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Are you serious?I just bought a jar of crystal Vitamin C powder from Trader Joe’s today.I looked at the label and all it said was Distributed and sold by Trader Joe’s,Monrovia,Ca.
I don’t trust Chinese made products either.


10 posted on 09/10/2007 6:41:18 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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Vitamin C is extraordinarily safe.

So go ahead, folks, load up! Take ten grams or so...

after you spend a couple hours on the crapper, you won’t do it again!

I’m usually in for 4-5 grams a day.


11 posted on 09/10/2007 6:42:44 PM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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vitamin C should come from food. It’s one of the easiest vitamins to get. If you eat liver you can even get enough without eating any plants (for all you anti-vegetarians out there)


12 posted on 09/10/2007 6:58:46 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Kenny500c
Where can I get me some N-acetylcysteine?

www.lef.org

13 posted on 09/10/2007 7:17:15 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Pharmboy

This is not as simple as it sounds, because ‘a’ may not equal ‘a’. That is, some years ago when they were studying bioflavanoids for their anti-cancer effects, they discovered that for unknown reasons, while they worked in natural substances, when removed from those natural substances as pure bioflavanoids, they didn’t work.

There is a very good chance that what is having the beneficial effect comes not from the chemical being studied, but from a different chemical, or even a complex organic, like a protein, present in tiny amounts with the main chemical.

It may work in the body, but not in cancer cells in a petri dish, because it effects another part of the body that in turn acts upon the cancer cells.

This is really complicated stuff.


14 posted on 09/10/2007 7:17:27 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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in most animals, vitamin c is a hormone-like substance produced by the liver. when under stress an animal can produce 10 grams of vitamin c with no problem, it would be impossible for a human to consume that much vit. c from food, the RDA is only a recommendation to prevent scurvy, much higher amounts are needed for a “therapeutic” dose.
15 posted on 09/10/2007 7:20:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Popocatapetl

You mean it might stimulate the gene that stimulates a particular substance that might be envolved?


16 posted on 09/10/2007 7:23:26 PM PDT by Balata
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To: Pharmboy

I like Ester C.


17 posted on 09/10/2007 7:23:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Pharmboy

The Late Dr. Robert Atkins, the Atkins Diet creator, did extensive research into this years before he died. His research showed the same.


18 posted on 09/10/2007 7:31:07 PM PDT by elizabetty (The job of POTUS is not about ideology alone; it is about COMPETENCE to do the job WELL.)
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If you eat liver you can even get enough without eating any plants

Are you thinking of Vitamin A? Here's a link to the USDA nutrient database entry for braised beef liver. 1.9 mg Vitamin C per 100 grams of liver. Well, the link doesn't work - at least with my browser. If you want to check it out, and the link doesn't work for you either, you'll have to get there the long way around: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/. Type in "liver" for the search keyword and go from there.
19 posted on 09/10/2007 7:40:24 PM PDT by caveat emptor
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I just had a Fuzzy Navel (Vodka and orange juice)

I'M CURED!!

20 posted on 09/10/2007 7:41:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Boycott FReeper Petronski's Wyler's! Insist on Kool-Aid! The best refreshment for Paulistinians)
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