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Mars rover making way inside giant crater (Victoria Crater)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 9/11/07 | AP

Posted on 09/11/2007 9:38:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

NASA's Mars rover Opportunity is making its way into a giant impact crater to learn more about the Red Planet's geologic past.

Engineers sent commands to Opportunity to drive into Victoria Crater and received a confirmation signal from the rover. It will be several hours before NASA knows how well the drive went.

Opportunity is expected to drive all six wheels into the crater and back out before making the full plunge several days from now.

The drive comes two months after a massive Martian dust bowl kept Opportunity and its twin Spirit hunkered down to conserve energy.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: crater; making; mars; marsrover; opportunity; victoria
They're gonna sample the slope first and then in a few days have a half mile crater to play in..

Like Timex watches , after all these years, still tickin' after takin' a lickin'.

1 posted on 09/11/2007 9:38:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Sweet, they survived the dust storm.

I think the more interesting thing are those caves that MRO found. We need to find out how big they are, how stable, and if its possible to seal them with airlocks and pressurize them for living and working space.


2 posted on 09/11/2007 9:40:30 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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Press Release Images: Opportunity

Forty Meters from Entry to Victoria Crater

3 posted on 09/11/2007 9:41:26 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I would love it if the crew were playing...

All day I face
The barren waste
Without the taste
of water...cool...clear...water (water,water)


4 posted on 09/11/2007 9:41:43 AM PDT by picard
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To: NormsRevenge

Is this the same rover that was supposed to have died long ago?


5 posted on 09/11/2007 9:42:00 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: NormsRevenge

These things are just amazing.


6 posted on 09/11/2007 9:42:36 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marvlus

There’s 2 of them, and they were only expected to last 90 days.

This January will be 4 years.


7 posted on 09/11/2007 9:43:13 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: Crazieman

“and if its possible to seal them with airlocks and pressurize them for living and working space.”

Yeah sure, and then Cohaagen will start charging us for air!
Start the reactor, free Mars! ;)


8 posted on 09/11/2007 9:44:32 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Crazieman
This January will be 4 years.

Wow! Seems to me we should find a way to be independent of oil, if we can do this!

9 posted on 09/11/2007 9:47:08 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: marvlus

They feared losing both rovers if the recent dust storms prevented them from getting solar rays to keep ‘em running, they shut them down and parked them except for running essential stuff, the batteries have held up well considering...

one of them does have a bum inside wheel but they are still able to get around..


10 posted on 09/11/2007 9:47:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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Mars rover to make risky crater descent (Opportunity ready to descend into Victoria Crater) ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1858008/posts
Posted by NormsRevenge
On News/Activism ^ 06/28/2007 5:22:13 PM PDT · 54 replies · 1,201+ views

AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/28/07 | Jon Antczak - ap
LOS ANGELES - NASA’s aging but durable Mars rover Opportunity will make what could be a trip of no return into a deep impact crater as it tries to peer further back than ever into the Red Planet’s geologic history. The descent into Victoria Crater received the go-ahead because the potential scientific returns are worth the risk that the solar-powered, six-wheel rover might not be able to climb out, NASA officials and scientists said Thursday. The vehicle has been roaming Mars for nearly 3 1/2 Earth years. Scientists and engineers want to send it in while it still appears healthy....


11 posted on 09/11/2007 9:51:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Has the Rover been able to take a picture of the U.S. flag our astronauts planted? [chuckle]


12 posted on 09/11/2007 9:54:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

nope.. lol. Another ‘Priceless!’ moment from one of America’s ‘space-y’ Congre$$critters.


13 posted on 09/11/2007 10:01:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Free Luna! All hail Adam Selene!


14 posted on 09/11/2007 10:03:51 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Free commerce is the only just way to redistribute wealth.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They just keep going, and going , and going.....

15 posted on 09/11/2007 10:21:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don’t know how to ‘read’ that picture, Norm.


16 posted on 09/11/2007 10:28:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe they’ll find one of those on the surface.

Or maybe they’ll find my parents...

*shifty eyes*


17 posted on 09/11/2007 10:30:07 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder who keeps the solar panels clean?


18 posted on 09/11/2007 10:31:07 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: wastedyears

It’s a panorama shot,, the gully or washout area in front of the rover is where it will go forward thru to make entrance into the main crater area in the distance shown in the upper middle left.


19 posted on 09/11/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why can’t they make cars as good as these things lol. Buy one with a planned life of 6 years, have it go on for 60.


20 posted on 09/11/2007 10:31:38 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: SGCOS

Dirt devils had helped in the past, they don’t have a cleaner built-in.


21 posted on 09/11/2007 10:32:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: wastedyears

It’s a panorama from the edge of the crater looking down. You only see dust there. And the crater edge or floor. I’m not trained in looking at these photos and don’t spend 8 hours a day (or more) looking at them like the mission scientists do so I can’t tell you anything more about them. The black areas are “dead zones” for the camera, considering there would be parts of the rover in the way (solar panels/wheels) even if the photos exist.


22 posted on 09/11/2007 10:36:26 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am not a “Richard Hoagland fan”, but part of the image seems strange, and I don’t understand if it is just a distortion from the presentation and format it has been delivered to us, or what.

On the left 1/3 of the image, left of center of that section, above the black (no image) area at the bottom, there are two very symmetrical features that appear to be some type of “arms” (camera or sensor booms?) of the rover. Not an issue.

But, just to the right of them and in what appears to be the foreground (landscape) appears another very symmetrical area. It has the appearance/shape (we know it isn’t) of what a “neighborhood” would look like in an earth sattelite image. I am using that description only to describe its symmetrical appearance, not to imply that that’s what it is.

The strangeness (to me) is not that it is such a thing (a neighborhood), but how symmetrical it is. Nature rarely ever creates such very symmetrical (look how the little “rows” line up) features in landscapes - the weathering aspects, and affects, of nature contain too many variables to create them.

Maybe, like I said, there is a distortion in the presentation of the image. I’m just intrigued, not “spooked”.


23 posted on 09/11/2007 10:40:14 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: wastedyears
Just wanted to add, you can find more photos from the rovers here.
24 posted on 09/11/2007 10:41:25 AM PDT by AntiKev ("No damage. The world's still turning isn't it?" - Stereo Goes Stellar - Blow Me A Holloway)
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To: 1rudeboy
"Has the Rover been able to take a picture of the U.S. flag our astronauts planted? [chuckle]"

You are sooooo bad! ;) (I love it)

25 posted on 09/11/2007 10:43:32 AM PDT by CarolAnn (If we aren't supposed to shoot animals, then why did God make them out of meat?)
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To: NormsRevenge
What remarkable engineering! They may last 20 years...

Mike

26 posted on 09/11/2007 10:44:04 AM PDT by MichaelP (The Big Picture IS important!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cool, I see it now.


27 posted on 09/11/2007 10:49:23 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: marvlus; txzman

It’s a remarkable accomplishment, certainly, but I wouldn’t want a car that cruises at the speed of those rovers!


28 posted on 09/11/2007 11:04:27 AM PDT by Kahonek
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To: Red Badger

The hamster in the rover must be getting tired by now.


29 posted on 09/11/2007 11:07:15 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: NormsRevenge; KevinDavis

Bump and Ping.

Good news, thanks Norm.


30 posted on 09/11/2007 12:56:13 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn’t it inspiring to think of our descendants seeing these little guys in a museum some day?

And the museum is as likely to be on Mars as on Earth.


31 posted on 09/11/2007 1:22:41 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: SGCOS
I wonder who keeps the solar panels clean?

Have you noticed the brush on Marvin's helmet?

32 posted on 09/11/2007 1:24:48 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: Wuli

It’s a Martian city. Not big though, about a foot across.


33 posted on 09/11/2007 1:25:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m starting to think more and more it is some sort of static effect.


34 posted on 09/11/2007 1:27:57 PM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: Wuli

Left side: antenna, arm, solar panel.

Center: arm (possibly camera boom)

Right side: solar panel.


35 posted on 09/11/2007 1:28:57 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: wastedyears

Makes ya homesick, don’t it?


36 posted on 09/11/2007 1:29:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Wuli

It’s part of the rover itself. The photo is a mosaic of a bunch of images. In a couple of the images, the panels of the rover are in the very foreground.


37 posted on 09/11/2007 1:30:30 PM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cute little buggers!


38 posted on 09/11/2007 1:31:07 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Crazieman
This January will be 4 years.

Maybe the Martians are maintaining them for us.
39 posted on 09/11/2007 1:31:16 PM PDT by jrg
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To: txzman

Solar cells have a lot to recommend them. Except cost. If solar cell panels were actually cheap, like 1/100 what they cost now, a lot of people would have them and maybe cheap electric cars that really would last a lifetime.


40 posted on 09/11/2007 1:33:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Yeah sure, and then Cohaagen will start charging us for air!
Start the reactor, free Mars! ;)

Coincidentally, I just watched the Blu-Ray version of "Total Recall" again the other night. One of Arnold's best - insanely violent for its time, but almost tame by today's standards. Too bad he doesn't deal as firmly with California Democrats. ;)

41 posted on 09/11/2007 1:35:03 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: marvlus
This January will be 4 years.

Wow! Seems to me we should find a way to be independent of oil, if we can do this!

Yep.  All you have to do is reduce your life to 5 volts and 400 watts per day and you're golden.

42 posted on 09/11/2007 1:43:31 PM PDT by Phsstpok (When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for the post, Norm. Those rovers are just one of the coolest stories ever. American science and engineering at its best!


43 posted on 09/11/2007 1:58:02 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Billthedrill
My brother misses me.
44 posted on 09/11/2007 2:08:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Yeah, Arnie is a huge disappointment politically, but I will always be a fan, grew up on too much of his stuff.

See you at the party Richter!


45 posted on 09/11/2007 4:39:44 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

spaceflightnow.com

Dawn asteroid probe back on the launch pad again
BY JUSTIN RAY
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: September 11, 2007

The eight-year, 3.2-billion-mile mission is scheduled for liftoff from Florida’s east-central coast on Wednesday, September 26 at 7:25 a.m. EDT. The morning’s available launch period will extend to 7:54 a.m.


The probe will be dispatched on a trajectory to encounter Mars where it will use the Red Planet’s gravity in a sling-shot maneuver for the trek into the asteroid belt for reconnaissance of the massive asteroid Vesta in 2011 and “dwarf planet” Ceres in 2015.


46 posted on 09/12/2007 9:44:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (Stop Change while it is perfect.)
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