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US Confirms Israeli Air Strike On Syria
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-12-2007 | Tim Butcher

Posted on 09/11/2007 7:18:21 PM PDT by blam

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To: Spktyr
Though, interestingly, while it can *see* a B-52 at service ceiling, it can’t actually hit it - doesn’t have the altitude capability.

Then use the HARMs on the things that can reach a BUFF, then send in the BUFFs to deal with the SA-22 systems.

121 posted on 09/13/2007 5:27:54 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: JewishRighter
when it comes to NBC material being released, Israel really needs to be sure they can't get blamed

Isreal and USA will be blamed for anything, anytime, no matter the proof or situation.

Might as well go b%lls to the wall and and worry about PR when the smoke clears...my .02...

122 posted on 09/17/2007 12:50:45 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Gilbo_3

G3: I like yer .02 and I tend to think like that. Still, there is still the good ol’ US of A, Israel’s best friend among the nations and maybe one or two other countries that matter that shouldn’t be alienated if it can be helped.


123 posted on 09/17/2007 3:19:37 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter

I agree to the extent that weve tried to be ‘diplomatic’ in all phases of this conflict. But, enough is too much, at this point Id rather see the fight get done. Bullies are like rabid dogs, the ONLY thing that matters is destroying them. Any dogs that find a cure for their disease short of death can get to work cleaning up the mess. No different than what we did to/for Germans and Japan once upon a time...


124 posted on 09/17/2007 8:23:42 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Spktyr

Thanks for the write up.

I actually think that the Pantsyr actually has a pretty good ammunition capacity. For comparison the British Marksman (SPAAG only) carries 400 35mm rounds. The Avenger carries 8 Stingers (much shorter range)and a modified M2 with The more famous Gepard only carries 320 rounds, and there’s been talk of adding short range SAMs too. Now, the 35mm is probably more effective (the Russians went to 30mm because it was better than 23mm), but I wouldn’t call the Pantsyr lightly loaded for its job.

It’s kind of hard to compare with western systems given that I think most western countries have adopted the U.S. doctrine of air superiority through the air force—see the Avenger which I see as only being effective against helos.


125 posted on 09/18/2007 2:08:16 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Oh well, I was incoherent above, but I’m hoping people can piece it together.


126 posted on 09/18/2007 2:12:10 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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Does anyone think that maybe Israel attacked the S-300s Syria’s supposed to have instead of the shorter range Pantsyrs? IMHO, the S-300s present a much greater threat to Israel’s dominance of the air than do the Pantsyrs.


127 posted on 09/18/2007 2:23:32 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Gilbo_3; ChessExpert
Apropos of our exchange a while ago on this thread, see this, if you haven't already: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1900827/posts

I'm not sayin' I toldja so, I'm just sayin'. Way Cool, Israel.

128 posted on 09/23/2007 4:57:05 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter

Thanks for the ping, I hadnt gotten round to reading that article yet. seems that the MSM is avoiding this story like the plague[holding breath]. We’ll have to wait & see if the blame USA/Isreal crowd in this country spins it as our provocation, or coverup, or both. in 3...2...1...


129 posted on 09/24/2007 8:41:04 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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