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US Confirms Israeli Air Strike On Syria
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-12-2007 | Tim Butcher

Posted on 09/11/2007 7:18:21 PM PDT by blam

US confirms Israeli air strike on Syria

By Tim Butcher in Tel Aviv
Last Updated: 2:26am BST 12/09/2007

A US official has confirmed that Israeli warplanes carried out an air strike "deep inside" Syria, escalating tensions between the two countries.

The target of the strike last Thursday remained unclear but Israeli media reported that a shipment of Iranian arms crossing Syria for use by the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia in Lebanon was attacked.

Israeli army Merkeva tanks on the Golan Heights

Syria first reported the incident on the day, saying its air defences had engaged five Israeli planes, but did not say what their target was. Israel remained uncharacteristically silent, pointedly refusing to deny that its warplanes were involved in an operation. The closest it came to acknowledging the affair happened was when it made an undertaking to Turkey to investigate how an Israeli long-range fuel tank was dropped on Turkish territory near the Syrian border.

Another theory gaining ground yesterday was that Israel was deliberately attacking the Russian-made Pantsyr air defence system recently bought by Damascus. The sale includes provision for the Pantsyr system to be shipped on to Iran and it is possible the Israeli attack was co-ordinated with America to probe the effectiveness of the system. It is believed that Iran would use the Pantsyr system to defend its nuclear facilities.

Syria has sought to keep the incident in the public arena, saying yesterday that it had complained formally to the United Nations, accusing Israel of unjustified aggression.

Syria and Israel have fought major wars on three occasions, in 1948, 1967 and 1973, as well as numerous other skirmishes. The two nations remain formally at war although an uneasy calm has largely held for the past three decades. Meanwhile, Israel was contemplating a retaliatory strike on Gaza last night after a Palestinian qassam rocket injured 69 of its soldiers, five seriously, at the Zikim army base. Many of the Israelis were hit by shrapnel as they slept under canvas.

While the rocket was fired by members of the Islamic Jihad party, Israel said it would hold Hamas accountable because the group is the main authority in the Gaza strip since it drove out its Fatah rivals in June.

The Israeli prime minister, Ehud Olmert, convened an emergency meeting yesterday with military and security commanders to discuss a response to the attack.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hezbollah; iran; israel; lebanon; strike; syria; us
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To: blam

God bless the Israelis. Surrounded by enemies in every border and Israel dishes out uncommon valor that is much needed in these times.


101 posted on 09/12/2007 3:44:25 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: blam

Now... finish the job, and move on to Iran.


102 posted on 09/12/2007 3:50:30 PM PDT by seanrobins (http://www.seanrobins.com)
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To: keat
“I dont think Mr. Paulestinan means “Israel is capable of defending itself without any assistance.” I think he means “Israel can go to hell because I’m a spineless moron.”

That was my take on his comments as well.
LOL @ “Mr Paulestine”

103 posted on 09/12/2007 4:32:50 PM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: blam; Quix

The ball is now in Syria’s court. Wonder what will happen next.


104 posted on 09/12/2007 4:33:17 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: El Gato
“Is it too much to hope they got Kucinich?”

From your mouth to Gods ears~

105 posted on 09/12/2007 4:33:40 PM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: redgolum

I don’t know what will happen next.

I’m absolsutely, certain, however, that prayer will have a huge part to play in whatever that is.


106 posted on 09/12/2007 4:52:54 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: lonevoice

Ah, so the airstrike was confirmed.


107 posted on 09/12/2007 5:03:48 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: JewishRighter
I hope Israel takes out the depots that have the WMDs formerly known as Saddam’s.

Interesting implications in that. If Israel were to strike NBC dump sites, would that release clouds of N, B or C or a nice mix? If it did, would that be an "Aha" moment or as I fear, the world will condemn Israel? In other words, they will say, Israel bombed Syria with NBC's and that accounts for the release of toxins. So, is it somehow incumbent on Israel to capture the sites or at least to raid them and document what's there before any bombing? Frankly, I don't give a hoot for world opinion, but when it comes to NBC material being released, Israel really needs to be sure they can't get blamed.


I have to commend you for using the accurate military term "NBC" (nuclear, biological, and chemical), rather that the vague, mass media, political term WMD (weapon of mass destruction). As to your alternatives, I suggest that Israel go for broke and announce they are bombing suspected WMD sites, and let the NBC chips fall where they may.

As a JewishRighter, you receive a commendation with stars.

108 posted on 09/12/2007 5:16:56 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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To: ChessExpert

All I know is, the Bible says Damascus will be uninhabital. I think that means forever.

I just know I won’t be going there or making any investiments. :)


109 posted on 09/12/2007 7:16:03 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: blam

Good for Israel!


110 posted on 09/12/2007 7:19:44 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Letitring

Oh, and BTW, GOOOOOOOOOOOO Baby. :)

I pray for the peace of Jerusalem!


111 posted on 09/12/2007 7:20:31 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: Nav_Mom
I thought the most critical comment Mr. Paul had was the fact that Americans and/or Mr. O Reilly did not know and/or care about history. This is a fact and will be our downfall.

I read these threads and wonder if there are any Freepers born between 1930 and 1965 and not carrying an agenda. Agenda-less persons between the age of 42 and 77 should be more informed than most participants on these threads. It would be in every persons best interest to get a copy of the new book "The Israel Lobby" by Mearsheimer and Walt. It came out Monday or Tuesday and is a very informed view of the situation.

112 posted on 09/12/2007 7:59:33 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity

I haven’t read the book. Thank you for your endorsement.

Much to my dismay, I can tell you, most high schoolers can’t tell you where Kansas is. I say MOST, perhaps unfairly, because I took a poll, much like our media does, and asked 5-10 teenagers in NYC where they thought Kansas was located. They said IRAQ. Believe it or not. :)


113 posted on 09/12/2007 8:15:10 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: DoughtyOne

If only they will take off the gloves and fight to win. Forget what the world MSM says, those who hate them can’t hate them any more than they already hate them.


114 posted on 09/12/2007 8:20:05 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Letitring

I really think the best way to deal with the (in their own minds) is with their sponsors. Boycott what they are selling and tell them so. If it’s true, it’s all about money, then make them pay for the garbage they sell to the world about us.

Because our media promotes Brittney Spears, et al, the entire world thinks that’s what WE care about. I don’t spend one moment thinking about OR buying anything Hollywood promotes or produces. IF we’d STOP buying, THEY would listen!


115 posted on 09/12/2007 8:21:16 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: wildbill

Unfortunatly, for those not in the know, Google Earth satalite photos can be anywhere from several days to many years old. Many of there photos are simply in the public domain now, and of know real use to any one for comercial use.

Thats why many images are very low resolution, there of no real use to anyone so know private party is going to pay for hires photos.

The fact that photos of the Steve Fosset posible crash area are new is because someone had an interest and I’m quite sure they were not cheap.


116 posted on 09/12/2007 8:32:27 PM PDT by qman
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To: tiki

Exactly...


117 posted on 09/12/2007 11:15:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: blam

For those that care, the Pantsyr-S1 system (also known as the SA-22) is actually kind of interesting. It’s a self contained low-altitude specialized air defense system/area defense system mounted on the back of a large military truck. It combines two six-packs of surface to air missiles with twin 30mm chain guns for use against air or surface targets, all guided by a radar system useful against surface and air targets. Fairly nasty little system - and they can operate in datalinked packs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsyr-S1

This thing is (at least on paper) capable of doubling as a CIWS protective system, and should theoretically be capable of shooting down incoming missiles. It may be capable of nailing a stealth fighter at close range, and it’s going to be hell on wheels for helicopters or unwary ground attack aircraft.

The bad news for it is that like most latest generation Russian SAM systems, they’ve traded range for speed again, and the missiles have a max range of about 20 kilometers or so. The limited munitions supply (12 missiles, 750 rounds per gun) means that launching a swarm of AGM-88 HARM missiles from a standoff distance (max range of 150 kilometers) will quickly saturate even a six unit network of these things. If nothing else, it will force them to fire all of their ammo to knock down the threat.

In addition, like many Russian systems, this has a hard floor of 5 meters. If your helicopter is below that, the missiles can’t “see” you.

That said, I still wouldn’t want to be within detection range of the thing. Though, interestingly, while it can *see* a B-52 at service ceiling, it can’t actually hit it - doesn’t have the altitude capability.


118 posted on 09/12/2007 11:50:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: blam
Isaiah 17

1 An oracle concerning Damascus: "See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.

Prophecy in action..... :)

119 posted on 09/13/2007 4:03:11 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Letitring
asked 5-10 teenagers in NYC where they thought Kansas was located. They said IRAQ. Believe it or not. :)

They are wrong of course, it's "Somewhere Over the Rainbow". Toto told me.

120 posted on 09/13/2007 5:25:28 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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