One word for the Nazi scum, "Dresden."
Posted on 09/13/2007 11:00:50 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
Racist Beating in Germany Alarms Jews
by Gil Ronen
(IsraelNN.com) Anti-Semitic chants against the Maccabi soccer team and a severe mob attack on Indian immigrants in eastern Germany have local Jews up in arms about racism in the country.
At a summer festival Saturday night, a group of about 50 Germans, some shouting neo-Nazi slogans, chased eight Indians through the streets of the town of Muegeln and broke down the door of a pizzeria where they had sought refuge. Three of the Indians, residents of Muegeln or other towns in the region, were so brutally beaten they needed hospital treatment, according to European Jewish Press.
The general secretary of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, Stephan Kramer, said the government had not managed to stop right-wing extremists from creating "no-go areas" for foreigners in the east. "Officials make the same statements every time (there is an attack on foreigners) but there is never a noticeable change in the strategy to fight xenophobia," Kraemer told the online news service Netzeitung.
"Subway to Auschwitz" In Berlin, meanwhile, an anti-Semitic incident in the amateur soccer league has led to a prolonged crisis and court action by Jewish soccer club Maccabi TuS.
The affair began in September 2006, when home-team fans of Altglienicke II chanted "Death to the Jews," "synagogues must burn," and "we're building a subway line to Auschwitz" during a game against its 8th division B-level opponents, Maccabi TuS. No one tried to stop the anti-Semitic catcalls, according to media reports.
Maccabi captain Vernen Liebermann was ejected after criticizing the referee for not intervening. Lieberman then pulled his team off the field and the game was suspended. Maccabi board president Tuvia Schlesinger called it the "worst thing that has happened to a Jewish club since the Hitler dictatorship in Germany," and then turned to the local sport court.
The court reprimanded the Altglienicke team and its directors and required the players to attend an anti-racism seminar. It also ordered that the game be replayed in a neutral stadium.
From this point onwards things got complicated. A JTA report explains that Maccabi turned to the sports court again after the rematch, claiming Altglienicke had bent the rules. The court decided in favor of Maccabi at first, and gave it bonus points that allowed it to advance to a higher league, the A League, but then reversed its decision when Altglienicke appealed. Maccabi would have none of it and became the first sports club to go outside the sports court for a resolution.
Dirty laundry On August 10 the Berlin District Court determined that the sports court had made procedural errors and issued a temporary injunction allowing the Maccabi team to advance to the A League. The Berlin Soccer Association said it would fight the injunction.
Maccabi, meanwhile, has been coming under fire for taking the league's dirty laundry outside the sports court. A Bavarian soccer official said the club's action was a sign of "the bankruptcy of amateur soccer."
Maccabi's Schlesinger said that the sports court had made so many procedural errors, that he had no choice but to go around it. "Are we being treated this way," he asked, "because we are an association with Jewish roots?"
Maccabi's predecessor club, Bar Kochba Berlin, was created in 1898 and by 1930 was one of the largest Jewish organizations in the world, with over 40,000 members. In 1929 Bar Kochba merged with Hakoah Berlin, a successful soccer club, to form the sports club Bar Kochba-Hakoah.
By 1933, with the Nazis in power, Jewish teams were excluded from competition with non-Jewish teams. In 1938 Jewish teams were banned outright.
After World War II, Jewish sports and cultural associations eventually re-emerged in Germany. In 1970 TuS Maccabi Berlin was formed out of the merger of Bar-Kochba, Hakoah and Maccabi Berlin. Today the club has some 500 members and is one of the largest Maccabi associations in the country.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123466
'YOU JEWISH PIG' Severe Anti-Semitism Hits Youth Football in Germany By Heike Baldauf
They were two teams of 14-year-olds. But that didn't seem to matter. Right-wing fans rained anti-Semitic and racist insults down on a youth-league game in Eastern Germany last month. Police are investigating, but it's far from an isolated incident.
The Ascension Day holiday was to be a big day for the football community in Wurzen, a small town of 15,000 near Leipzig in former Communist-ruled East Germany. The local junior league had a match scheduled with a team from the industrial city of Chemnitz, formerly known as Karl-Marx-Stadt and located near the Czech border.
A number of fans had found their way to the stadium and by the time the whistle blew for kick-off, they were in high spirits, swilling beer and chanting supporters' songs. The usual horde of young neo-Nazi skinheads and xenophobes were in the stands, looking for trouble.
Then the taunts began. The fans struck up a welcoming chorus for the visiting junior soccer team: "We'll build a subway from Chemnitz to Auschwitz..." You "Fiji pigs," they yelled at two 14-year-olds who were subbed in. You "foreigner pigs!" They made monkey noises every time they touched the ball. They also targeted the 14-year-old goalkeeper from the visiting team: "Jewish pig, go fuck your Jewish mother," they yelled.
'They're Making Us Look Like Such Monsters'
The crowd didn't just target the visitors. A linesman flagged an offside call, earning him a torrent of abuse including: "Get it right, Jew, or we'll come and pull your foreskin off."
Despite a number of attempts by the referees to get the crowd under control, the insults continued.
The kids from Chemnitz were not to be put off their game, eventually winning 2-0. But referee Christine Weigelt was not going to let matters rest there. From notes made during the game, she compiled a report on the anti-Semitic and racist abuse and handed it to district police chief Bernd Merbitz.
Her deputy referee Henry Lickfeldt added his protest. But some sport functionaries sided with the rabble, branding Weigelt and other accusers as liars tarnishing Wurzen's reputation. Sports Association President Heiko Wandel said Weigelt had lost control of the match: "They're making us look like monsters," he said. "We've got Vietnamese and Russians among our players. They should stop putting on such a show."
Many of the insults also came from the players on the field. Indeed, one player from the Wurzen team was barred from playing while the league looked into accusations that he had racially assaulted a Chemnitz player with a Vietnamese background. Wandel was not impressed. "That is going too far," he said. "I'll cover for him. He promised me that he didn't say anything. One is allowed to insult the Germans, but as soon as a Vietnamese is insulted, it is exaggerated."
The Vietnamese boy in question, son of a communist-era immigrant family, was given a red card just as the game was ending for shoving the player he accuses of having insulted him. "I would like too apologize for doing that," the boy said later. "But I won't put up with remarks like that." On the other side of the ball, a father of one of the Wurzel players apologized to the Chemnitz team for the insults.
Far Right Fixtures
But how could such a thing happen, and that at a children's league game? That is exactly the question that Harald Sather, chairman of the Committee of Referees in the state of Saxony is asking. "We have to get to the bottom of all this," he said. "Abuse is going too far. Foreign players deserve respect. How could this happen at a juniors' game?"
For Germany's amateur sports world, the involvement of 12- to-14-year-old kids in incidents during the game at Wurzen is a worrying new trend, while abuse by far-right fans at soccer fixtures in East Germany is a fact of life. After major disturbances in amateur football in Saxony last February, 60 matches were cancelled on a single day as a punishment.
Police have promised to press charges. But Germany's Federation of Active Soccer Fans claims no police action would have been taken had referee assistant Lickfeldt not taken the initiative to call the police. Indeed, after the game, Lickfeldt says that the referee supervisor from Wurzen said he had seen nothing out of the ordinary and warned the referees against filing a report. He also says that the Wurzen trainer told him: "If you write something, then play it down. The German Football Association has their eyes out for such things."
Martin Endemann from the fans' association says that is what normally happens. "Referees often look the other way in such situations in order not to have any trouble. We have seen this again and again over the years." His group, based in Hanau in Western Germany, is running a campaign against intolerance and xenophobia in the country's football stands.
Wurzen -- which has 1,700 unemployed among its 15,000 residents and is famed for a cookie factory, the poet Joachim Ringelnatz and a mail-order firm specializing in far-right music and clothes -- was put on the map by its neo-Nazis and anti-Semites after communism collapsed in 1989. Skinheads and hard-right thugs chased Portuguese workers through the streets and attacked a hostel for asylum-seekers in the 1990s.
Wurzen's mayor Jürgen Schmidt, a member of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic party (CDU), is keeping silent about the Ascension Day soccer match. He happens to be vice-president of the Wurzen club and shares a council administration table with local functionaries of the far-right NPD party.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,486165,00.html
Hatred is a powerful motivator in politics. The democrats have not yet learned its true power....but they're learning.
“Wurzen — which has 1,700 unemployed among its 15,000 residents and is famed for a cookie factory, the poet Joachim Ringelnatz and a mail-order firm specializing in far-right music and clothes — was put on the map by its neo-Nazis and anti-Semites after communism collapsed in 1989.”
I think they forgot its greatest claim to fame—it’s the birthplace of the guy who invented Ty-D-Bol.
I just love how they call National Socialists “far right”, don’t you? That said, these Nazi thugs should get the book thrown at them.
Kind of makes our out of control Little League ‘parents’ seem tame by comparison.
“Hatred is a powerful motivator in politics.”
No one in the world can play the politics of hatred like the Germans.
East Germany = former Communist area = not really “right wingers” .
One word for the Nazi scum, "Dresden."
Its not simply about East Germany, according to this writer....
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=1082
I don't hear much complaint when it's Dutch vs. muslims and that's the same dynamic at work here.
The younger Europeans are sick of seeing their birthrights given away to foreigners and they are utterly unable to voice their opinions via the mainstream (and politically correct) parties so they end up, by default, aligning with radical groups that welcome them with open arms.
And it's not as if this hasn't happened before in Europe, is it?
Hitle and his SS were the Nazi!
You are a little confused bud that is where the Christians lived they were not Nazi or SS!
I don't know who you are you could be in that group for all I know???
Maybe you are young and don't know better!
Thats the famous Islamic rage “boy” of Kashmir, Shaqeel Bhat. The photoshoping of the face is my creation.
BTW what your reason for the personal attack?
When will these people ever wake up? Frank
German politician pushes euthanasia machine
Hamburg, Sep. 13, 2007 (CWNews.com) - A former justice minister in the German state of Hamburg has designed a euthanasia machine.
“With the touch of a button, death comes quickly,” explains Dr. Roger Kusch as he introduced his invention. Kusch, who was expelled from the Christian Democrat Party in 2006, said that the green metal box will be made available for hospices, senior-citizen homes, and hospitals by the beginning of next year.
Kusch has formed a political organization with the goal of seeking legalization of euthanasia in Hamburg. The Dr. Roger Kusch Aid in Dying Association hopes to collect 10,000 signatures over the next six months to trigger a statewide referendum on the subject.
One member of parliament, Michael Naumann of the Social Democratic Party of Germany characterized the Kusch initiative as “disgusting and immoral,” and said Kusch himself is “a walking scandal!” The leader of Hamburg’s Christian Democrat Party, Dirk Fischer, agreed: “This man is morally degenerate.”
I found the photo offensive don’t you?
Why would you hold on to it?
You mean the attacks on other races? Of course not. Compared to 6 million Jews, this is really peanuts.
“symptom of young Germans resenting that they are expected to continue reparations for a Holocaust that they had nothing to do with “
You mean since they had nothing to do with the holocaust, they do what they are doing? That is join Nazis once again and beat up other races.
Americans resent being castigated all the time for the massacre of native Americans and slavery of Blacks. Indians resent being castigated all the time for “castism”. Japanese resent being castigated all the time for the rape of Nanking and use of Korean comfort women. So what should the response be in all the above cases? Beat up foreigners and racial minorities?
“they’re also fed up with politically correct notions about muslim and other foreign immigrants into Germany. “
There are 50,000 odd Indians in Germany, the Goa state in India has more White Europeans and Israelis then that and there has never been any incident of racial attacks on foreigners save for the odd theft or robbery.
Germanys problems are Germany’s own making. it is said the Germans dont want foreigners in their country. Ok fine but there are many more White skinned foreigners in Germany counting Europeans, Americans, Australians, Canadians Russians and Turks then there are brown or black skinned foreigners. The ire is almost always vented at those foreigners with colored skin. To me its not Xenophobia but clear case of racial attack. What they dont want is certain coloured races to enter their society. Even their Muslim population are fair skinned Turks or Kurds which makes them more acceptable then say dark skinned Bangladeshis or African Muslims. It has more to do with the mind set. The Nazi mentality hasnt completely gone yet.
“they are utterly unable to voice their opinions via the mainstream (and politically correct) parties so they end up”
Thats an exaggeration. They were not so muted while screaming “kinder nicht Inder” when they desperately needed Indians for their tech job to pull them out of economic mess a decade ago.
“I found the photo offensive don’t you?”
I found nothing offensive rather funny. “Rage boy” has assumed commical proportions among bloggers and freepers. There are funny bumper stickers and t-shirts available with his photo. I suppose you havent checked out the hilariously funny “rage boy” threads on FR.
If you found it “offensive” then perhaps you should join the “rage boy” in his protests. The rage boy finds something offensive everyday worth protesting about.
This has the effect of driving what should be a public discussion into the backrooms and into the quiet corners where the Nazi mentality you speak of hides and flourishes in the darkness.
Further, Germans have a collective memory and the ongoing reparations to Israel now sixty-two years after the end of the war and the Holocaust echoes the demands of Versailles - and the invasion of Germany by the Belgians and the French in 1922.
In sum, what I'm pointing out is that the same conditions that had to be in place for the Nazi Party to rise in the 1930's do, in some respect, exist again all these years later.
Deal with those problems, allow people to speak their minds without fear of prosecution, and you'll alleviate a lot of the pressure that created this recent attack. Naturally, there will always be haters wherever you go, but we can at least deny them the playing field they need to spread their hate.
It should be noted that an immigrant from Nigeria was elected this week as the mayor of a town in Ireland and the comments about him on one Irish forum were that the man loves and understands Ireland more than many Irish do.
Were these immigrants to the Netherlands, France, or Germany interested in assimilating I doubt there'd be much problem. Too bad that's not what all of them want to do.
Anti-semitism hasn’t died in Germany, the target of hatred was just directed to others, Americans, Polish, and many other foreigners, and now expanded to Jews once again.
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