Posted on 09/13/2007 1:51:55 PM PDT by Jay777
When Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was strapped down to the water-board, he felt humiliated -- not by the treatment but by the fact that a woman, a red-headed CIA supervisor, was allowed to witness the spectacle, a former intelligence officer told ABC News.
The al Qaeda mastermind, known as KSM, stubbornly held out for about two minutes -- far longer than any of the other "high-value" terror targets who were subjected to the technique, the harshest from a list of six techniques approved for use by the CIA and Bush administration lawyers, sources said.
Then KSM started talking, in idiomatic English he learned as a high school foreign exchange student and polished at a North Carolina college in the 1980s, sources said.
"It was an extraordinary amount of time for him to hold out," one former CIA officer told ABCNews.com. "A red-headed female supervisor was in the room when he was being water-boarded. It was humiliating to him. So he held out."
"Then he started talking, and he never stopped," this former officer said. KSM was never water-boarded again, and in hours and hours of conversation with his interrogators, often over a cup of tea, he poured out his soul and the murderous deeds he committed.
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Why has he not been executed?.........
i’ve often wondered about boarding. why is it so effective?
The article makes it sound like he was embarrassed to show a sign of weakness in front of the woman, and thus resisted the “non-torture but still pretty coercive and scary” interrogation technique.
Drowning is not a good way to die.
It’s that pesky breathing thing, the thought of inhaling
water is just too much.
‘Cuz you can’t BREATHE!
It simulates drowning without the threat of actually dying, but you’re convinced that you *are* drowning, thus the terror factor is high.
“Why is it so effective?”
From Wikipedia:
The waterboarding technique, characterized in 2005 by former CIA director Porter J. Goss as a “professional interrogation technique,”[12] is described as follows by journalist Julia Layton:
Water boarding as it is currently described involves strapping a person to an inclined board, with his feet raised and his head lowered. The interrogators bind the person’s arms and legs so he can’t move at all, and they cover his face. In some descriptions, the person is gagged, and some sort of cloth covers his nose and mouth; in others, his face is wrapped in cellophane. The interrogator then repeatedly pours water onto the person’s face. Depending on the exact setup, the water may or may not actually get into the person’s mouth and nose; but the physical experience of being underneath a wave of water seems to be secondary to the psychological experience. The person’s mind believes he is drowning, and his gag reflex kicks in as if he were choking on all that water falling on his face.[13]
CIA officers who subject themselves to the technique last an average of 14 seconds before caving in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
Bears repeating.
interesting, thanks.
>> Wait, did the female officer make it easier to crack him, or harder.
Harder: it made him hold out longer, because he was humiliated by the presence of the little red haired girl.
Let’s add it up... he suffered more waterboarding than might have been necessary, PLUS he was humiliated (I guess that’s a big deal for an Islamonazi), AND we got the information we wanted.
It’s a win-win, baby! Thanks, Red! You go, girl!
Who has time? - lives are on the line and time is of the essence.
Its as close as you will get to drowning..
Ramsi Binalsaheb(sp) last only 30 seconds....he cried like a baby.
“not by the treatment but by the fact that a woman, a red-headed CIA supervisor, was allowed to witness the spectacle”
Knowing how your enemy thinks is an invaluable tool.
I am sure they intended to send us an engraved invitation to view the demolition of the Towers and the death of its occupants but their order from Tiffany was undoubtedly lost in the mail. War is hell - killing American citizens is worse. We can tell our children to play nice but this is no child’s game. Reports need to stay out of it.
“The article makes it sound like he was embarrassed to show a sign of weakness in front of the woman, and thus resisted the “non-torture but still pretty coercive and scary” interrogation technique.”
This was one of the problems Israel ran into in 47 (48?) in combat, and one reason why they pulled the women out of the combats units afterward.
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