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THE MORTGAGE CRISIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ABUSE BUT CRIME
Americans For Debt Relief ^ | 09/12/2007 | Danny Schechter

Posted on 09/14/2007 9:16:11 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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1 posted on 09/14/2007 9:16:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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This article is kind of a dog’s breakfast.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 9:20:57 AM PDT by ikka
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the number of people suckered into subprime loans

Just a nation of victims, we are.

Even if you're illiterate and don't understand the meaning of the word "adjustible", all you have to remember is the folksy aphorism "If something seems too good to be true, it usually is."

3 posted on 09/14/2007 9:22:03 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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It’s not so hard to get a handle on the story. Start with some of the disgruntled employees of those mortgage companies who were just dumped from some of the best paying jobs in their lives

Great idea. After all, they are guaranteed to be completely impartial and have absolutely no motivation to lie to get back at their former employers.

Let's face facts: plenty of people borrowed more money than they should have and plenty of banks lent unworthy creditors more money than they should have.

This isn't criminal activity - this is simply a large group of people getting carried away and making poor financial decisions.

4 posted on 09/14/2007 9:22:18 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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And the heart of all greediness is Wall Street, of course.

You can stop reading right here.

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5 posted on 09/14/2007 9:25:30 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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Additionally, the subprime "crisis" has nothing to do with the cases of Milken (not "Milliken") or Kozlowski (not "Kazlowski").

Milken got in trouble for selling high yield bonds too profitably. I wish I was joking, but that is literally what happened. He sold bonds to buyers who were not forced to buy them and who freely agreed to pay the selling price.

Kozlowski stole money from the company of which he was CEO.

What Milken's shrewd trading and Kozlowski's theft have to to do with subprime mortgages, I have no idea.

6 posted on 09/14/2007 9:27:25 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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I’m not up to speed on derivatives but understand they could present a serious problem in our financial system.


7 posted on 09/14/2007 9:27:30 AM PDT by vietvet67
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By buying in bulk various mortgage loans, Wall Street could take the role (and the lions share of the profits) of the bank without the inconvenience of opening branches. Banks, in turn, could keep lending endlessly, just as long as they kept refilling the pot by selling off the old loans and lending anew.

The suthor of this article has no idea what he's talking about. The first major mortgage bonds (collateralized mortgage obligations, or CMOs) were developed back in the 1980s to address a basic inefficiency in our nation's banking system -- i.e., the imbalance between banks in older regions like the Northeast and Rust Belt that had a lot of cash but were underwriting fewer mortgages and banks in fast-growing regions like the Southeast and West that had small cash reserves but a lot of demand for new mortgages.

8 posted on 09/14/2007 9:30:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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This article is indeed full of hilarious stuff.

A Real Estate expert explained this to me this way:

“Not too many years ago, if you borrowed money to buy a house or a car, you visited your local bank. Assuming you were approved, the money came from your bank and the follow-up (the “servicing”) was handled by that same bank. If you had a problem, you knew who you could speak with and where to find him or her. The system worked pretty well. But only greed could cause a seemingly good system to go awry. And the heart of all greediness is Wall Street, of course.

Realizing that these loans were a good investment for the banks, Wall Street decided to figure out how to take a piece of the pie.

Translation: this unnamed "real estate expert" is angry because real estate lending was once a largely-closed shop with little competition. He enjoyed having a near-monopoly in which customers had few choices in borrowing. He loved selling 15% mortgages back in the 1970s.

Then evil Wall Street types got involved, confused consumers with all these different options, and the fat mortgage margins he enjoyed fell as consumers were deceived into paying only 6 or 7 or 8% on their mortgage instead of twice as much.

9 posted on 09/14/2007 9:34:31 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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I’m not up to speed on derivatives but understand they could present a serious problem in our financial system.

I'm fully up to speed on them and know for a fact that they present no problems to our financial system whatsoever, and have actually been instrumental time and time again in solving many potential problems with our financial system.

10 posted on 09/14/2007 9:36:14 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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My take is that this article would be about Free Silver or some other populist crap if published 100 years ago.


11 posted on 09/14/2007 9:39:49 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Is the author Danny Schechter your “News Dissector” from the old WBCN-FM In Boston, MA?


12 posted on 09/14/2007 9:45:24 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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My take is that this article would be about Free Silver or some other populist crap if published 100 years ago.

LOL! Very astute observation. You win the Henry George prize.

13 posted on 09/14/2007 9:47:05 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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You both appear to know more in your gut than most people posting here on FR. Mortgage scams, mortgage servicing scams, and illegal foreclosures are all interlinked. Watch the great DVD “In Debt We Trust.” If you really want to learn something about the lending industry and credit card industry. Most people just want to stay blissfully ignorant.


14 posted on 09/14/2007 9:48:20 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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A good post and a good tagline.


15 posted on 09/14/2007 9:53:10 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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This is my favorite part:

I was not in default and had all the documents to prove it. After one year of the mortgage company’s refusal to correct their accounting errors, I was forced to file a law suit to protect my home from an illegal foreclosure.

For the next seven (7) years (costing me more than $2 million in legal expenses and lost wages), I watched the court[s] repeatedly grant judgments in favor of the mortgage companies. These errant judgments were granted without either mortgage company presenting a scintilla of evidence to support their allegations and in stark contrast to my preponderance of evidence and material facts."

He spent $2 MILLION in legal fees? How much was his house worth? And if the courts truly ignored his mortgage payment receipts, he should have hired better lawyers. There's something more to this case than one man being abused by "the system."

16 posted on 09/14/2007 9:56:12 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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Jim Sinclair of JSMineset has been ranting about these derivatives for some time now.

http://www.gata.org/node/5461


17 posted on 09/14/2007 9:56:56 AM PDT by vietvet67
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If you really want to learn something about the lending industry and credit card industry. Most people just want to stay blissfully ignorant.

Most people should simply read before signing, and not borrow beyond their means. (My two cents worth.) Maybe they should start teaching basic finance in the public skrool system.

18 posted on 09/14/2007 9:59:00 AM PDT by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: wideawake
I'm fully up to speed on them and know for a fact that they present no problems to our financial system whatsoever, and have actually been instrumental time and time again in solving many potential problems with our financial system.

That may be true, but they sure sound scary. :)

There are surely people taking losses on derivatives right now, but that's part of the deal. They have allowed our markets to act much more efficiently and are part of the reason interest rates have been so low for so long.
19 posted on 09/14/2007 10:01:22 AM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: wideawake

Great post. The packaging of mortgages has pushed borrowing costs down for borrowers, which is a good thing. Was subprime crap packaged and sold? Absolutely, but that doesn’t mean such packaging is inherently bad.

Reading columns like this just reinforces my opinion that most “journalists” can’t be trusted to either understand the issue they are writing about or to give an accurate assessment if they do understand.


20 posted on 09/14/2007 10:04:38 AM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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