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Rigging a study to make conservatives look stupid.
Slate ^ | Sept. 14, 2007 | William Saletan

Posted on 09/14/2007 1:29:14 PM PDT by neverdem

Are liberals smarter than conservatives?

It looks that way, according to a study published this week in Nature Neuroscience. In a rapid response test—you press a button if you're given one signal, but not if you're given a different signal—the authors found that conservatives were "more likely to make errors of commission," whereas "stronger liberalism was correlated with greater accuracy." They concluded that "a more conservative orientation is related to greater persistence in a habitual response pattern, despite signals that this response pattern should change."

Does this mean liberal brains are fitter? Apparently. "Liberals are more responsive to informational complexity, ambiguity and novelty," the authors wrote. New York University, which helped fund the study, concluded, "Liberals are more likely than are conservatives to respond to cues signaling the need to change habitual responses." The study's lead author, NYU professor David Amodio, told London's Daily Telegraph that "liberals tended to be more sensitive and responsive to information that might conflict with their habitual way of thinking."

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; conservatism; conservatives; liberalism; liberals; psychobabble; psychology
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To: Brilliant
See article in todays WSJ by Robert Holtz, “Most Science Studies Appear Tainted By Sloppy Analysis”. Basically researchers are manipulating the data to meet their preconceived opinions. The supposed peer review is more of the same.
21 posted on 09/14/2007 1:42:12 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: donna

DING, DING, DING!!!!!! We have a winner!


22 posted on 09/14/2007 1:42:16 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Always Right
Liberals were all driving hybrid cars

Actually, they're telling US to drive hybrids while they do as they please.

23 posted on 09/14/2007 1:42:31 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: neverdem

The whole basis for prejudice, bias and ignorance are these pseudo-scientific generalizations to justify them.

Of course “liberals” are so much smarter than everybody else — and why they should do the thinking for everybody else and tell everybody else what to do. That is their “divine right” as kings or God wouldn’t have created them smarter than everybody else — and made them entitled to more money, power and status than everybody else.

And they’re so democratic too.


24 posted on 09/14/2007 1:42:46 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: neverdem
Good article. Salatan's a liberal, but like his colleague Mickey Kaus, he lets the chips fall where they may and is fair more often than not.

Any study done among college students isn't likely to accurately explain adult behaviors. Also, I don't know if they adequately account for the demographics: if more college women consider themselves liberal and more college men are conservatives, that in itself is going to skew the results.

25 posted on 09/14/2007 1:43:20 PM PDT by x
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To: FreedomCalls

26 posted on 09/14/2007 1:44:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (Snow above 2000')
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To: neverdem

“There is terror in numbers,” writes Darrell Huff in How to Lie with Statistics. And nowhere does this terror translate to blind acceptance of authority more than in the slippery world of averages, correlations, graphs, and trends. Huff sought to break through “the daze that follows the collision of statistics with the human mind” with this slim volume, first published in 1954. The book remains relevant as a wake-up call for people unaccustomed to examining the endless flow of numbers pouring from Wall Street, Madison Avenue, and everywhere else someone has an axe to grind, a point to prove, or a product to sell. “The secret language of statistics, so appealing in a fact-minded culture, is employed to sensationalize, inflate, confuse, and oversimplify,” warns Huff.
Although many of the examples used in the book are charmingly dated, the cautions are timeless. Statistics are rife with opportunities for misuse, from “gee-whiz graphs” that add nonexistent drama to trends, to “results” detached from their method and meaning, to statistics’ ultimate bugaboo—faulty cause-and-effect reasoning. Huff’s tone is tolerant and amused, but no-nonsense. Like a lecturing father, he expects you to learn something useful from the book, and start applying it every day. Never be a sucker again, he cries!

Even if you can’t find a source of demonstrable bias, allow yourself some degree of skepticism about the results as long as there is a possibility of bias somewhere. There always is.
Read How to Lie with Statistics. Whether you encounter statistics at work, at school, or in advertising, you’ll remember its simple lessons. Don’t be terrorized by numbers, Huff implores. “The fact is that, despite its mathematical base, statistics is as much an art as it is a science.” —Therese Littleton


27 posted on 09/14/2007 1:44:46 PM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
All I know is that our spelling, punctuation, and grammar beats the norm found at DU!

And our vocabulary is larger than the repetitive 4 letter words that fill their posts as well

28 posted on 09/14/2007 1:45:13 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: donna

I was thinking more along the lines that liberals are knee jerk and don’t think about things. Whereas a conservative will give something due consideration before making a decision.


29 posted on 09/14/2007 1:45:17 PM PDT by misharu (US Congress = children without adult supervision)
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To: Brilliant
I wonder how they know who’s conservative and who’s liberal?

The liberals were the PhDs and the conservatives were the cleaning people.

30 posted on 09/14/2007 1:45:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Brilliant
"I wonder how they know who’s conservative and who’s liberal?"

We conservative men sport a larger "package" and have to shave once a day. Lib men only need to shave the fuzz about once per weak and have no evident "package" to the casual observer.

As for the women, that's easy... conservative women are hot and lib-chix sport under arm hair.

31 posted on 09/14/2007 1:45:26 PM PDT by avacado
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To: neverdem

>Are liberals smarter than conservatives?<

Liberals are more devious than conservatives. Unprincipled people may call that smart. I call it dishonest.


32 posted on 09/14/2007 1:46:08 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: MikeHu
And they’re so democratic too.

Kinda like the 'Democratic People's Republic of Korea' (ie. Kim Jong-il's paradise on the 38th parallel).

33 posted on 09/14/2007 1:46:39 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: neverdem; Brilliant; donna; Always Right; bolobaby; Revolting cat!; notpoliticallycorewrecked; ...
Political scientists and psychologists have noted that, on average, conservatives show more structured and persistent cognitive styles, whereas liberals are more responsive to informational complexity, ambiguity and novelty.

What this tells me is that if you want a bridge built, get a conservative to do it. Oh, liberals can build a bridge, but they will get it sorta kinda maybe right.

34 posted on 09/14/2007 1:47:33 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: neverdem
So how come liberals can’t understand the simple concept that lowering taxes shrinks the deficit?
35 posted on 09/14/2007 1:48:36 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: avacado
"Lib men only need to shave the fuzz about once per weak and have no evident "package" to the casual observer."

And they get easily confused about which part of the body they shave the fuzz from.

36 posted on 09/14/2007 1:48:59 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: neverdem
"Liberals are more responsive to informational complexity, ambiguity and novelty

means if your information is complex, ambiguous, and new, the liberal will believe it without question...

37 posted on 09/14/2007 1:49:54 PM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: FreedomCalls

So I read the slate.com article - something I rarely do.

They take from whether you push the button correctly quickly or not that Liberals are smart and Conservatives are dumb -

This study is informative - it explains why liberals believe in Global warming so easily, and don’t understand a thing called the “Scientific Method.”

Got it!


38 posted on 09/14/2007 1:50:16 PM PDT by fremont_steve (Milpitas - a great place to be FROM!)
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To: neverdem
liberals tended to be more sensitive and responsive to information that might conflict with their habitual way of thinking."

Or, if the collectivists sense that the herd might be changing direction, they're quick to fall in line.

39 posted on 09/14/2007 1:50:33 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: neverdem
In a rapid response test—you press a button if you're given one signal, but not if you're given a different signal—the authors found that conservatives were "more likely to make errors of commission," whereas "stronger liberalism was correlated with greater accuracy."

If they controlled for average lifetime video game usage they would have a different result,

40 posted on 09/14/2007 1:52:44 PM PDT by Raycpa
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