Posted on 09/16/2007 10:13:37 AM PDT by wagglebee
In the first longitudinal, peer-reviewed, scientific study of its kind, researchers have concluded some homosexuals can change their "orientation" through religiously mediated guidance.
Researchers Stanton L. Jones and Mark A. Yarhouse released the results Thursday of a three-year study during an address at the American Association of Christian Counselors World Conference.
Their conclusions contradict the claims of the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association, which contend such change in sexual orientation is impossible and attempting to pursue it likely will cause depression, anxiety or self-destructive behavior.
The new study concluded such changes do not cause psychological harm to the patient.
Nicholas A. Cummings, former American Psychological Association president, praised the research.
"This study has broken new ground in its adherence to objectivity and a scientific precision that can be replicated and expanded, and it opens new horizons for investigation," he said.
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"This study has broken new ground in its adherence to objectivity and a scientific precision that can be replicated and expanded, and it opens new horizons for investigation," he said.
That is very encouraging news.
Engaging in homosexual acts is a type of behavior. If one doesn't engage in homosexual acts, it makes little sense to call them a "homosexual".
People who insist that homosexuals "can't change" seem to be calling homosexuals animals, who are not capable of changing their behavior.
OK,gays can change.But why would you WANT to change,honey?
Seriously,it seems to me that most gays are pretty happy with their situation,incredible as it is to me that one would want to wake up in the morning staring at a pair of hairy testacles!
Even with all this pushing of the gay agenda in the schools,very few kids are going to bend over for Billy unless they were going to do it anyway.The whole thought is just too plain disgusting to contemplate.
What difference does it make how a homosexual compulsion originates? The basis for antipathy to homosexual behavior is that it is clearly and explicitly forbidden by scripture and tradition.
For that source of authority, how the behavior comes about is of no importance.
I am "oriented" towards adultery. That I do not act on my orientation is a choice, one which is usually easy but, as all men know, is not always easy.
Because God made me to desire beautiful women, and because eradicating that desire with some type of "therapy" seems Orwellian and bizarre, I suppose I just have to live with it.
Why is this different from what homosexuals must do?
There is no need to fear the so-called homosexual agenda. Homosexuals are not a danger to us.
What about RINO’s?
I’m with you. This whole thing is a waste of time.
I’m just glad to see that both sides can make s—t up. It’s not fair when only one group does it.
If you want your data taken seriously you shouldn’t announce it in the World Nut Daily.
Is it posted in the chemtrails section?
I World Net Daily credible now? I can’t keep up.
That's another good point. WingNutDaily and NewsHacks are questionable news sources to say the least.
People don’t choose to be gay.
I don’t have children and am unfamiliar with what is being taught.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070913/pl_usnw/truth_wins_out_urges_skepticism_of_new__ex_gay__sham_study_released_today_by_right_wing_therapists
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070915/29318_Ex-Gay_Study:_’Conversion’_is_Possible.htm
http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=26429
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/controversial.study.is.change.possible.for.homosexuals/13089.htm
Let me know when the change occurs. If it can be proven that a change, did indeed occur, perhaps we can talk.
“Homosexuals are not a danger to us.”
They certainly are, when they use their sexual orientation as a basis for political change. They certainly are, when they break down the barriers of appropriate sexual behavior and encourage an “if it feels good, do it” mentality. They certainly are, when they spread serious and fatal illnesses. They certainly are, when they try to infiltrate churches, schools, and society at large with a “homosexual is fine” attitude. They certainly are when they post pornography, or behave pornographically, in public. I used to live in SF. I had to sit with my kids in bus shelters with ridiculous “ads” ten feet tall in our faces.
I remember gays in school and nobody had to flaunt it as the teens seem to do now. I have children from 29 yrs old to 7 yrs old & it seems each year I get more amazed at what I see. I feel bad for the ones who are teased but I also wonder why all this has to be brought into the schools.
My youngest son was harassed in his senior year by a gay guy who kept commenting about how nice his rear end was. My son didn't like it at all and he shouldn't have had to be harassed. The school did nothing about it. The gay kid knew darn well my son had a steady girlfriend and is not in the least gay but he just kept it up. When he patted his rear that was it for my son. He punched him & got suspended. My point is that if these gays don't want to get hurt they need to keep their gay-ness to themselves or people like themselves and out of the schools.
Thanks for explaining it so well. ~P~
This is encouraging. If gays can change, maybe that means that Mooslims can too. Maybe they can learn to resist their orientation to slaughter innocents and brutally oppress others, especially women.
The Red Chinese treated it successfully with electroshock therapy for years.
Inherently, no. But they are when they decide to affect our culture with theirs. When traditional families are snidely called "breeders" and the foundations our society that have endured for centuries are derided then yes, they are a danger to us. I have known and liked many gay people but it's the militant gay agenda I don't like.
Documented proof that Jesus Saves - including from the lifestyle of sin, self-destruction, and pain that is Homosexuality.
“People don’t choose to be gay.
I don’t have children and am unfamiliar with what is being taught.”
That is what they are being taught.
With no facts to back it up.
The gay activists, while vocal, are a tiny minority of the gay community. Most gays mind their own business.
Not true. Same-sex attracation is just as much a deformity as a broken leg. Sometimes a leg is broken intentionally. Sometimes messed up relationships lead to same-sex attraction.
Sure — and I just saw a pig fly over my house !
Of course this doesn’t pertain to Elton {I’m so Gay} John!
Respectfully, you could not be more wrong.
The APA’s liars; and God can change peole! Simple as that..
That's not very earth-shaking. Some of the subjects may not be telling the truth to the investigators or themselves, but it wouldn't be surprising if some people changed in orientation from homosexual to heterosexual or vice versa. Homosexuality isn't all one thing: there are people who've been that way for as long as they can remember and people who "experiment" with it, like college girls who are "lesbians until graduation."
Most gays are not radical and keep to themselves. They couldn’t care less about gay pride parades.
As for me, I’m straight, and I don’t watch TV shows or movies where the protagonist is gay. I believe in live and let live so I don’t need tolerance shoved in my face.
That is fine with me. I was in the interior design world and the show horse world and there are a lot of gays in both and many were talented and enjoyable people. What goes on with consenting adults is their business, not mine.
The activists may be a tiny minority, but they are having a devastating effect. They have pushed their notions of society on this country, and the world, ever since the Stonewall Riots, and the politicians, even mindful of getting elected, go along with their dictates, be it benefits for 'domestic partners', homosexual 'marriage', or the teaching of the 'gay agenda' in schools, even as early as Kindergarten.
Beginning in the early 80's, they used AIDS to create sympathy for themselves, even though it was clear that it was their own actions that brought that disease into their ranks. With this sympathy, they brought about the changes they wanted made, free from much opposition, because the media wouldn't brook any serious discussion on the matter, because to try to do so would be 'homophobic'. Most folks just kept their mouths shut, because they didn't want to be thought ill of by their co-workers, fellow churchgoers, or neighbors.
So that creates a situation in which, as happened in Lexington MA, when a father goes to a teacher and tells her he'd rather his Kindergarten son NOT have to listen to a book about two mommies, or two daddies, and respectfully asks that his son be allowed to go to the library or somewhere else, if that discussion is going to be held. He was arrested, and a restraining order placed on him so that he could not set foot on the school grounds, even for Parent's Night. He wasn't trying to force his beliefs on the school, or make the school change for him, he only wanted the school to accomodate his family's beliefs by exempting his son from discussions of homosexual relationships. The school wouldn't allow it.
HOLY MOLY! But you can't mention Jesus.... What was the charge against him...officially? What about freedom of speech? This is what we have to look forward to more of if Hillary - It takes a village - is elected.
I'm afraid that we live in a nation where rampant political correctness rules. There are too many sacred cows. This is not confined to homosexuality, as you know. :(
I must say though, I am a bit befuddled as to the dykons and how converted to their original preference could make any man want to date them. Maybe a liberal man. EWWWWW. Is that too mean? I just die when I see many of these gay women that look like men and act like men. It creeps me out as a woman.
At least an effeminate male has taste in dress, manners, and interior design--which accounts for a lot. LOL. :-)
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We are talkin’ “look at me an how I do sex! See! See! You need to accept, condone and be like this. Watch! Watch! Pay for my sex change and hormones throughout my lifetime. Give me a job!" THAT is absolutely unacceptable.
Some gays are that way because they choose it. Sometimes they choose it out of hate for the opposite sex. I think it is good to try to understand the origins of homosexuality. I’ve always believed in trying to find the truth, no matter how painful.
I don’t know many gays but I think the few lesbians I have known were not very happy people. I never knew for sure the reason for their anger. The only gay man I know is my hair dresser and he is generally up beat but I know deep down he is not happy with his life.
I thought that being gay already did that.
No one doubts that humans can change their behavior... But, likewise, no one doubts that humans have a tendency to fall back into old habits. What would be more interesting than an article announcing a well-known fact (that behavior is a behavior) would be an article following these individuals and relaying levels of success or relapses. Blanket announcements like this are really unimpressive. Who cares if these people are now heterosexual, unless they REMAIN heterosexual? Isn’t that the true measure of success for these programs?
If recent political scandals have taught us anything, it should be that many active homosexuals have no problem pretending to be straight, even if it means suckering some poor woman into marriage in the process.
I totally agree. Tolerance of something you don’t necessarily agree with is one thing...advocating/promoting is another.
I was more tolerant until I went to a gay pride parade and now I just stay away. This just isn’t me.
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