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(Ron) Paul Happy With Western Trip
SCPOLS.COM ^ | 15 SEPTEMBER 2007 | CAMPAIGNS AND ELECTIONS

Posted on 09/16/2007 8:48:25 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: oldfart
Didn’t some “distinguished polling group” put out the word at the last election that, based on exit polls, John Kerry had won the election? We keep hearing about straw polls and “legitimate” polls and the huge differences between them. In the end though, the only poll that will mean anything is the one we’re having in November 2008. Until then none of us knows anything except how to blow hot air. That goes for you and me too.

I'm glad to see some common sense finally rear its head in one of these threads.

See you at the polls. =]

61 posted on 09/17/2007 5:49:42 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Grunthor

“Those aren’t conservatives for the most part.”

Funny, because that’s what I think of the baby killing, big government, tax and spend nannies that people like you have let in to wreck our “big tent”. I’m not worried about some girl with blue hair and a tie-dye.


62 posted on 09/17/2007 5:51:05 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: t_skoz; WildcatClan

There are two categories of ‘Vietnam Veteran’ recognized by the Federal Government.

First, the ‘Vietnam Veteran’. To qualify you actually had to serve in Vietnam. Paul would not qualify.

Second, the ‘Vietnam Era Veteran’. To qualify you only had to be on active duty during Vietnam. Paul qualifies.

This distinction is lost on most people and I’ve seen numerous instances of media confusion on this point as well. Unless Paul has specifically called himself a ‘Vietnam Veteran’, I wouldn’t make a big deal out of this one.


63 posted on 09/17/2007 6:32:50 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Support Ron Paul. He's against abortion just like he's against earmarks. Sometimes.)
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To: Petronski
I’d rather have an agitated, belligerent, senile libertarian in the White House than a BIG GOVERNMENT REPUBLICAN. The federal government is too big. I don’t care if the next president has the morals of Rudy Guliani, as long as it’s not Guliani and he CAN SAY NO TO CONTINUING TO EXPAND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
64 posted on 09/17/2007 6:34:28 AM PDT by jackieaxe (I'm voting for Ron Paul in spite of the Neocon/Big Government Republican propaganda!)
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To: Grunthor
Those aren’t conservatives for the most part. They are anti-war leftists. They are twoofers. They are Alex Jones-bots.

In fact, they aren't even really there! It's just one spammer trying to make Dr. Paul's support look bigger than it really is.

65 posted on 09/17/2007 7:51:10 AM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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To: elizabetty
Ronald Reagan on Ron Paul
66 posted on 09/17/2007 7:57:08 AM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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To: t_skoz

Funny, because that’s what I think of the baby killing

What baby-killing?

“big government”

No argument on that one

“tax and spend nannies”

I don’t know about you but my taxes have DECREASED over the last 7 years. I do acknowledge that spending has gotten out of control.

“that people like you have let in to wreck our “big tent”.”

I’ve never been a fan of the “big tent” because it allows in too many people that do not adhere to core conservative principles. This does not take away from the fact that much of “Dr” Pauls’ support is coming from leftists and anarchists, twoofers and folks that just want to get high and not be hassled by “the man.”

“I’m not worried about some girl with blue hair and a tie-dye.”

Partner that is your guys’ BASE. Be afraid, be very afraid. I said when he decided to run that he had some great ideas but that his opponents were going to wrap his supporters into a big club and beat his campaign to death with them.

He will not break 5% in any state primary, including Texas and THAT’S being generous.


67 posted on 09/17/2007 9:04:10 AM PDT by Grunthor (Lazy Like a Fox)
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To: Grunthor
"He will not break 5% in any state primary, including Texas and THAT’S being generous."

That's an opinion at this point and you're entitled to it. In time (like after the primaries) we'll know the facts. Your opinion may be right. . . or maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see.

68 posted on 09/17/2007 9:10:01 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: Tears of a Clown
When Ron Paul gets 5% in a serious poll

The same polls that show Rudy's ahead?

These polls are garbage.

69 posted on 09/17/2007 9:49:30 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: Grunthor

Well, your “front runner”, Rudy, is pro-abortion. The party is full of pro-aborts or “pro-lifers” who have done little to further our cause. I seriously doubt that you know much about Dr. Paul’s base, and if you’re judging it from a few pictures, well that’s you’re problem. The majority of people that I work with are small government, old-school Reagan Republicans. Family types. Small business owners. Home schoolers. Etc. I only know one guy who said he used to be a Democrat, and that’s because he didn’t know any better. He said based on the tenants of conservatism that he’d learned about when he bothered to look into it, he was a Republican all along.

There have been 3 straw polls here in NH, Ron Paul has won each of them with over 60% of the vote tallies. Considering these are aimed at primary voting Republicans, I’d say the polls aren’t accurate. But I’ll hold out until the NH primary.


70 posted on 09/17/2007 10:19:24 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: A_Tradition_Continues; Extremely Extreme Extremist; George W. Bush
"BTW...your old pall Ron is one of those old establishment hacks."

Here is another very poor attempt at bashing Ron Paul that has backfired.

Apparently ATC believes Ron Paul is an "old establishment hack" and not some "nutter" akin to al-Quaida operatives, or some "liberal surrender monkey", like some others.

Welcome to the fold, ATC.

71 posted on 09/17/2007 11:00:12 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Petronski; dighton; ejonesie22; BlackElk; elhombrelibre; Lakeshark; Dr. Frank fan; wideawake


72 posted on 09/17/2007 11:05:35 AM PDT by Allegra (It's been very, very quiet here for a while...pray that I don't have to change this tagline.)
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To: Allegra

You’re one of them burrito profiteers, ain’t ya?


73 posted on 09/17/2007 11:14:50 AM PDT by dighton
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To: t_skoz

your “front runner”, Rudy


KMA ya little biotch. I am NO Trudy fan.


74 posted on 09/17/2007 11:19:17 AM PDT by Grunthor (Lazy Like a Fox)
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To: oldfart

“In time (like after the primaries) we’ll know the facts.”

I think we’ll know during.


75 posted on 09/17/2007 11:20:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (Lazy Like a Fox)
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To: t_skoz
"The only candidate who might be stronger on border immigration is Duncan Hunter."

So,..would that be because Duncan Hunter is essentially a one-issue candidate, and therefore can spend more time talking about his one issue?

I say why not support a candidate that has all the issues covered? (Dr. Ron Paul)

76 posted on 09/17/2007 11:22:34 AM PDT by Designer
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That Ron Paul can’t tell us who he voted for in 2000 for President, or in 2004 is telling.

‘conservatives’ have no problem telling the difference between Al Gore and George Bush, or John Kerry and George Bush.

So who did Ron Paul vote for in those elections?

Apparently, its a tip top secret, cause Obi Ron doesn’t have the balls to tell us.

‘Real Conservatives’ have no problem at all talking about who they voted for President in either election cycle. Because it was a ‘no brainer’ given the opposition.

but nope, Ron Paul can’t let us in on his votes in those two election cycles....what a brave man he is, eh?


77 posted on 09/17/2007 11:24:17 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Grunthor

OK, replace “your” with “the”. Same difference.

“KMA ya little biotch.”

This is supposed to pass as intelligent discourse?


78 posted on 09/17/2007 11:34:53 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Badeye

Good point...

Scary one too...


79 posted on 09/17/2007 11:39:39 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: pissant

Why, I don’t....


80 posted on 09/17/2007 11:43:03 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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