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1 posted on 09/17/2007 9:08:22 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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Large majority of blacks opposed to or undecided about school vouchers (South Carolina)

And, how many blacks or ANYONE for that matter, have actually taken the time and done their own research rather than listen to the MSM????

2 posted on 09/17/2007 9:10:53 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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The Winthrop/ETV poll found dissatisfaction among black S.C. respondents with the public-school system. About 28 percent of those surveyed said they think S.C. schools are doing a good or excellent job of educating black children. But 55 percent said state schools are doing either a "fair" or "poor" job educating black children.

So the schools are doing a poor job, but we don't want to do anything real to change that.

4 posted on 09/17/2007 9:12:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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Let me see, government schools where my kids learn next to nothing or a voucher that allows me to put my kids in a school where they’ll learn something? “Help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!”

What I like about it is that finally folks who yank their kids out of school because they’re so bad, could finally end having to pay for their children’s education twice.

All parents pay taxes used to fund schools, but ones who actually give a hoot about their kids put them into private schools at an additional cost. They double pay. Under these plans, if written right, they could request the vouchers and get their tax dollars back.

Most excellent. Anotherwords, defund the public school system. Now wouldn’t that be a shame. /s


6 posted on 09/17/2007 9:24:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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The Democrats and a powerful teachers Union have done a good job at convincing people that this is an racial and income issue. Unfortunately those who stand most to gain oppose this system which ultimately pits state schools against private ones (Competition) and puts private education in the reach of a far greater percentage of the population. Those opposing vouchers, they send their kids to expensive prep schools such as the Clinton's, Kennedy’s and others but it's the common working man, those they claim to represent who often can't afford it and a voucher would help, may they be black, white, Christian, Jew, or Muslim. This is an argument about “perceptions,” not reality, as is often the case in politics.
7 posted on 09/17/2007 9:25:30 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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With a sample size of only 700 people, that poll sounds like a crock. I’d like more info on the poll and how it was conducted.


8 posted on 09/17/2007 9:26:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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“Public-school proponents say the state hasn’t done enough to improve the achievement of poor, mostly black S.C. students. Eight S.C. school districts are suing the state, arguing the state hasn’t provided enough money to build modern facilities, hire qualified teachers and provide poor students with the early childhood education they need to ensure success in public schools.”

Same argument was made in NJ.....Billions of dollars thrown away after abbott decision. We now have some districts spending close to $20000 per year (Newark is a good example) and scores are still horendous. And now state spending in all other school districts have been frozen causing property taxes to skyrocket (NJ has some of the highest property taxes in nation).

This whole thing sickens me.


10 posted on 09/17/2007 10:03:10 AM PDT by trappedinnj
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“Public-school proponents say the state hasn’t done enough to improve the achievement of poor, mostly black S.C. students.”

Bull$hit!

Blame parents. These kids are no less intelligent than other kids, they’re simply not sent to school to learn.

I went to junior and high school in S.C. in the 80’s. Kids were uncontrollable. They disrupted classes. Black students who tried to do well were made fun of by other black students.

I had lots of black friends and I still do. But a large percentage of blacks don’t take school seriously.

11 posted on 09/17/2007 10:07:00 AM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.
12 posted on 09/17/2007 10:49:40 AM PDT by upchuck (The President has an Agenda, and it's not promoting The Land of the Free and The Home of the Brave.)
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The pathetic irony of these polling results is that vouchers do not "harm the public schools," they help them. Any competitive situation which causes rotten schools to close and bad teachers to be fired, while leaving MORE money for the better schools and better teachers is good for public education.

Yes, I said MORE money for public schools. Every voucher program ever developed gives about 50% of the per child money to the parents if they want their child to use a voucher and get out of the public schools. That means the OTHER 50% stays behind in the public schools, which no longer have to support that child.

Black parents in Milwaukee in all income groups, strongly support the voucher system there. But then, they have direct experience. They no longer accept as true the lies put out by the "edukashun" unions, and their supporters in the MSM. In SC, the truth has not gotten out, as yet.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Lend Me Your Ears, I'll Bore You to Tears"

15 posted on 09/17/2007 12:27:20 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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