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1 posted on 09/18/2007 9:23:21 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 09/18/2007 9:27:44 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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Typical Buchanan musings from the rabbit hole. (rolling eyes)


3 posted on 09/18/2007 9:33:57 AM PDT by penelopesire
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If the USA attacks Iran first without help from our Allies and, we will cause a problem much worse than Iraq.

- Oil will sky rocket in price and gas will go to $4-$5 a gallon or even more.
- There are thousands of Iranians in this country & some will atack us here.
- Expect missile attacks & suicide attacks on the USA troops in the middle-east and on our USA allies all over the world.
- It is possible that a regional war will break out involving most of the middle east.

We really need to choose the sanctions route first and back China and Russia into the corner on this one before we attack. Just like the previous general in command of the Iraq War said today:

Gen. John Abizaid, who retired from the Army in March after three years leading U.S. Central Command, told a Washington think tank that Iran’s leadership is pursing “reckless” policies and seeks to dominate the Middle East.

“We need to press the international community as hard as we possibly can, and the Iranians, to cease and desist on the development of a nuclear weapon, and we should not preclude any option that we may have to deal with it,” he said.

But he added, “I believe the United States, with our great military power, can contain Iran.”

“Let’s face it — we lived with a nuclear Soviet Union, we’ve lived with a nuclear China, and we’re living with nuclear powers as well,” Abizaid told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.


4 posted on 09/18/2007 9:34:59 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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Buchanan was always a little off-kilter, but he’s a raving lunatic now.


5 posted on 09/18/2007 9:35:08 AM PDT by DallasMike
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It is clear that the watered-down "sanctions" imposed by the UN have not worked. And since Tehran remains defiant--and the Europeans (especially Germany) have no stomach for any meaningful sanctions--it is time now to make the hard choice:

Either we should just back off, and allow Iran to do whatever it wishes; or, alternatively, we should take whatever military action is necessary to stop Tehran's nuclear ambitions (whether that means a total naval blockade or a massive air strike).

I personally support the latter, as the less terrible altermative.

But we simply must choose. Now.

No more fence-straddling.

6 posted on 09/18/2007 9:40:04 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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Pitchfork Pat rides again.


7 posted on 09/18/2007 9:40:50 AM PDT by Obadiah
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Poor Pat, he is ticked that Saddam and Sons are no longer able to pay terrorists to blow up Israeli kids, and force Israeli out of the ME.

Pat’s hope for Iran’s nut job to continue where Saddam left off, is fading.


8 posted on 09/18/2007 9:41:42 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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People forget WWII. Today we have lost a little over 3,000 of our military. Nobody likes that but keep it in perspective. 3,000+ in five years. We lost 7,000 in Iwo Jima in about a week. War is tough but we don’t have to make it tougher by having our own Congress bad mouthing our commanders, and some Congressmen/women calling our military murderers. Get rid of JAG and let our military do their job and we’ll get out of there a lot faster. These guys on TV are just making names for themselves at our countrys expense. If we hit Iran, so be it.....there’s a reason for it. If we do strike, do it hard and fast from the air, then walk away.


9 posted on 09/18/2007 9:43:01 AM PDT by RC2
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Are we safer when our ememies are destroyed?

Is this a trick question?


11 posted on 09/18/2007 9:46:46 AM PDT by rahbert
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re: Gen.John Abizaid

Probably you will get slammed for posting that, but IMO we have as much or more reason to suspect Abizaid is right than that he’s wrong.


14 posted on 09/18/2007 9:48:48 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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Blah, blah, blah...


15 posted on 09/18/2007 9:50:49 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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Trapped in Ignominity, Buchanon targets Reality next.
16 posted on 09/18/2007 9:50:57 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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Hey Prophets are hated because they speak the truth. Pat reads Bush’s mind - that really isn’t that hard.


18 posted on 09/18/2007 9:56:37 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Pat Buchanan? Pat Buchanan? Didn't he used to be on TV? Didn't his mind go to mush a few years back, when most sane people stopped taking him seriously? Whatever happened to him?

Not that it matters a great deal. He never was very consequential.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Lend Me Your Ears, I'll Bore You to Tears"

20 posted on 09/18/2007 10:03:38 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (2008 IS HERE, NOW. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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The only thing missing is the “brutal Afghan winter” phrase.


23 posted on 09/18/2007 10:08:01 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Hillary 2008, the willing suspension of disbelief, or I can't remember for those of you in Rio Linda)
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So we are to believe that MAD will work with Iran? Perhaps but it’s not the nuclear missile I fear but the nuclear terrorist. Somewhere, somehow along the line we are going to have to get serious about finding a way to defeat the terrorist weapon. We already know how to contain and reciprocate missile weaponry.


24 posted on 09/18/2007 10:10:11 AM PDT by rhombus
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Buchanan: Congress gave Bush a blank check for the Iraq war.

Buchanan is nuts. A blank check is a universal draft and the doubling of defense spending. At least. What Bush got was grudging approval for a limited war to be wrapped up in a year.

26 posted on 09/18/2007 10:33:26 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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Trapped in Iraq? Given that Iran is having nuclear “issues” I’d say being in Iraq is a damn fine location!

Location, location, location...


27 posted on 09/18/2007 10:33:45 AM PDT by avacado
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Has Pat endorsed Ron Paul yet? Or is he holding out for the VP slot?


30 posted on 09/18/2007 10:46:36 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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What has the war cost? Going on 3,800 U.S. dead and 28,000 wounded

Pat, we lost 3000 within the span of a few hours on a single day due to ONE terrorist act. We live in a dangerous world, with dangerous people constantly seeking ways to kill us (and that includes you.) The Iraq war is an extension of a policy designed to keep those enemies off balance and on the run and hopefully keep them pre-occupied enough to avoid further disasters like 9/11.

I grieve for those families who've lost loved ones in the war, but there is a very good likelyhood that what they're doing now has saved an even greater number of American lives.

So with all due respect Mr. Buchanan - shove it up your ass.
39 posted on 09/18/2007 11:29:11 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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