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To: SJackson

If the USA attacks Iran first without help from our Allies and, we will cause a problem much worse than Iraq.

- Oil will sky rocket in price and gas will go to $4-$5 a gallon or even more.
- There are thousands of Iranians in this country & some will atack us here.
- Expect missile attacks & suicide attacks on the USA troops in the middle-east and on our USA allies all over the world.
- It is possible that a regional war will break out involving most of the middle east.

We really need to choose the sanctions route first and back China and Russia into the corner on this one before we attack. Just like the previous general in command of the Iraq War said today:

Gen. John Abizaid, who retired from the Army in March after three years leading U.S. Central Command, told a Washington think tank that Iran’s leadership is pursing “reckless” policies and seeks to dominate the Middle East.

“We need to press the international community as hard as we possibly can, and the Iranians, to cease and desist on the development of a nuclear weapon, and we should not preclude any option that we may have to deal with it,” he said.

But he added, “I believe the United States, with our great military power, can contain Iran.”

“Let’s face it — we lived with a nuclear Soviet Union, we’ve lived with a nuclear China, and we’re living with nuclear powers as well,” Abizaid told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.


4 posted on 09/18/2007 9:34:59 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: LM_Guy
Of course we can contain Iran. It's a Third World backwater, not a burgeoning superpower.

To the extent Iran might pose a threat in the future, that threat will be far graver to Israel than to us. Therefore, Israel should use its regional military superiority to deal with any threat. There is absolutely no reason for the US to attack Iran.

10 posted on 09/18/2007 9:43:37 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: LM_Guy
But he [Gen. John Abizaid] added, “I believe the United States, with our great military power, can contain Iran.”

“Let’s face it — we lived with a nuclear Soviet Union, we’ve lived with a nuclear China, and we’re living with nuclear powers as well,” Abizaid told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Containment works only with rational leaders of nation-states. The USSR was not willing to endure the vaporization of Moscow in exchange for the incineration of Washington.

The zealous apocalyptists in charge of Iran's mullocracy, by comparison, wish to hasten the re-appearance of the Twelfth Imam; and this can best be accomplished through a nuclear exchange.

How does one "contain" fanatics who think the death of many millions would be a truly wonderful thing?

13 posted on 09/18/2007 9:48:46 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: LM_Guy

The difference is that Iran is a crazy terrorist regime and they will use their nuclear weapon to blackmail the region and they will eventually use it against Israel. The terrorist regime in Iran must no have a nuclear weapon, period.


28 posted on 09/18/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: LM_Guy
We really need to choose the sanctions route first and back China and Russia into the corner on this one before we attack. Just like the previous general in command of the Iraq War said today:...Gen. John Abizaid, who retired from the Army in March after three years leading U.S. Central Command, told a Washington think tank that Iran’s leadership is pursing “reckless” policies and seeks to dominate the Middle East.

I don't think there's a chance sanctions will work. China and Russia are likely looking to the power vacumn a withdrawl from Iraq might create, and are unlikely to do much to prevent their being able to exert influence in the region.

That aside, I suspect Israel will act as a last resort. And when they do, I've little doubt US installations will be attacked, so hopefully we've got contingency plans to be put into effect immediately.

33 posted on 09/18/2007 10:50:46 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: LM_Guy
We really need to choose the sanctions route first and back China and Russia into the corner on this one before we attack.

Like getting the UN and Europe and China and Russia to go along with sanctions when they were all making money from Iraq worked ? Do you think we didn't try sanctions and all kinds of diplomacy with Iraq, before settling on war ? What would make the same route successful with Iran, since these same states that sabotaged us with Iraq diplomacy and sanctions are getting oil from Iran and are selling Iran massive quantities of goods ?

In particular, WE have no clout because we've boycotted Iran since the 80s and don't do commerce with them. The rest of the world does, and they aren't going to give it up.

In order to make diplomacy work, you need a big stick. Economically we don't have one vis-a-vis Iran, but we do militarily.

36 posted on 09/18/2007 11:21:36 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: LM_Guy

John Abizaid is a dummy. Period. Iran seeks to usher in the Imam by destroying Israel with a nuclear weapon. These people don’t fear death-they think they go to heaven and get 72 virgins if they kill infidels. John Abizaid is truly a clueless dolt. A nuclear armed Iran is NOT an option.


47 posted on 09/18/2007 1:41:31 PM PDT by NoobRep
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