Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING

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[backhoe]

Here we go, again:

Richard Warman Attacks FD

Tonight we answered a knock on our door and we were served with papers from Richard Warman (famous human rights complaint filer).

Below is the text of the papers were received. Apparently Mr. Warman is planning to take us to court over some of the comments he found when he was self-googling.

We would really appreciate the help of those of you who are gifted in online research. Any of the comments he is complaining about that can be proven to be true would, I believe, be dismissed in court.

Quote:

ONTARIO
SUPERIOR COURT OF JUSTICE

IN THE MATTER OF and intended action

BETWEEN

RICHARD WARMAN
Plaintiff
and

CONSTANCE WILKINS-FOURNIER

and
MARK FOURNIER
and
JOHN DOE

Defendants

NOTICE

Pursuant to section 5(1) of the Libel and Slander Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. L.12,

PLEASE BE ADVISED that you have spoken words and/or written words and/or published words that are defamatory and libelous to me appearing on the website "www.freedominion.ca".

The material appears on web pages within the thread entitled:

1) Gentes/CHRC withdraw complaint against Free Dominion

This material first came to my knowledge on 16 August 2007 as being defamatory and libelous. The matters complained of are as follows:

The web-page article entitled, "Gentes/CHRC withdraw complaint against Free Dominion"

www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start-270:

1. Accuses me of being the "Censorship Champion".

2. States in reference to me that "...this asshole is so obnoxious that even his fellow fanatics at the "Human "Right" Commission couldn't stand him"

3. Accuses me of being a "professional complainer".

4. Accuses me of being a "devious character".

5. States that I have been "...opposed to the Freedom of Speech offered by the Internet for years".

6. States that "[i]evitably his crusade has lead [sic] to people offering unlawful death threats against him.

7. Accuses me of having threatened David Icke and also of having threatened "anyone who tried to publicly expose [my] activities.

8. Accuses me of having made false allegations of unlawful speech in the past and that the concerns I expressed publicly about the incitement to murder me from US neo-Nazi Bill White should be doubted.

9. Accuses me of being "involved with an urban terrorist group called the "Anti-Racist Action" who he recently sponsored to go and protest in front of another individual's house, thus the Paul Fromm reference."

10. Accuses me of having spoken to and financed the Anti-Racist Action group and that this group was responsible for "...the firebombing of another individual's house, including the posting of instructions to do it" and that this same group attacked the eyes of police horses with sharp sticks.

11. Accuses me of having sponsored bus transportation for a protest by this same Anti-Racist Action group outside the home of Paul Fromm at which a protestor held a sign stating "Die Nazi Scum".

12. Repeats the libel of Paul Fromm in calling me a "censor".

13. Accuses me of having sponsored bus transportation for the group Anti-Racist Action to the protest outside the home of Paul Fromm in retaliation for Paul Fromm acting as agent for respondents in federal human rights cases I have filed.

14. States that I counselled members of the group Anti-Racist Action group to commit an assault against David Icke because I didn't agree with what he was writing.

15. States that I have threatened the safety of other people on many occasions.

16. States that my action in bringing an application before the CRTC in relation to the threats of US neo-Nazi Bill White is reflective of a dictatorship.

17. In relation to the incitement to murder me by US neo-Nazi Bill White states that "...[i]f there is a serious physical threat, would it be because of activities fighting proven "hate speech"? Is there any truth to the allegations that he has taken his own believes to the streets? Allegations have been made about Mr. Warman engaging in some of the same physical activities, such as exposing the home addresses of his opponents, talking to their neighbours, and other such activities that Mr. Warman would be concerned if his opponents did to him. I don't know who is involved in the "Anti-Racism Action" group, but they seem to believe it is possible to fight "hate" with "hate".

18. Accuses me of being controlled by someone else or by some other group - "the proxy by which the B'nai Brith, CJC, CHRC works through."
- posting by EdS at 2:08
www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=285

PLEASE BY ADVISED THAT you have spoken words and/or written words and/or published words that contain serious allegations against me, clearly stating to the readers of the website www.freedominion.ca in their plain and ordinary meaning or by virtue of the surrounding circumstances which give the words a defamatory meaning inferentially or by innuendo, that you are questioning my morality, integrity and professionalism; that I commit disreputable and unconstitutional acts such as the suppression of free speech; that I am controlled by others; that I have committed criminal acts; that I have threatened the safety of others on many occasions; and, that I am involved with an urban terrorist group.

You have defamed and libelled me in my skill, judgement, and/or capacity in my profession.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT the words spoken and/or written and/or published, in their plain and ordinary meaning or by virtue of the surrounding circumstances which give the words a defamatory meaning inferentially or by innuendo, are completely and absolutely false, defamatory and libellous.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT I request a complete retraction to be published on the website www.freedominion.ca with as much clarity and prominence as the defamatory and libellous words spoken and/or written and/or published.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT it is my intention to commence an action for libel against you.

THIS NOTICE is served upon you pursuant to the paragraph 5(1) OF THE Libel and Slander Act, R.S.O. 1990, ch. L-12.

Date: 10 September 2007

Richard Warman
Barrister and Solicitor

Agent for service only: Heenan Blaikie, LLP
Barristers & Solicitors
55 Metcalfe Street
Suite 300

Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 6L5
T. 613 236.1668
F. 613 236.9632

_________________

[backhoe]

Read the whole thing...

Use the link.

If this jackass can use the law to silence Free Dominion, someone else can do it here. Pay attention, folks.

[backhoe]

Would you ping your “Canada” lists? Much obliged!

[TLI]

ping for later return, must have coffee now.

[AliVeritas]

ping

Pass it on.

[backhoe]

Appreciate your looking- I don’t need coffee, now- my blood’s boiling already...

[Terabitten]

OK, this is in Canada, and I freely admit that I don’t know much about Canadian law.

In the US, though, the line between ‘opinion’ and libel / slander is pretty wide. Where’s the line in Canada?

[Nextrush]

The ability to speak freely in Canada is constantly under attack.

This is but one example.

[AliVeritas]

ping

[backhoe]

OK, this is in Canada, and I freely admit that I don’t know much about Canadian law. In the US, though, the line between ‘opinion’ and libel / slander is pretty wide. Where’s the line in Canada?

My understanding is that it is more like English law- the standard of proof is somewhat lower than American.

However, this jerk is largely basing his pending complaint on what others wrote, that he took umbrage with.

[tsmith130]

1. Accuses me of being the "Censorship Champion".

Well doesn't this lawsuit prove that?

[AliVeritas]

ping

[fanfan]

[backhoe]

--more--

... this news has been picked up in the blogosphere ALREADY!!

http://nonpartisans.ca/

 

It's at Kathy Shaidle's blog now...

http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/:entry:fivefeet-2007-09-19-0006/

 

Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman has become the bete noire of Canada's ne0-Nazis, writes Don Butler. "...he's a "professional complainer" and "devious character" who suppresses their freedom of speech."

Below is a link to a speech made by Warman to the ARA describing how he attacks the people that he goes after. It's kind of chilling.

This speech has already been used as evidence in a court case:

http://www.freedominion.ca/images/warman_speech.pdf

[backhoe]

Many thanks- let’s see how this Law Jackal likes being exposed to public scrutiny and ridicule.

[MindBender26]

>>>>14. States that I counselled members of the group Anti-Racist Action group to commit an assault against David Icke because I didn’t agree with what he was writing.

>>>>>15. States that I have threatened the safety of other people on many occasions.

If proven as false, could be a problem.

[fanfan]

My pleasure.

[MortMan]

>>>>14. States that I counselled members of the group Anti-Racist Action group to commit an assault against David Icke because I didn’t agree with what he was writing.

>>>>>15. States that I have threatened the safety of other people on many occasions.

If proven as false, could be a problem.

If Free Dominion has the same disclaimer as FR at the bottom of each screen, and assuming that the words were posted as part of an article or as comments by posters, then I would think that he could sue only to have the posts removed. But I am not a lawyer in either the US or in Canada.

The phraseology and flow of conversation should also matter, in that they may indicate that the comments were opinion. But again, I am no lawyer.

JMHO.

[Congressman Billybob]

I notice that this man, Richard Warman, is a "barrister and solicitor." I conclude that this man is so full of himself that he sends his shirts out to be stuffed. He's like the Administrative Law Judge from D.C. who filed a $54 million law suit over a lost pair of pants.

Richard Warman is a public joke. Maybe he will never get the joke. But I hope his solicitors read this thread, realize that their client is a pathetic loser, and drop him like a hot rock.

I say that as a "barrister and solicitor" for forty years, who has occasionally dropped clients who were self-desctructive and just plain embarrassing to be around.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Lend Me Your Ears, I'll Bore You to Tears"

[HonestConservative]

LMAO! Thanks!

How true. Reminds me of the Muzzies saying that they are the religion of peace and if you don’t like it we’ll cut your head off.

[backhoe]

Always good to "see" you, John, and I value your comments.

I suspect this little popinjay won't like the attention he is going to draw from this ill-considered action.

[Congressman Billybob]

One time, a Dr. Feldman, a New Jersey dentist, wrote a complaint to Johnny Carson about a dentist joke that Carson had used in his monologue. Carson then did a bit, sitting at a deck, about the good Doctor’s complaint. At the end of the riff, a panel of lights went on behind Carson that said, “Lighten up, Dr. Feldman.”

That’s precisely the treatment that Warman obviously deserves.

Thanks for your nice comment.

John / Billybob

[backhoe]

[backhoe]

There’re over 80 references to this on the internet...

http://tinyurl.com/3aj3qy

[sono]

Does Landmark Legal have a Canadian chapter?

[Fudd Fan]

Are the libel laws in Canada anything like here? Because if this jerk guy is a well known public figure, in the U.S. he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

[bmwcyle]

A Hole

[bmwcyle]

bttt

[backhoe]

Thanks for the picture, appreciate the bump, and Richard Warman is indeed a bunghole.

And a bully.

[Kevmo]

Interesting progressive picture that’s “proof” of global warming.

Beyond that, I’ll need to read this article later.

[backhoe]

Well, the post is certainly running hot:

Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING [ 1 ... 9, 10, 11 ]
18 Sep 2007 21:35 Connie Fournier

Here is the latest from co-sysop Connie:

I deleted behind the 8 ball because he was trolling, but I will address his question.

I couldn't disagree more with the white nationalist point of view, but I am also disgusted by people who would use the government and the courts to try to shut down everyone they disagree with.

Marc Lemire has been fighting Richard Warman's complaint with the CHRC and he has been winning because Warman has been caught doing things like posting on white nationalist sites under fake ids. (Thus the links to the white nationalist sites in my post).

The information that Marc Lemire has provided us is verified court evidence that shows what Warman has done in the past. I am not going to refuse to take it because it was given to me by Marc Lemire.

---

This Warman character is a trolling, stalking, bullying, malicious jackal.

[backhoe]

I think Richard Warman

 

Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING [ 1 ... 13, 14, 15 ]

[NorthernRight]

You of course realize that by linking the thread on FD back to this one, you've now allowed Dickie to view this thread too.

I'm sure he's rubbing his hands with glee in anticipation of even more lawsuits!

What a sphincter-boy!

[backhoe]

You of course realize that by linking the thread on FD back to this one, you've now allowed Dickie to view this thread too. I'm sure he's rubbing his hands with glee in anticipation of even more lawsuits! What a sphincter-boy!

I quake in terror...

While there is some speculation Little Dick is a Rump Ranger, I prefer not to lower myself, and merely style him a bully, thug, and abuser of the law.

Besides, my lawyer is the former Federal Magistrate for the Southern District, and he eats little "solicitors" like Dicky for lunch...

[backhoe]

Still running hot:

 

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330 Replies
8720 views

[backhoe]

Hotter...

 Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING [ 1 ... 21, 22, 23 ]

There is something odd going on, when someone tries to censor your opinion that they are a censor.

 

Warman better be ready for the fight of his life on this one.

[backhoe]

Still running hot...

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[backhoe]

For now: No Yahoo, no Gmail

 

[Psycho_Bunny]

Is this the same Richard Warman who goes to Mexico on his vacations to shoot heroin, dress like a farmgirl and have sex with donkeys?

[backhoe]

Is this the same Richard Warman who goes to Mexico on his vacations to shoot heroin, dress like a farmgirl and have sex with donkeys?

I've heard rumors to that effect, although I'd heard the sex was with his sister...

( ~ducking!~ )

[backhoe]

 

 

 Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING [ 1 ... 27, 28, 29 ]   

...Still Running Hot...

Will Richard ( the little Dick ) Warman, AKA cyber-Nazi, silence our sister site?

Will Y-O-U be next?

Stay tuned...

MORE LIBEL-LAW BASED CENSORSHIP, in Britain.

 

Nutpicking Penalizes Free Commenting

It's not often I agree with Steve Benen, but he makes a good point about trawling through comments sections of blogs of any stripe in order to cast aspersions on the blogger. It gets worse when political candidates do it to discredit opponents, the context in which Benen discusses it here:

For quite a while, conservatives have embraced an annoying strategy -- trawl through liberal comments sections in the hopes of finding intemperate remarks. The right then takes these comments to "prove" that the left is made up of unhinged radicals.

The practice has always been rather self-defeating. In fact, about a year ago, Kevin Drum came up with a sensible maxim: "If you're forced to rely on random blog commenters to make a point about the prevalence of some form or another of disagreeable behavior, you've pretty much made exactly the opposite point." Eventually, the practice was even given a name: "Nutpicking."

It's not easy to build a community with a free and open comment section. If it's worth anything, the blogger has to allow a wide range of views from opponents and allies alike. The blogger has to trust that more extreme views will get challenged by other commenters or address them him/herself. Deleted comments and blocking commenters to achieve a homogeneous community eventually adds nothing but an echo chamber to the blog, and the comments become boring -- just an extension of the blogger.

Under those circumstances, it might be reasonable to judge the blogger by the comments. However, for those of us who have run comments sections for a few years and allow (sometimes through gritted teeth) all sorts of criticism and scolding on the blog, making assessments of the blogger by individual comments -- nutpicking -- is both unfair and undermining to the free exchange of ideas on blogs such as Captain's Quarters and TPM. It pressures bloggers to excise comments rather than just respond to them, as the nutpicking never includes those responses.

Danny Glover at Beltway Blogroll says that bloggers have the power to stop nutpicking -- and he's right. Rather than scan through comments on blogs to find the nutcases every time some significant event occurs, we should focus on the blogposts themselves. We should all allow commenters to represent themselves and not the blogs on which they comment. Otherwise, comments sections will either get so policed as to become boring and inconsequential, or bloggers will simply close them down in order to exercise total control over their message.

I prefer a debate, and I welcome anyone willing to honestly engage in my comments section. Only trolls need not apply.

Posted by Ed Morrissey on September 22, 2007 7:19 PM | Comments (25)

[moonman]

"For quite a while, conservatives have embraced an annoying strategy -- trawl through liberal comments sections in the hopes of finding intemperate remarks. The right then takes these comments to "prove" that the left is made up of unhinged radicals"

We don't have to trawl through liberal comment sections. Turn on the TV and everyone in the world can see and hear all the Liberal nutcases, including you, Richard Warman.

[E.G.C.]

Here are my thoughts on the subject.

I had the chance to read the F.D. thread. This is another one of these sorry lazy miserable good for nothing preening gasbags who clearly is showing himself to be a very poor sport when it comes to people commenting on and questioning his actions.

If he doens't like what is being said about him why is he choosing to do these things that are resulting in these responses anyway? It seems to me he is just another one of these hotheaded preening gasbags who's simply looking for something to be offended by and trying to shut it down.

What's so upsetting about this is he has ways of influencing the judges up there and getting decisions in his favor. Not only do we really need to pay very close attention to this but also we need to be very careful about the 2008 elections becuase if the wrong people end up in power FR could very well meet the same fate.

This is what happens when you let the mob rule crowd run the country. I hope everybody's taking notes about what's happening up there so we don't let it happen here.

Regards......

[backhoe]

I appreciate your looking.

[backhoe]

Montreal Simon doesn't like FD [ 1 ... 5, 6, 7 ]   --leewgrant: The main reason I can figure out is why it's "piss on FD" week in the leftoid universe is because FD is starting to show some real muscle when it comes to political advocacy. And a lot of that is thanks to the ill-thought-out human rights complaint of Ms Gentes. Boy, did that give FD some media exposure.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

12. Repeats the libel of Paul Fromm in calling me a "censor".

I am NOT a censor! To prove it I am going to have you censored!

Is it just me or but doing this does he not prove the criticism true?

He is indeed attempting to use the power of government to shut up people. That is the quintessential definition of a censor.

[backhoe]

He is indeed attempting to use the power of government to shut up people. That is the quintessential definition of a censor.

You've got it.

And the ironic thing about this sledgehammer attempt to intimidate Connie and mark at FD?

Most of the quotes that offended this turkey were from other people at other sites, copied to FD.

The one quote by an actual member he cited as "anti-semitic" was written by FD's only Orthodox Jew!

There's no pleasing the perpetually-offended, I guess.

[NorthernRight]

Backhoe sed:   The one quote by an actual member he cited as "anti-semitic" was written by FD's only Orthodox Jew!

Actually what I said was that he was acting as a "proxy by which the B'nai Brith, the CJC, and the CHRC works through". He is attempting to redefine the word proxy to suggest that I suggested that he's being controlled by those establishments.

Not so. I'm merely suggesting that he's acting as an agent on their behalf, which if I have to, I can prove.

[backhoe]

Roger that...

[backhoe]

This just in from E2:

 

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1073909#1073909

 

Posted: 15 Oct 2007 18:39    Post subject:
Update: Richard Warman is continuing his campaign of harrassment and attempted intimidation of Free Dominion. We were served another set of papers from the Censorship Czar moments ago. As in the first set, Warman is threating to sue unless his demands are met. Connie is retyping it all now and it will appear in a new thread shortly.

[backhoe]

 

Once again, my favorite site in Canada is under attack by Free Speech Nazis:

 

 

The Little Law Jackal is still attacking our sister site- see latest entries:

 

Richard Warman is at it again! More attacks on Free Dominion... [ 1, 2, 3 ]

 

"Richard Warman works for the Canadian government as a "human rights lawyer" and yet seeks to take away the right of free expression for those he targets and the right of the people to choose what they will and will not hear."

 

 "The list looks like something that a cranky child would put out when their feelings are hurt. It is pretty funny that the censorship king is in front of a judge petulantly whining that he has been called the censorship king and that these people should be censored."

 

' If I'm reading this correctly, every single post I've ever made on this website is now an instance of libel against Dick. '

 

"Something Herr Warman should keep in mind:

I don't think he is going to get anywhere with this childish lawsuit aside from wasting more tax dollars and court time. His history has shown that he indeed is shameless in his pursuit of those wastes.

Either way, lets say Warman manages to shut FD down (long long long shot).

That will leave hundreds of posters homeless and moving into the blogosphere. Most of these posters will not be amused with this anti-free-speech crusader.

Clearly Mr. Warman does not like all the bad things people say about him to pop up when he googles himself."

 

The beginning of this sordid tale:

 

 Richard Warman attacks free speech, Free Dominion BREAKING [ 1 ... 32, 33, 34 ]

 

 

 

The original attack on Free Dominion:

 

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84457
Human Rights attack on Free Dominion

was dismissed when the complaintant realized a fight was coming:

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=85209
Gentes/CHRC withdraw complaint against Free Dominion

My own words and thoughts?

It doesn't matter where you stand- Right, Left, or Center-- everyone should be concerned that this Warman varmint is threatening lawsuits because someone was talking about him and he didn't like what he saw when googling his own name.

If he's going to sue people Right and Left, he's fair game for discussion.

And if he's going to threaten friends of mine, he's going to get a lot of discussion on every forum, blog, and site I belong to.

Enough

Is

Enough

with speech codes, PC, and censorship.

You can't have honest public policy without honest, frank public discourse.

So his widdle feelings are hurt- so what?

He needs to grow up, and quit abusing the legal system for his own petty ends.