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Graduates Know Even Less About History (Take The Quiz!)
Madison.com ^ | September 19, 2007 | Anita Weier

Posted on 09/19/2007 5:48:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The University of Wisconsin-Madison did relatively well in a 50-college test of how much students learned about history and economics during four years of college, but students in Wisconsin and nationally knew little when they came in and not much more when they left. No college did better than a D-plus on the Civic Literacy Test released Tuesday by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, a nonpartisan conservative educational organization that stresses the values of a free society.

The national average was F.

The test of 14,000 randomly selected students revealed that some of the most expensive Ivy League universities, with the highest-paid presidents and largest government subsidies, were the worst-performing, the institute found.

Overall, the nation's freshmen and seniors scored slightly more than 50 percent on the 60-question exam. The institute said that a kindergartner would have scored about 20 percent correct just by guessing.

The study tested freshmen and seniors at the colleges and universities, in order to determine how much history they learned there. The researchers did not test the same students in freshmen and senior years, but those who were freshmen and seniors in the same year.

Eastern Connecticut State University ranked first, by adding 9.65 percentage points to the score from freshman to senior year. Marian College, a private school in Fond du Lac, was second, with a 9.44 percentage point gain, while the University of Wisconsin-Madison ranked 15th, gaining 6.3 percentage points.

UW-Madison and Marian College were the only Wisconsin schools tested.

Living in the present

Asked about the exercise, David McDonald, chairman of the History Department at UW-Madison, termed the test interesting but questioned the institute's conclusions.

Students generally learn basic history in high school, he said, adding that they often study historical details in order to pass college entry exams, but then go on to pursue other knowledge at the college level.

"Colleges reflect general attitudes and patterns in society. This is not a historically oriented society. We look at quarterly reports instead of long trends. There is a lot of emphasis on living in the present, and not a great deal of understanding of larger historical patterns," said McDonald, who grew up in Canada but got just three wrong on the American history exam.

"There is a mythical past in which everyone knew this material. If you are from a well-to-do household with well-educated parents, you will do well on this and other academic areas. Students should probably know the sequence of events in the Civil War. But is it more important for Americans to know that John Locke was a major influence on the Declaration of Independence or that they have a strong understanding of their rights and be willing to act on them?"

Students at several expensive universities, including Yale, Cornell, Princeton and Duke, actually lost ground during four years of college education.

But the median score of students at those prestigious universities was higher than most colleges where students gained more knowledge during their college career.

For instance, freshman at Yale got 68.94 percent of the answers right and those at Cornell got 61.9 percent correct, though seniors did worse in both cases.

UW-Madison freshmen scored 51.57 percent correct and seniors got 57.87 percent. At Marian College, freshmen scored just 33.66 percent and seniors 43.10 percent.

Gorbachev who?

The test consisted of 60 multiple-choice questions about America's history, government, international relations and economics. The test, the answers and the results at the various colleges can be found online at http://www.americancivicliteracy.org

Typical questions included: "The Constitution of the United States established what form of government?" and "Which wall was President Reagan referring to when he said, 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall'?" The test also included some questions on the U.S. economy and political philosophy.

"The evidence from our ongoing research shows that colleges, especially the most expensive and elite schools, are failing to advance students' knowledge of America's history, government and free market economics and consequently not preparing their students to be informed and engaged citizens," said Josiah Bunting III, chairman of ISI's National Civic Literacy Board.

"The time has come for higher education's key decision-makers -- state legislators, trustees, donors, alumni, faculty, students' parents -- to hold the nation's colleges and their presidents accountable for teaching their students America's history and institutions."

McDonald said nationwide, students who took the test did well on questions regarding Abraham Lincoln, the New Deal and Brown vs. Board of Education, and did worst on the Revolutionary War, Plato and the requirement for a just war, a question that he said was strangely phrased.

Students who study history in college learn that events are the results of several levels of cause, and that people are products of their times, McDonald said.

"They learn that evidence must be scrutinized and viewed with skepticism," he said. "Our job is to produce people who can do critical thinking, who are aware that they hold certain views and understand why."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: academia; amiabledunces; civicstest; competency; educatedmorons; highereducation; hillsdale; historyeducation; illiteracy; madisonwi
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
56.. but had to take it real fast as my laptop battery was dying
221 posted on 09/19/2007 11:06:32 PM PDT by tophat9000 (You need to have standards to fail and be a hypocrite, Dem's therefor are never hypocrites)
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To: buccaneer81; Rome2000
"...but some of the questions were bogus."
How so?

Here's one that I disagreed with:

53. National defense is considered a public good because:
a) a majority of citizens value it. [my answer]
b) a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it. [the 'correct' answer]
c) military contracts increase employment opportunities. [doh]
d) a majority of citizens support the military during war. [!!!]
e) airport security personnel are members of the Federal civil service. [no comment]

Regarding answer 'b', is there any legal resident who does not pay (through Federal taxes) directly for National defense?

As an aside, I scored only 85%; OK, but no great shakes. Like others 'The Market Economy' did me in - despite quite a few years of subscribing to and reading 'The Economist'. 4 of my 9 incorrect answers were in that category.

222 posted on 09/19/2007 11:09:41 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I got 43 out of 60. :0(


224 posted on 09/19/2007 11:37:02 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: cynwoody

When I was eighteen, I read a book by Harry Browne that explained inflation. He made it so simple and obvious that I wondered why it wasn’t common knowledge. I never did bother to learn the exact method by which the Federal Reserve Board carried it out.


225 posted on 09/20/2007 12:11:13 AM PDT by Alain Chartier
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To: uglybiker

Yeah, LOL. But I have stayed at some Holiday Inn Express hotels and have a TV right on my desk.

History Channel, Discovery, A&E, TLC, etc running all the time I have been on the computer and FR. So I got some by osmosis. :-)


226 posted on 09/20/2007 12:11:35 AM PDT by JSteff (Reality= realizing you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: Petronski

I got 60 out of 60. A had to do a bit of guessing on a couple of them. Comes from having degrees in Economics and Political Science and an interest in history, I suppose.


227 posted on 09/20/2007 1:07:42 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: wardaddy

I broke one of my own rules and over-thought at least two of the ones I missed. Turned out my first answer was right.


228 posted on 09/20/2007 4:03:05 AM PDT by Yudan (You tryin' to tell me Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

bookmark


229 posted on 09/20/2007 4:10:36 AM PDT by g'nad
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I scored 83.33. Is that bad?


230 posted on 09/20/2007 4:24:49 AM PDT by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


231 posted on 09/20/2007 5:08:52 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: Paperdoll

Very well said. :)


232 posted on 09/20/2007 5:36:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Students at several expensive universities, including Yale, Cornell, Princeton and Duke, actually lost ground during four years of college education.

LOL! You can knock me over with a feather. I could care less if my kids go to college, and this is reason #247.

233 posted on 09/20/2007 5:40:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I scored 90%. I was surprised since I graduated HS 30+ years ago.


234 posted on 09/20/2007 5:45:34 AM PDT by NEPA
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To: NEPA

bump


235 posted on 09/20/2007 5:52:55 AM PDT by patj
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

93.33%


236 posted on 09/20/2007 5:56:01 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You answered 47 out of 60 correctly — 78.33 %

Meh...I would have liked to do better. I guess I need more coffee in the morning.

237 posted on 09/20/2007 6:05:40 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Got 53 out of 60. 88%. Not bad. I knew that I was weak on the Civil War era, but I was disappointed that I didn’t do better on the monetary questions.


238 posted on 09/20/2007 6:06:37 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I only got 52 right. I would’ve done better, but the instructions said I couldn’t take a break and breastfeed my kid.
239 posted on 09/20/2007 6:06:45 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You answered 58 out of 60 correctly — 96.67 %

Pretty good quiz, actually....

240 posted on 09/20/2007 6:09:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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