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Brides' fathers banned from giving away daughters
The Local ^ | Sept. 21 | James Savage

Posted on 09/21/2007 9:56:24 AM PDT by Bushwacker777

"A priest in Stockholm has come under fire for not allowing a bride to be walked down the aisle by her father. But church authorities have defended the decision, saying that the tradition is foreign and sexist.

The row started when a bride due to marry on Saturday in a church in the Stockholm archipelago asked to be given away by her father. The priest conducting the ceremony refused the bride's request.

"These are two equal people, and being given away has never been a Swedish tradition," said Rev Yvonne Hallin, priest in charge of the Church of Sweden parish of Djurö, near Stockholm."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europeanchristians; feminism; marriage; notthiscrapagain; pc; readyforislam; secularization; sexualequality; sweden; weddingbells
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1 posted on 09/21/2007 9:56:26 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777

Then who answers the question:

Who giveth away this bride?..........


2 posted on 09/21/2007 9:58:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Bushwacker777

She’s not really a priest; she’s a minister.


3 posted on 09/21/2007 9:59:03 AM PDT by steve8714
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She’s not really a priest; she’s a minister.

And, not a very good minister, at that.

Did you expect the "reporter" to get the fact straight?

4 posted on 09/21/2007 10:00:10 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Red Badger

Herself?


5 posted on 09/21/2007 10:00:17 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: steve8714

But is she Christian?


6 posted on 09/21/2007 10:01:42 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777

Sweden is 85% atheist/agnostic. I am surprised they even have churches any more.


8 posted on 09/21/2007 10:05:29 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: Bushwacker777
the tradition is foreign and sexist

If foreign and sexist traditions are illegal in Sweden, why does Sweden permit the presence of hundreds of thousands of hardline Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims in the country?

Moreover the giving away of the bride is an ancient custom among Scandinavians as well as other peoples.

In Scandinavian history, the groom's family paid the bride's father a bride-price called mundr before he allowed them to join hands in marriage.

By the Christian period, the mundr was symbolic - a demonstration by the groom that he had sufficient resources to provide for his bride.

The giving away of the bride survived as a symbolic gesture - basically of a father agreeing that the groom was accepted by the bride's family.

9 posted on 09/21/2007 10:05:46 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Red Badger

That’s the English and American tradition, to be sure. If you read the whole article, you’ll see that traditionally the bride and groom walk down the aisle together in Sweden. Different strokes, as they say. Still, it was ungracious of the priestess not to let the couple do it ‘their way’....


10 posted on 09/21/2007 10:06:16 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci

Do they throw rice at the newly weds or fish?.............


11 posted on 09/21/2007 10:08:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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LOL


12 posted on 09/21/2007 10:09:04 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Bushwacker777

Ordaining wymen has never been a Swedish tradition either....


13 posted on 09/21/2007 10:09:15 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: CatoRenasci
Still, it was ungracious of the priestess not to let the couple do it ‘their way’....

Dunno 'bout that. Part of a priest's job is to ensure that the proper forms are followed. My priest friend has been asked (and refused) to do a lot of interesting wedding "enhancements."

This one doesn't seem all that injurious, but I don't know how Swedes have traditionally done things, either.

14 posted on 09/21/2007 10:13:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: arbooz

Give away the bride? NO! SELL THEM!


15 posted on 09/21/2007 10:14:40 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Red Badger

Why would you throw rice at fish?


16 posted on 09/21/2007 10:18:06 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Red Badger

How many weddings have you ever been to where they have a stocked pond?


17 posted on 09/21/2007 10:19:02 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Bushwacker777

Our very bright, well educated (genetics PhD) daughter was proud and honored to be given away by her father. When the priest suggested that both sets of parents walk their respective children down the aisle, she firmly replied that her daddy had waited all her life for that honor and she would not clutter it up with some modern inclusive crap. And yes, that’s a quote.


18 posted on 09/21/2007 10:19:36 AM PDT by trimom
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To: Old Professer

HERB-BAKED FISH & RICE

1 1/2 c. hot herb or chicken bouillon
1/2 c. uncooked reg. rice
1/4 tsp. Italian seasoning
1/4 tsp. garlic powder
1 pkg. (10 oz.) frozen chopped broccoli, thawed & drained
1 can (2.8 oz.) French fried onions
1 tbsp. grated Parmesan cheese
1 lb. unbreaded fish fillets, thawed if frozen
Paprika (opt.)
1/2 c. (2 oz.) shredded cheddar cheese

Preheat oven to 375 degrees. In 8 x 12 inch baking dish, combine hot bouillon, uncooked rice and seasoning. Bake, covered, at 375 degrees for 10 minutes. Top with broccoli, 1/2 can French fried onions and the Parmesan cheese. Place fish fillets diagonally down center of dish; sprinkle fish lightly with paprika.

Bake covered at 375 degrees for 20 to 25 minutes or until fish flakes easily with fork. Stir rice. Top with cheddar cheese and remaining onions; bake, uncovered, 3 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Preparation time: 10 minutes. Makes 3 to 4 serving


19 posted on 09/21/2007 10:20:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Bushwacker777

It’s the bride’s wedding. If she wants her father to give her away, that’s her prerogative.


20 posted on 09/21/2007 10:20:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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