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Lights Out a bust
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/22/2007 | staff

Posted on 09/22/2007 6:25:36 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: Vinnie
I am very happy with it. I actually had 2 installed, our bedroom and kitchen are at opposite ends of a very long house. The bedroom water get hot faster than the kitchen because the pipes to the tub and shower are bigger than the pipes to the kitchen sink. At least that is what the plumber said. It always took a long time for the hot water to get to the kitchen because the old waterheater was at the bedroom end of the house.

The on demand waterheater does require yearly maintaince because the scale must be cleaned out of the pipe where the water is heated. That is the only drawback I can see.

21 posted on 09/22/2007 8:05:07 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ole Okie

We have been putting those bulbs all over the house - not to save the planet, but because we realized that in the 7 years we have owned this house, we have yet to change the bulb that was here when we bought the place.

It is in the central hall, and it gets used a lot.

YMMV


22 posted on 09/22/2007 8:05:20 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Ditter; Vinnie

The most fun part about the “demand heater” is that one can take an endless shower (until the cows come home).

Gawd it’s great!


23 posted on 09/22/2007 8:08:23 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Ditter

Thanks.
I have a similar problem, tank at one end, kitchen, bathrooms at the other.
Thought of relocating a tankless outside the kitchen. It would be central to user points.

Any noticeable savings on the bill?


24 posted on 09/22/2007 8:11:35 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie

I know your question was not directed to me, but when I made the switch years ago, I noticed quite a savings. Today I can’t tell you how much it was, but I swore then I would never, ever go back to a hot water heating tank again.


25 posted on 09/22/2007 8:21:18 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

They tried it in North Korea and it was a resounding success

26 posted on 09/22/2007 8:26:04 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Also called a “Tankless” heater.


27 posted on 09/22/2007 8:32:28 AM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: DownInFlames
They just don’t understand that to have electricity, you must GENERATE it.

And that electricity not used at 9 pm is useless at peak hours. You can't store it for later use; it has to be generated as it's needed.

28 posted on 09/22/2007 8:35:14 AM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: bert

North Korea: A liberal success story.

Its absolutely crazy this nihilistic cult of liberalism actually has a goal of turning the lights out.


29 posted on 09/22/2007 8:46:05 AM PDT by ran20
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To: bert

That’s how Havana must look. (I did not go to other parts of Cuba, but it must be worse if that is possible.)

Do you have one of those showing Cuba you can share with us?

Thank you.

P.S. For Cubanos on FR. One can see Havana was totally gorgeous before Fidel. It will thrive once again and be even more beautiful than ever.


30 posted on 09/22/2007 9:03:16 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

This is all of North America...... best I could do. Google images..... night lights fo more.

31 posted on 09/22/2007 9:11:16 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: LexBaird

“Also called a “Tankless” heater.”

Ah yes. Thank you. That is easier to remember.

Now I am really curious what it’s called in Spanish. I vaguely remember telling the salesman (in Spanish) I wanted one of those wall hot water heater thingees. I then pointed to one.

I was asked if I wanted gas or electric and the size of my apartment.

End of discussion. Electric tankless heater purchased.

By the way, mine was made in Japan. I noticed a couple of years ago a tankless heater that was made in Germany. It was a bit smaller but with the same umph.


32 posted on 09/22/2007 9:19:32 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: bert

LOL!!!

I know I shouldn’t laugh...but thank you.

Gads. Poor Cuba. I think it is that dark spot with that one little light southwest of Miami.

That must have been when Carter was there. I noticed they had a few lights turned on at that time, but just in a small area where he was making the usual jackazz of himself.


33 posted on 09/22/2007 9:35:38 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Vinnie

Yes, the gas bill is about half what it was before, that is in the summer. Big deal, our gas bill was so small even with the old water heater. We have a gas furnace so in cold months (we don’t have much cold weather on the Gulf Coast) it is more. I wish I could get something that would cut my electric bill in half. ~sigh~


34 posted on 09/22/2007 9:39:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Yes it is! ;9)


35 posted on 09/22/2007 9:40:48 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ole Okie

Right on. Have you noticed the proliferation of motion detectors and timers for the workplace, too? At my work, if I sit on the can and nobody walks in every minute or so (if I’m working early, late, or overtime when the building is pretty empty), then I wind up sitting in the dark after a couple of minutes. It’s totally obnoxious.

What’s even stupider about workplaces that do this is that it doesn’t save resources, it wastes them! When you flip on a light switch 500 times a day, the life of your bulb goes down dramatically. The cost of bulb replacement increases a lot more than the pennies/month that you’re saving on electricity. It’s a fact and it doesn’t matter if your bulbs are fluorescent or incandescent. It’s all a bunch of political nonsense.


36 posted on 09/22/2007 11:48:50 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
LOL! I'm late on this but my neighbors and I had the same reaction: what an asinine idea. What does sitting in the dark for an hour really prove when it isn't something you could or would do on a regular basis?

They should have just told people to shut off the lights they weren't using. Of course, that has a couple of problems too:

1. Dad has probably already told the kids to "turn that *@&% light off!"
2. As the article mentions, only 14% of the energy use is lighting - you probably need every single home participate to see any measurable decrease.

37 posted on 09/26/2007 11:06:45 AM PDT by batter ("Always take the offensive...Never Dig in." - Gen Patton)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I agree that the whole on-off thing would be annoying....the building needs to reset the timers for a longer setting. IMHO, there's no need to be running the lights at midnight, or weekends.

The timers in our data center are set to three hours. I figure that if there hasn't been any movement in there for that length of time, either I'm not working in there (in which case, the lights should be off) or I'm asleep (ditto).

38 posted on 10/01/2007 6:00:20 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Liberals' silly stunts never cease to amuse me. What they do is beyond stupid.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

39 posted on 10/01/2007 6:02:27 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

There are definitely some dim bulbs: the envirowackos who suggested this.


40 posted on 10/01/2007 6:13:24 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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