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(From 2005) Former Hostages Allege Iran's New President Was Captor
CNN ^ | June 30, 2005

Posted on 09/23/2007 8:09:15 PM PDT by khnyny

NEW YORK (CNN) -- The White House said Thursday it is taking seriously the allegations by former hostages that Iran's hardline president-elect, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was one of their captors at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran a quarter century ago.

President Bush told foreign reporters he has "no information, but obviously his involvement raises many questions."

"As soon as I saw the face, it rang a lot of bells to me," Don Sharer, who served as the embassy's naval attache at the time, told CNN.

"...Take 20 years off of him. He was there. He was there in the background, more like an adviser."

Abbas Abdi, the man well-known to be the leader of the 1979 hostage-takers, told CNN that Ahmadinejad, the Tehran mayor, "absolutely was not" part of the event that involved the captivity of 52 people.

Abdi later became a supporter of reformist President Mohammed Khatami and was recently released from jail for advocating closer ties with the United States.

Iranian officials also deny Ahmadinejad was involved.

The November 4, 1979, embassy takeover followed protests demanding that the United States return the Shah of Iran to Tehran for trial. He had been overthrown by the Islamic revolution 11 months prior and was receiving cancer treatment in New York at the time.

The embassy seizure lasted 444 days and resulted in a botched rescue mission that left eight U.S. soldiers dead and the severance of U.S.-Iranian ties ever since.

The Associated Press, in its archives, has a series of photographs showing a student hostage-taker that some of the former hostages believe to be Ahmadinejad.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 444days; ahmanutjob; genevaconventions; iran; iranhostages; iranianhostages; traitorjcarter; usnavyseals; warcrimes; warcriminal; wtf
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And lest we forget how the hostages were ultimately treated by our own government:

Court rejects Iran hostage claim

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3806087.stm

1 posted on 09/23/2007 8:09:19 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny
Hmmmm...now the CommunistNetworkNews is curious? Bastards they should have brought up the subject before the little murderous dictator stepped on US soil!!
2 posted on 09/23/2007 8:13:47 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: khnyny
Arrest him.

And Jimmy Carter.

3 posted on 09/23/2007 8:13:55 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: khnyny

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3806087.stm

There, that’s easier.


4 posted on 09/23/2007 8:14:24 PM PDT by khnyny (The Clinton's: doing their part to advance the modern, democRAT 'hood mentality.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Look at the date, this is old news, but some former hostages have been speaking out this past week about the “visit” tomorrow.


5 posted on 09/23/2007 8:16:28 PM PDT by khnyny (The Clinton's: doing their part to advance the modern, democRAT 'hood mentality.)
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To: devolve; khnyny; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; FARS; Seadog Bytes; MeekOneGOP; Milhous; ...
I believe that is one of the pictures I have in this slideshow;


6 posted on 09/23/2007 8:16:44 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: LdSentinal
Last time I checked, taking over an embassy is an act of war.
7 posted on 09/23/2007 8:19:24 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: potlatch

Great stuff, Potlatch. Thanks.


8 posted on 09/23/2007 8:21:15 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: khnyny

And monkeyboy gets a free pass into to US..............


9 posted on 09/23/2007 8:21:17 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: khnyny; devolve

You are quite welcome. I’ve had that so long that I forgot about it!!


10 posted on 09/23/2007 8:23:00 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: khnyny
Damn, you right! Still, I can’t stand the mediaprostitutes! They can go straight to HELL!!
11 posted on 09/23/2007 8:23:10 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: doorgunner69

And Columbia University is giving this Monkeyboy a podium with a microphone and photo ops...


12 posted on 09/23/2007 8:23:59 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: khnyny
The White House said Thursday it is taking seriously the allegations by former hostages that Iran's hardline president-elect

The gov't is just now knowing this? Since he's been elected in 2005, it's been all over the Internet. Snopes debunked this but then again Snopes is a left-wing website.

13 posted on 09/23/2007 8:24:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: khnyny

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id28.html


14 posted on 09/23/2007 8:24:23 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nevermind, just saw the date.


15 posted on 09/23/2007 8:24:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: khnyny

The media came out with this story when he was first came to power. Not that I have anything against reminding people of it now.


16 posted on 09/23/2007 8:25:24 PM PDT by Delacon (When in doubt, ask a liberal and then do the opposite.)
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To: khnyny

Abdi is lying. While Ahmadinejad was not a part of the original thinkers of taking oiver the US Embassy, he was certainly there and identified by several hostages as being one of ther interrogators.

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id28.html


17 posted on 09/23/2007 8:26:33 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
There have been former hostages in the media just this past week denouncing Ahmadinejad’s visit tomorrow, reiterating their claims that he was involved in their capture and captivity.

I would think that if you had a life experience such as these hostages, you wouldn’t forget a face. I can provide more info/link re the more recent pronouncements, if you need further documentation.

18 posted on 09/23/2007 8:30:10 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: khnyny
Iranian officials also deny Ahmadinejad was involved.
Means nothing--they don't tell the truth.
19 posted on 09/23/2007 8:32:05 PM PDT by Brasil
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To: khnyny

A suggestion, if I may: put this nutjob in an arena armed only with a sword and shield - like in the movie: Gladiator and let loose a really big tiger, how about two?????? The outcome, please - oh, just a thought./Just Asking - seoul62..........


20 posted on 09/23/2007 8:38:40 PM PDT by seoul62 (Just asking, Seoul62)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Delacon; All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263990,00.html


21 posted on 09/23/2007 8:41:50 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: Brasil

No one, except perhaps the hostages themselves, is telling the truth.


22 posted on 09/23/2007 8:44:29 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: potlatch

.

You are always way out front with your graphics potlatch!


23 posted on 09/23/2007 8:53:07 PM PDT by devolve (---- -The_Fool_On_The_Hill_Is_No_Mountain_Climber-)
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To: potlatch

Here’s a good link.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/098882.php

The hostages have been pretty consistent with their stories, even this past week, being interviewed in light of Ahmanutjob’s visit tomorrow. The problem is, no one seems to really care.


24 posted on 09/23/2007 8:54:07 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: devolve

Mindreader??

No, we ‘collaborated’ and created a lot of slideshows!!


25 posted on 09/23/2007 8:56:40 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/09/iran-issued-waiver-for-terrorism.html


26 posted on 09/23/2007 8:58:14 PM PDT by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: devolve; khnyny

Ahaaa, thanks!! I saved a couple more of those I can add to that slideshow. My picture is in there in color too! Lol, I mean the picture in my SS!

Thanks khnyny!


27 posted on 09/23/2007 8:59:11 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

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Your golden archives

And print media is puzzled why their internet sites are such losers


28 posted on 09/23/2007 9:05:26 PM PDT by devolve (---- -The_Fool_On_The_Hill_Is_No_Mountain_Climber-)
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To: devolve; expatguy

“In fact in 2005, Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was found to be ineligible for a visa after an inter-agency review and was only granted a visa at the insistence of Condoleeza Rice.”

Hmmm, interesting stuff. Thanks expatguy!


29 posted on 09/23/2007 9:07:08 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: devolve

[Your golden archives]

My archives have become a monster lately. Too much, too many folders. Getting harder to find things.

Maybe I should delete a few thousand??


30 posted on 09/23/2007 9:09:18 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: potlatch; devolve; expatguy

Here’s the latest:

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2699


31 posted on 09/23/2007 9:09:19 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: devolve; khnyny

Good link, thanks again. Glad they are speaking out!

“He wasn’t a very nice fellow at the time. He called us pigs and dogs.”

And HE hasn’t changed for the better!!


32 posted on 09/23/2007 9:13:07 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: potlatch; devolve; expatguy

Sorry, this is an older interview too.

LOL. Wouldn’t it be something if this guy was arrested when he came to NY? In a perfect world...


33 posted on 09/23/2007 9:13:38 PM PDT by khnyny (Ahmadinejad: There's A Jail Cell With Your Name On It Here in the US - Welcome)
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To: khnyny; devolve

[Wouldn’t it be something if this guy was arrested when he came to NY]

Lol, and which of our pansey politicians would instigate that? Besides, I thought I read he HAD arrived but have been busy with graphics.

Devolve, is he here yet??


34 posted on 09/23/2007 9:19:08 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: khnyny
“Here’s a good link.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/098882.php

The hostages have been pretty consistent with their stories, even this past week, being interviewed in light of Ahmanutjob’s visit tomorrow. The problem is, no one seems to really care.”

Here is the link to a relative of mine who was one of the hostages. Even though he is pictured with Jimmah Carter on the website, he is not too fond of him for the way he failed to handle the situation.

http://www.rickkupke.com/index.html

35 posted on 09/23/2007 9:45:14 PM PDT by squidward
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To: khnyny

so you’re saying-—what, “i question the timing here.” a la 2345678 Bill ^%$#@!& Clinton?


36 posted on 09/23/2007 9:51:20 PM PDT by jefffriedberg
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To: potlatch

Yep! Nice! ...You NAILED him all right!


37 posted on 09/24/2007 12:35:52 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: doorgunner69

38 posted on 09/24/2007 12:45:50 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: khnyny

At the very least, since the Embassy is American Territory he should be indicted on federal kidnapping charges.


39 posted on 09/24/2007 12:50:11 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Snopes citation please because I certainly don’t find it as a topic on their site:

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=iran&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0


40 posted on 09/24/2007 1:24:50 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: squidward

The Nutjob’s kneepad brigade simply believe that he’s being “Swiftboated”.


41 posted on 09/24/2007 1:25:47 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Cindy

...Have you seen this...?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1901188/posts?page=24#24


42 posted on 09/24/2007 2:04:12 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Yep.
Thanks for the ping Seadog Bytes.

Jihad — another day.


43 posted on 09/24/2007 2:07:29 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: khnyny

44 posted on 09/24/2007 3:20:32 AM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: TNPatriot

There is a strong resemblance. Too bad we don’t have a way of comparing the height of these two guys.


45 posted on 09/24/2007 4:49:45 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: LdSentinal

I’m not sure we can arrest him (though maybe we can), but I think we should honor his request to visit ground zero - of course, we should give those hard-working Secret Service and LE guys the day off for R&R, and of course no guns for any of the Iranian delegation. I bet there are some workers down there that are pretty effective when they “accidentally” lose grip of a piece of pipe on the back swing! LOL


46 posted on 09/24/2007 10:20:02 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: squidward
A friend of mine, an Air Force captain at the time of the US Embassy takeover, was a foreign military sales country managers for one of the African countries. The wife of the Iran country manager, also an Air Force Captain, was due to have a baby the first week of November 1979, so he went to my friend and asked him if he would go in his place. My friend, who was going through a divorce, told him no, that he was not familiar with the Iran program and besides he had his own job and personal business to do. The Iran country manager went to their boss and asked his boss to direct my friend to take his place, and their boss did so.

My friend flew to Tehran with the team and successfully completed the in-country review on November 2, 1979. The team was supposed to depart on November 3, and everyone was allowed to depart--except my friend. The pusillanimous charge-de-affairs wouldn't allow him to depart until November 5, because, he explained, "We don't want the Iranians to think we are abandoning them." Unfortunately his departure from Iran was delayed 444 days.

47 posted on 09/24/2007 12:07:52 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Redefeat Communism by defeating Hitlary in 2008)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Thanks Seadog!


48 posted on 09/24/2007 6:36:07 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_()_ooo_))
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To: RightWingConspirator

Rick Kupke is a great guy, in fact he was just at my house a couple weeks ago. The conversation we had was nothing about the nut from Iran coming to the US, but of how a local jerk broke into his house and stole a large amount of his property he collected from his career working for the government. The guy was caught, but unfortunatley his property was not recovered. Some way to treat a local hero.

Send me a message on who your friend is if you don’t mind. The next time I see Rick I will mention it to him. But then again, I am sure most of the hostages probably keep in touch already.


49 posted on 09/25/2007 10:55:36 AM PDT by squidward
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To: weegee
The Nutjob’s kneepad brigade simply believe that he’s being “Swiftboated”.

I never understood the left’s use of the term “swiftboated.” If they mean using facts to expose somebody as a fraud/terrorist/liar, then I guess the term is accurate.

50 posted on 09/25/2007 10:58:15 AM PDT by squidward
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