Posted on 09/24/2007 8:50:40 AM PDT by mnehring
For one with a long history of conservative Republican political participation…and mine goes back to the 1952 presidential campaing of Robert Taft…the rally Saturday afternoon at the Hyatt-Regency hotel celebrating Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) could not have been a greater shock. Taft, son of the 27th president, was constitutionally (and this word is used advisably) unable to demagogue. His message of hoped-for return to the policies of the past did not contain many personal incentives. In place of entitlements he advocated work, instead of farm subsidies he emphasized the free market. He accepted Social Security and few other accoutrements of the corporate state but not many. He opposed expansion of the size of government, soaking the rich, a multiplicity of federal alphabetical agencies that robbed personal initiative.. He preached the hard lessons of fiscal rectitude. Most particularly in foreign policy in believed in the enlightened self-interest of America First.
His speeches were laced with statistics and legal scholarship which made his audiences apply the hard work of speculative reason. Thus his prescriptions were not simple nor applicable to a stick-on bumper sticker. On foreign policy, for instance, his “magnum opus” was a 127-page book he wrote in 1951 as a prelude to his entering the race for the presidency. It was called “A Foreign Policy for Americans.” In the book he stated in Chapter One that “I believe the ultimate purpose of our foreign policy must be to protect the liberty of the people of the United States…Only second to liberty is the maintenance of peace”. P. 11. He stated that the tradition of “neutrality and non-interference with other nations was based on the principle that this policy was the best way to avoid disputes with other nations and to maintain the liberty of this country without war” p. 12.
But he added, “I have always felt, however, that we should depart from this principle if we could set up an effective international organization because in the long run the success of such an organization should be the most effective assurance of world peace and therefore of American peace. I regretted that we did not join the League of Nations” p. 12-13. But the UN had failed to protect the peace. He added, “I was never satisfied with the United Nations Charter and stated my criticism definitely at the time. The fundamental difficulty is that it is not based primarily on an underlying law and an administration of justice under that law. I believe that in the long run the only way to establish peace is to write a law, agreed to by each of the nations, to govern the relations of such nations with each other and to obtain the covenant of all such nations that they will abide by that law and decisions made there-under” p. 39....
The full article is here:
http://www.tomroeser.com/blogs/blogview.asp?blogID=24188
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Why do I go into this ancient history? Because the role of Sen. Taft was and is at great variance with that of Rep. Ron Paul whose demagogic phraseology appeals not to conservatives-but, apparently if Saturday’s meeting was any indication-to a sweaty group of boisterous, screaming, jumping up and down in place, obese youth (obviously from hours spent huddled before computers), shaggy, unkempt, hirsute, noisy, obstreperous, rambunctious and raucous. And that’s before we consider the male contingent.
Ouch. That’s gonna leave a mark!
Funny but do they understand the constitution lol
We need to start a calendar of "The Babe's of Ron Paul 08'"
Here is ms. January
Well, yes, that's the basic distillation of libertarianism right there. Libertarians are conservatives without a sense of self-sacrifice or self-restraint.
‘a sweaty group of boisterous, screaming, jumping up and down in place, obese youth ‘
The irony of course comes when you recall the only ‘Taft’ ever to become President....and realize we’ve never had a President quite as FAT as that one....(chuckle)
Personally, I’d have rather had Senator Taft spend more time with his kids and grandchildren, and maybe...just maybe, the most recent one to hold office wouldn’t have been a corrupt POS that destroyed the Ohio GOP almost single handedly in the past seven years....
Rep. Ron Paul whose demagogic phraseology appeals not to conservatives-but, apparently if Saturdays meeting was any indication-to a sweaty group of boisterous, screaming, jumping up and down in place, obese youth (obviously from hours spent huddled before computers), shaggy, unkempt, hirsute, noisy, obstreperous, rambunctious and raucous. And thats before we consider the male contingent.....The message that this candidate brings in one of self-indulgence, ideally suited for the mob he addressed......
Ron Paul wasted no time with ramifications. Peace now end the income tax legalize freedom (we all know what that means, huh?) dont tax the Internet (there is a bill to apply postage to emails which is unlikely to even get a hearing much less pass-but its good red meat) get out of the UN!...and restore our Constitution which to the crowd means only one thing-more freedom, much more freedom and not order, hell no! Not responsibility! Hell no! F-r-e-e-d-o-m which translated to it means license.....
This much I can say: if the Republicans lose the next presidential election and gamblers odds are 80 to 20 it will there will be a revolution of sorts to reestablish old principles to the party which it sadly forgot .principles of thrift continuation of tax cuts deregulation and true libertarians as well as social conservatives will have says in the reformulation. Let us hope that the reformulation if it is to come following a presidential loss will be in the mode of Robert A. Taft and not Ron Paul.
Else the Republican party, echoing the New Left, will be Left Out and go the way of the Whigs.
I think he's calling Paul a rabble rouser, and not a very good one.
You might recall Paul's supporters spinning a recent Roeser column as a mark of support. I guess Tom Roeser now enters the bad guy category.
How A Dark-Horse Can Win The Nomination (strategery for 2nd tier, RP)
Man, after a rough Monday morning at work, that "funny comment" was just what the doctor ordered!
Funny comment, I agree, however
obese youth....
Saw the picture of the writer, Tom, he appears to be a big mac himself. So he should stick to the writing about RPaul/subject but leave the physcial makeup of someone out of it (obese part) when he himself is a fat tubby fella.
Sort of reminds me of a fat doctor selling a diet program. Too funny.
>> Here is ms. January
I think... belay that, I /know/... someone skilled in the art of photoshop can make those signs read “Ron Paul — DOPE FOR AMERICA”!
Considering the libertarian roots, that there would be one of those double entendre things.
“Libertarians are conservatives without a sense of self-sacrifice or self-restraint.”
I wouldn’t exactly put it that way.
I’d say libertarians, like our founders, expect all people to exercise self-restraint and self-sacrifice. They tend to operate from the false notion that modern people actually will. Libertarianism is a naive display of blind faith in humanity to behave correctly.
I’m am of the mind that much of our Constitution was written around that expectation of people, when those traits were more common and necessary for survival. Such traits were a given. That’s why we have a list of rights with no accompanying list of responsibilities.
My opinion.
That pic was taken at Golden Gate Park near Strawberry Hill in San Francisco. What are the odds that they were Pro Ron Paul for an issue ‘other’ than anti-war?
REPUBLICAN LIBERTY CAUCUS POSITION STATEMENT
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As we all know, including something in a position statement, and actually acting on it, are often two completely different things....
To paraphrase Freewheelin' Franklin:
"Dope will get you through times of rotten candidates better than good candidates will get you through times of no dope!"
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