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Alleged Attack Against 13-Year-Old Virginia Boy Caught on Tape
Fox News ^ | Monday, September 24, 2007 | Fox News

Posted on 09/24/2007 10:42:03 AM PDT by Rhinoceros

Edited on 09/24/2007 10:46:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Police in Norfolk, Va., are investigating whether an alleged attack against a 13-year-old boy that witnesses caught on tape Saturday was racially motivated, WAVY-TV reported Monday. The tape shows the victim, Damien O'Rourke, who is white, being violently beaten by a group of African American teenagers.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: animals; damienorourke; norfolk; race; racebaiting; racerelations; races; racial; racism; racist; racists
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I wonder if they'll march on Norfolk, next.
1 posted on 09/24/2007 10:42:05 AM PDT by Rhinoceros
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To: Rhinoceros
Gee, I wonder if racist, Sharpton or Jackson will show up to condemn this or were they the ones LAUGHING in the background?
2 posted on 09/24/2007 10:45:33 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Rhinoceros
"wonder if they'll march on Norfolk, next."

Some of the people on this thread seem to believe that that is in order.

Repaying pettiness for pettiness, guess.

3 posted on 09/24/2007 10:45:43 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Rhinoceros
...are investigating whether an alleged attack against a 13-year-old boy...

The tape shows the victim, Damien O'Rourke, who is white, being violently beaten

That doesn't sound like an alleged attack to me, sounds like the kid got 'jumped'.

4 posted on 09/24/2007 10:46:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Rhinoceros
Damien O'Rourke, who is white, being violently beaten by a group of African American teenagers.

Hmmm. Why is it that the victim is "white" but the perps are "African-Americans"?

Why isn't the victim a "Caucasian-American"?

Or why aren't the perps "blacks"?

5 posted on 09/24/2007 10:46:37 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nmh

nope, never happened - who you gonna believe, the tape or your lying eyes.


6 posted on 09/24/2007 10:47:03 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Rhinoceros
We must make sure that the perpetrator of this horrible crime is prosecuted and imprisoned!

JAIL THE WHITE KID! </sarcasm>

7 posted on 09/24/2007 10:48:24 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hillary for President? In the words of Bell Biv DeVoe: "Never trust a big butt and a smile!")
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To: edcoil

Oh, so they were just WELCOMING him into the neighborhood?

My eyes ... must need glasses ... the WHITE kid didn’t seem to be enjoying it or provoking it.

Guess it’s a crime ONLY if a black kids is hurt, by whites of course.


8 posted on 09/24/2007 10:48:50 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Rhinoceros

The most important question on my mind is “who shot the video?”


9 posted on 09/24/2007 10:49:13 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Rhinoceros

Definition of allege: To assert without or before proof.
Definition of attack: To set upon with violent force.

The tape shows an attack, about 5 boys beating and kicking one boy. To say “alleged attack” gives the impression that a) The boy who was attacked has no proof or b) it hasn’t been proven to be an attack. Even if the boy in some way provoked it (not saying that he did, just speaking hypothetically), he was still attacked. Five boys beating one boy, no matter what the reason, is an attack.


10 posted on 09/24/2007 10:49:29 AM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Smokin' Joe

We are going to wait a long time for leaders of the “White community” to go to Norfolk and lead a 10,000 white-person demonstration against this display of racism. Here is the rule: when white kids attack black kids, it is racism; when black kids attack white kids, it is youthful exuberance.


11 posted on 09/24/2007 10:51:41 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Rhinoceros
They need a Rev. somthing for this march.

Try this guy.

He's just a windy as Rev. Al and Jessah.

12 posted on 09/24/2007 10:51:43 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: Ping
Ka-ching!

13 posted on 09/24/2007 10:52:08 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: keepitreal

Don’t yo mess wit nobody named “Damien” - he’ll put a spell on yo’!


14 posted on 09/24/2007 10:52:32 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: Rhinoceros

I saw this on fox this morning. Didn’t look too “alleged” to me, looked pretty much like a real attack


15 posted on 09/24/2007 10:54:43 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com - and yes, yes, I'm a "FredHead". Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rhinoceros

I can’t wait to hear what Soledad or Sam Donaldson will have to say about THIS. I’m sure they’ll demand justice for the kid who was beaten. /sarcasm

(Their coverage on Jena has been absolutely SICKENING.)


16 posted on 09/24/2007 10:55:58 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Rhinoceros

What “alleged??” If it is caught on tape, there is no “alleged” about it. PC “news” dumbs down yet another perfectly useful word.


18 posted on 09/24/2007 10:56:31 AM PDT by redhead (Victory first; then peace)
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To: 3AngelaD

I know, I went through High School in Southern Maryland in the early ‘70s. It got a wee bit rough at times.


19 posted on 09/24/2007 10:56:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: keepitreal

I was brutally attacked in this manner when I was a junior in High School by a group of senior black thugs. I was part of a white minority in a majority black school and was tormented daily for being white. To add insult to injury a black vice-principal campaigned to have me expelled along with the attackers because she believed their ridiculous story that I purportedly caused the attack by calling them racial slurs. Fortunately the principal knew that aside from being a good student, I wouldn’t commit verbal suicide.

I learned a hard reality in High School that some folks only understand violence and can’t be reasoned with. That is one reason why I carry...


20 posted on 09/24/2007 11:00:19 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I saw it and it appeared real rather than alleged. It was a gang of African Americans that jumped him. The white kid appeared to be big for his age, not the kind most gang-bangers would have the guts to take on one-on-one.
21 posted on 09/24/2007 11:01:56 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Rhinoceros

Paging the “Justice Brothers”.


22 posted on 09/24/2007 11:03:20 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

This was not an “argument” it was felony assult!


23 posted on 09/24/2007 11:04:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: MikeWUSAF

“I learned a hard reality in High School that some folks only understand violence and can’t be reasoned with.”

Like Islamic terrorists........


24 posted on 09/24/2007 11:05:57 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Izzy Dunne
The victim would be European-American (or European American, as they used African American, not African-American--one is an American modified by a relation to some continent, and the other is a compound noun). Caucasians would be people from the Caucasus region (apparently how the term is used in Europe).

Or, you can go out 'pc' and use 'American of European descent' and 'American of African descent'.

25 posted on 09/24/2007 11:06:07 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: keepitreal
Bump. As with the Jena six (for which the BBC also used 'alleged') there was obviously an attack. Alleged should not be used.

In this case, the question is whether it was racially motivated or whether there was some motivator.

26 posted on 09/24/2007 11:10:12 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Rhinoceros

Here we go again.....


27 posted on 09/24/2007 11:10:30 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: keepitreal
Bump. As with the Jena six (for which the BBC also used 'alleged') there was obviously an attack. Alleged should not be used.

In this case, the question is whether it was racially motivated or whether there was some other motivator.

28 posted on 09/24/2007 11:10:34 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Rhinoceros
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29 posted on 09/24/2007 11:16:02 AM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
I believe you have to print “alleged” until after there has been a conviction in court.
30 posted on 09/24/2007 11:17:07 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Will take your word for it.

However, the other thread has links to the video. There was an attack (unless some guy is very good with special effects--and for other readers, no, not suggesting that the video was faked; the attack did happen).

31 posted on 09/24/2007 11:23:57 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Or, you can go out 'pc' and use 'American of European descent' and 'American of African descent'.

Call it "pc" if you like, but that's exactly how we say it to our kids. Our children can trace their ancestry back to both Africa and Europe. We just tell them they're Americans. Their ancestors came from those continents. They were born here.

Of course, the eldest, 11, has come to view himself as black, anyway. Labeling oneself as black or white is practically unavoidable because those are the labels everyone else wears and puts on him.

32 posted on 09/24/2007 11:27:55 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I would be the German-Scottish-Frisian-Irish-...-American.

I’m not from the Caucasus.


33 posted on 09/24/2007 11:33:29 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Jedi Master Pikachu
I believe you have to print “alleged” until after there has been a conviction in court.

The only time you must use the word "alleged" is when directly referring to the persons involved until there is a conviction, not the act itself.

This was not an "alleged" anything.....it was 5 kids beating on one kid. When naming persons of interest they would be labelled "alleged attackers."

34 posted on 09/24/2007 11:35:47 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
I am not saying it was not an attack.

The news outlets have to print "alleged" until something is proved in court or an indictment comes down...not sure which.

In this litigious world they do not want a slander/liable suit filed against them.

35 posted on 09/24/2007 11:36:26 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Jedi Master Pikachu
Police investigating mob assault on Ocean View teen

Note the absence of the word "alleged."

36 posted on 09/24/2007 11:42:13 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Rhinoceros

Using the word “alleged” to describe something that is a proven fact is ludicrous beyond belief. We have gone over the edge of political correctness into some alternative reality of Newspeak.


37 posted on 09/24/2007 11:46:05 AM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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To: Rhinoceros

Well, why wouldn’t this gang of nappy-heads beat the snot out of a white boy. They saw the Jena charges melting into obblivion and figure the law won’t touch them either—being members of a victimized class and all— sharpton and jackson will rush to their sides to defend them.


38 posted on 09/24/2007 12:03:42 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Izzy Dunne
Hmmm. Why is it that the victim is "white" but the perps are "African-Americans"? Why isn't the victim a "Caucasian-American"? Or why aren't the perps "blacks"?

I may have the order wrong but from what I remember, African Americans once wanted to be called "Negro", then they wanted to be called "colored" (hence the NAACP), then they wanted to be called "black", now they want to be called "African American" (like Teresa Hines Kerry).
39 posted on 09/24/2007 12:09:23 PM PDT by jackieaxe (I'm voting for Ron Paul in spite of the Neocon/Big Government Republican propaganda!)
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To: Rhinoceros

“Alleged” attack?


40 posted on 09/24/2007 12:14:01 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Don't taze me, bro!!)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
still waiting to hear condemnation of this....

waiting.....

waiting....

41 posted on 09/24/2007 12:14:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: jackieaxe

You left out the sixties classic: Afro-American.

And People of Color belongs in there somewhere, but I guess it applies to more than one group.


42 posted on 09/24/2007 12:18:19 PM PDT by Will88
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You left out the sixties classic: Afro-American. And People of Color belongs in there somewhere, but I guess it applies to more than one group.

I'm doing my best, but I can't keep up. Thanks!
43 posted on 09/24/2007 12:20:36 PM PDT by jackieaxe (I'm voting for Ron Paul in spite of the Neocon/Big Government Republican propaganda!)
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To: Rhinoceros
being violently beaten

Yes, but the important thing is, did anyone display a noose? Then we'd be talking serious crimes.

44 posted on 09/24/2007 12:28:31 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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I wish they'd gone with John Brunner's suggestion of "Afram". It stands for AFRican AMerican, but it sure flows better off the tongue.
45 posted on 09/24/2007 12:29:46 PM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: MikeWUSAF
My husband and I and another couple were attacked by a large gang of black teenagers just because we parked our car on their street. The parking lot was full at the event we were attending and street parking was all that was left.

It was absolutely amazing the names we were called just before they attacked us with glass bottles. We escaped with some nasty injuries but, it could have been a lot worse.

46 posted on 09/24/2007 12:30:40 PM PDT by mia
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To: Tired of Taxes

“I can’t wait to hear what Soledad...”

You’s so right. I saw Soledad interviewing the US Attorney doing her best to be an apologist for these thugs saying that the beating wasn;t so bad, the kid was out of the hospital in a couple of hours - no need to charge anyone..WTF?


47 posted on 09/24/2007 12:31:03 PM PDT by wilco200
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To: Izzy Dunne
Why isn't the victim a "Caucasian-American"?

Or why aren't the perps "blacks"?

This is easier to figure out if "African-American" is taken to be a culture, not a race. Not all blacks are part of the African-American culture. That is how people like Clarence Thomas or JC Watts can be excluded by African-American groups. This is why Bill Clinton could be claimed to be our first "African-American" president. You will find blacks in Africa, the Caribbean, and the Americas. Only in the US do many insist on being called "African-Americans". The group of thugs that beat this kid are definitely of the African-American culture.

48 posted on 09/24/2007 12:31:04 PM PDT by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: Will88

had a buddy in high school, white guy with large round head of frizzy blond hair. name of jeff. we called him jeff-fro-bro.


49 posted on 09/24/2007 12:34:39 PM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day ... John 8:12 & 14:6; Psalm 119:105; Joshua 24:15)
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To: Cracker Jack
This is easier to figure out if "African-American" is taken to be a culture, not a race.

OK, so why is their "culture" relevant to anything?

They didn't refer to the victim's "culture" - there's no such thing as a "white culture".

50 posted on 09/24/2007 12:35:23 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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