Where Do The Finns Come From?

Sydaby ^ | Christian Carpelan

[puroresu]

Finnish has an amazing number of cases, more than any other language, I believe.

[Mamzelle]

Do you suppose this DNA testing could prove how much American Indian genes one has, and would enable one to cash in on the gambling? Many people can’t document their American indigenous tribal roots.

[toddlintown]

I’m thinking Finland.

[ken21]

thank que.

[puroresu]

#####BTW, your basic Korean and Tibetan “red heads” must necessarily have a FAR WESTERN EUROPEAN origin ~ so that gives you a good idea where the Mongols got their languages.#####

I’m interested in Asian languages, and Korean & Mongolian seem to be of the same broad language group as Finnish:

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Language/korean.cfm

[blam]

"The Huns started out as a tribe of Chinese bandits. They got chased out of China by the Emperor ~ within 200 years they'd become white folk."

We'll Get to the bottom of this using DNA

Nuclear and Mitochondrial Analysis of ancient Mongolian sample

"A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu sequences can be classified as belonging to an Asian haplogroup (A, B4b, C, D4, D5 or D5a, or F1b), and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups (U2, U5a1a, and J1). This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu culture, and it confirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century B.C. Scytho-Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002)."

Read this:

On The Presence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang

Pretty Blond Headed Mongoloid Girl

[blam]

I used the National Geographic Geonographic Project test...at $107.50 per sample.

[radiohead]

Hi. This is a fascinating post.

Do you know much about these genetic identifiers? My son's father was Greek on one side and Finnish/Swedish on the other. I am black w/a bit of American Indian and white of unknown origin (father was an orphan and might have been part black, tho he looked, and the Air Force classified him as 'white') on the other side.

Would the Sami/Finn indicators be present in my son? It would be great to have some genetic testing and see what-all we have in us, especially since I don't know my father's background.

[blam]

"Do you suppose this DNA testing could prove how much American Indian genes one has, and would enable one to cash in on the gambling? Many people can’t document their American indigenous tribal roots."

Probably. They are A, B, C, D, X.

[blam]

"Do you know much about these genetic identifiers?"

No (lol), still learning.

I would suggest that you study DNA some and get an idea how this is done and what it covers.
There are tests that will tell you all that you want to know but you won't find it through these 'packaged' DNA sites. It'll be more detailed and more expensive to get what you want.

[muawiyah]

Pretty early for the Huns in China who became the ancestors of the specific people who arrived under Atilla.

Wouldn't be unrealistic to find various Steppe peoples as genetic ancestors to all the various types of Chinese though. The Silk Road did run through the place and there was always a strong trade in women.

However, I was referring to the "historic" Huns, a specific band of which left China and arrived in Europe ~ some sources say it took as little as 130 years, and others say it took 200 years for that trip.

[blam]

Something in reverse happened to the Hakka

They began their migration from the north with some Caucasian features and arrived in the south with classic Chinese features.

[FlyVet]

I thought they came from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. At least that's what we called them, Finns, when we weren't calling them Yoopers.

In retaliation, they called us Trolls, because we lived under the Bridge.

Mmmmmm, Mmmmmm, Beef Pasties, a copper miner's staple.

http://www.exploringthenorth.com/foods/north.html

[muawiyah]

There were "other groups" in the Far North with a variety of relationships ~ all but a dozen or so have disappeared in the last half millenia. Or, worse, we haven't been able to keep track of them. The Hakka are a case in point.

These are also the folks thought to form a major component of the ethnic Chinese migration to the Japanese home islands. They've totally disappeared in that mix, as have the European silk boll traders, South Asians, and so forth.

BTW, the Hakka girls actually are prettier than the Han girls.

[blam]

"BTW, the Hakka girls actually are prettier than the Han girls."

That's what my Chinese friend says about his wife...a Hakka.

Hakka People

[SunkenCiv]

:’)

[blam]

"All I can figure out is they left without women and acquired the greater part of their genetic background by purchasing/stealing brides..."

Like the Maori.

Maori Men And Women From Different Homelands

[Free Vulcan]

Finnish I think was inspiration for Quenya, High Elven, and Welsh was inspiration for Sindarin, Grey-Elven.

[redstateconfidential]

We had two Swedish exchange students in my high school, they spoke perfect English, were girls ,and were as artfully crafted as young women can be. They did have blondish hair, almond blue eyes and were rather curvy and and athletic.

Don’t the Finns and Swedes overwhelming believe 9/11 was an inside job?

[G8 Diplomat]

I’m not sure about the Finns but the Swedes might. Sweden is socialist and many people there aren’t friendly to the US. Not all, of course, as we do have a few Swedish FReepers.