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A Google Translated Article Bites The Left In ...( Bush conversation with Aznar re: Saddam )
Flopping Aces ^ | September 27, 2007 at 9:20 AM | Curt

Posted on 09/27/2007 11:25:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The left is jumping over a report out of Spain that they say affirms their belief that Bush was going to go into Iraq no matter what happens:

According to a new report published today by El Pais, Spain’s largest daily newspaper, Bush told then-Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar at the time that he was going to invade Iraq no matter what happened. Spanish speakers can read the transcript of their discussion — I’m a little rusty — but E&P has a report on the revelations.

El Pais, the highest-circulation daily in Spain, today published what it said was the transcript of a private talk between President George W. Bush and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar on February 22, 2003, concerning the coming U.S. invasion of Iraq.

The conversation took place on the President’s ranch in Crawford, Texas. The confidential transcript was prepared by Spain’s ambassador to the United States, Javier Ruperez, the paper said.

Bush purportedly said he planned to invade Iraq in March “if there was a United Nations Security Council resolution or not…. We have to get rid of Saddam. We will be in Baghdad at the end of March.”

He said the U.S. takeover would happen without widespread destruction. He observed that he was willing to play bad cop to British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s good cop.

According to the transcript, Aznar asked Bush to be more patient and emphasized the importance of a U.N. resolution. The president said he was out of patience. Aznar said he was worried that Bush was overly optimistic about what would happen. Bush reportedly said, “I am optimistic because I believe I am right. I am at peace with myself.”
Barcepundit:

Editor and Publisher has a machine translation, which is quite atrocious.

[...]What it says is that the US would be in Iraq in mid-March whether there was a second UN resolution or not, one that Bush said he would try to get by all means, which is an entirely different matter. As everybody knows, there’s certainly a debate on whether the first resolution was enough or not -many reputable experts think it was, though there’s not unanimity on this, certainly. But the issue is different.

Oh, the first resolution was most definitely enough, there was no need for a second resolution and Bush knew this.  Here is his translation:

[Bush: Saddam won't change and will keep playing games. The moment of getting rid of him has arrived. That's it. As for me, from now on I'll try to use the softest rhetoric I can, while we look for the resolution to be approved. If some country vetoes [the resolution] we'll go in. Saddam is not disarming. We must catch him right now. We have shown an incredible amount of patience until now. We have two weeks. In two weeks our military will be ready. I think we'll achieve a second resolution. In the Security Council we have three African countries [Cameroon, Angola, Guinea], the Chileans, the Mexicans. I'll talk with all of them, also with Putin, naturally. We'll be in Baghdad at the end of March. There's a 15% chance that by then Saddam is dead or has flown. But these possibilities won't exist until we have shown our resolution. The Egyptians are talking with Saddam Hussein. It seems he has hinted he'd be willing to leave if he's allowed to take 1 billion dollars and all the information on WMDs. Ghadaffi told Berlusconi that Saddam wants to leave. Mubarak tells us that in these circumstances there are big chances that he'll get killed.


We'd like to act with the mandate of the UN. If we act militarily, we'll do with great precision and focalizing our targets to the biggest degree. We'll decimate the loyal troops and the regular army will quickly know what it's all about. ... We are developing a very strong aid package. We can win without destruction. We are working already in the post-Saddam Iraq, and I think there's a basis for a better future. Iraq has a good bureaucracy and a relatively strong civil society. It could be organized as a federation. Meanwhile we're doing all we can to fulfill the political needs of our friends and allies. -- note: my emphasis and translation]

Interesting that Saddam wanted to take his WMD plans huh?  I mean if we are to believe the left then Saddam really never wanted WMD's and any WMD program he had was no danger to anyone.  But here he is insisting that he wanted to take his WMD plans with him.

Wonder why that would be?  Sigh....

Barcepundit also notes that the correct translation depicts Bush as someone who DID NOT want war, he was no warmongerer:


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aznar; bush; iraq; saddam; wmd
This is a lengthy EXCERPT*********************************
1 posted on 09/27/2007 11:25:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; onyx; ...
Related FR thread:

Bush thought Saddam was prepared to flee: report

2 posted on 09/27/2007 11:27:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: HAL9000

ping!


3 posted on 09/27/2007 11:34:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
Another FR thread:

Report Says Hussein Was Open To Exile Before 2003 Invasion ($1 billion and information on WMD's)

4 posted on 09/28/2007 12:11:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
Drudge is linking to this report from the UK:

Saddam asked Bush for $1bn to go into exile

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Saddam Hussein offered to step down and go into exile one month before the invasion of Iraq, it was claimed last night.

Fearing defeat, Saddam was prepared to go peacefully in return for £500million ($1billion).

The extraordinary offer was revealed yesterday in a transcript of talks in February 2003 between George Bush and the then Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar at the President's Texas ranch.

The White House refused to comment on the report last night.

But, if verified, it is certain to raise questions in Washington and London over whether the costly four-year war could have been averted.

5 posted on 09/28/2007 12:14:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
More from the link at post #5:

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However, according to the tapes, one month before he launched the invasion Mr Bush appeared convinced that Saddam was serious about going into exile.

"The Eqyptians are speaking to Saddam Hussein," said Mr Bush.

"It seems he's indicated he would be prepared to go into exile if he's allowed to take $1billion and all the information he wants about weapons of mass destruction."

Asked by the Spanish premier whether Saddam - who was executed in December last year - could really leave, the President replied: "Yes, that possibility exists. Or he might even be assassinated."

6 posted on 09/28/2007 12:16:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bump


7 posted on 09/28/2007 12:18:06 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (Dem-conomics 101: Overtax the productive and distribute to the wasteful. (ref: TFLABO))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wasn’t Egypt where the Muslim Brotherhood originally began? Sheesh, imo, had Saddam been allowed safe passage there, at that point his life wouldn’t have mattered so much as the wmd plans. Perhaps I am missing something here, but, my God, if they would have gotten their hands on those plans and scattered em all around, who knows what kind of evil acts might have been carried out in the name of the death cult by now?
8 posted on 09/28/2007 1:06:49 AM PDT by The Bass Player (" Live every day as if it is your last, for surely one day you will be right"~ Tom Burnett,Jr.)
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To: Toadman

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9 posted on 09/28/2007 2:42:46 AM PDT by Toadman ((molon labe))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I wonder what is meant by wmd's in this sense. After all he would not be hauling physical items. GWB made public announcement prior to the invasion as noted that Saddam was given an offer to go into exile. But no mention of wmds where made at that time. And just what would he have taken with him.
Any rate, gotta hop in the tub in a few minutes to prepare for work. Have a great day.
10 posted on 09/28/2007 3:17:02 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
In fact Saddam son Qusay took the $ 1 billion dollar from Iraq central bank per the order of Saddam himself on March 19 2003 and I am 100% sure that Saddam did not offer President Bush this deal that the stupid media is talking about. Saddam did not want to leave Iraq, period.

March 2003 Document: Saddam Orders Iraq Central Bank to Give his Son 1 Billion Dollars http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697062/posts

11 posted on 09/28/2007 5:15:22 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And if Bush had authorized the payment of 1 billion dollars and THAT came out. What would the loony left be saying about that?

Headline: BUSH PAYS OFF TERRORIST!!!


12 posted on 09/28/2007 6:29:09 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Marine_Uncle
I wonder what is meant by wmd's in this sense.

This is by far the most intriguing part of the "story". Why did Saddam want to take "information" regarding WMDs out of Iraq? Why was that so important to him? Did those documents show the location of the WMDs? Did it document any transfers to Syria? As usual the MSM is missing the real story behind the story.

13 posted on 09/28/2007 7:00:48 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813; Marine_Uncle

The real story about WMD’s doesn’t help the media in their attempt to help Hillary!


14 posted on 09/28/2007 8:58:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...
Thanks Ernest.
Interesting that Saddam wanted to take his WMD plans huh? I mean if we are to believe the left then Saddam really never wanted WMD's and any WMD program he had was no danger to anyone. But here he is insisting that he wanted to take his WMD plans with him.
Saddam never hurt a fly -- because he couldn't hear them scream.
15 posted on 09/28/2007 9:08:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: montag813

Their pretty good at being idiots 95% of the time.


16 posted on 09/28/2007 2:32:40 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Bush: Saddam won’t change and will keep playing games.”

President Bush was correct. What does the lamestream media believe the enforcement would have been once Saddam claimed to agree to terms or got the money?

War. Oh yeah right. That’s what happened after the nineeenth resolution Saddam failed to keep.


17 posted on 09/28/2007 3:55:04 PM PDT by dervish
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Couldn’t agree moreso E. They must protect their invested intererest.


18 posted on 09/28/2007 4:07:33 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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