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Check Online Yourself - HPV Vaccine Now Associated with 7 Deaths, 3000+ Adverse Reports
LifeSiteNews ^ | 9/28/07 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 09/28/2007 3:13:52 PM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, September 28, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An online database, freely available to the public, allows one to search for reported adverse effects from vaccines.  The database covering data for the United States includes the controversial Merck HPV vaccine Gardasil, identified as "HPV4" in the database.

The US Government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database indicates that there have been 7 deaths associated with administration of Gardasil.  Age is listed for four of the girls who died at: 11, 12, 15 and 19.

VAERS lists 3,137 reported adverse effects stemming from Gardasil.  The database is voluntary and thus is unlikely to include all adverse effects from the vaccine.

The database, placed online by the National Vaccine Information Center, also indicates 44 adverse effects associated with the vaccine's administration were considered "life threatening."  In 94 cases, vaccine recipients required hospitalization.

To search the database online visit:
http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.html


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gardasil; hpv; hpvvaccine; moralabsolutes; teensex
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To: hocndoc; mewzilla; webstersII; metmom
In medicine, there are some things that are fairly reliable. The test of time is one of them.

Gardasil was approved by the FDA just over two years ago, in that time there have been seven deaths and thousands of negative effects (and in all likelihood 90% of negative side effects aren't even being reported). The long-term effects of the vaccine aren't even known because THEY CAN'T BE. For that matter, there is no way to know if the vaccine will even work after a period of time.

And yet you continue to push it.

Gardasil: Important Questions and Answers
by Peg Luksik, PhD

101 posted on 09/29/2007 2:22:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Only things I'm pushing are informed consent and freedom of choice :)
102 posted on 09/29/2007 2:23:27 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla; metmom
Guiding principle of medicine is first, do no harm. Wish more in the profession would keep that in mind.

The medical profession has been abandoning this principle on an ever-increasing basis since 1973.

103 posted on 09/29/2007 2:23:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: mewzilla

I wasn’t referring to YOU.


104 posted on 09/29/2007 2:26:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: hocndoc

I find it hard to believe that you consider that track record of 7 deaths and thousands of adverse reactions to be *strong* evidence of the safety of this vaccine.

The efficacy is still up in the air as far as I can see. It seems to be working some for now but the LONG term results are still unknown.

So the question still is is whether or not this is safer than PAP tests and biopsies, which girls are going to need anyway?


105 posted on 09/29/2007 3:33:12 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I don’t believe that the vaccine caused any deaths.

I’m not sure why you think that all of the repeat biopsies and paps are benign. The women and girls I see sure don’t. The risk of incompetent cervix due to conizations and the risk of transmission to a baby at birth are significant. And there’s also the problem of counseling the married couple about cross infection and re-infection after we know one or the other has HPV.

I’ve been bucking the system for years, telling patients (and teaching “Worth the Wait” in the local schools) that HPV causes the changes that we look for in Pap smears. And that if virgins married virgins, we wouldn’t have to do yearly Paps, that women in monogamous relationships can go 3 to 5 years between Paps according to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Academy of Family Physicians.

Just before I heard that the vaccine was approved, in one month, I had to tell 2 young women (20 and 22, I think) that their paps showed cancer cells. Both told me about rape before they were 14. Similar things happen every year in my practice. One girl that sticks in my memory had just turned 19. It’s estimated that 1/3 to 1/2 of girls are sexually abused before 18 years old. Maybe I’m biased from working in the domestic and sexual violence community too long.

One of the first studies that I noticed about the vaccine was an article on predicted decrease of paps by 43% each year, as more women go to every 3 year testing because they’ve had the vaccine. (Eltoum, “Impact of HPV Testing, HPV Vaccine Development, and Changing Screening Frequency on National Pap Test Volume”Cancer Cytopathology, 2007; 111:34–40)

Association does not equal causation and those reports hardly equal association, as I wrote in #53 and # 80, They’re really bad examples of “reports.”

The adverse effects include pain, redness, and tingling at the injection site and fainting and headaches.

When I worked at the blood bank and in the hospital drawing blood, people would faint and complain of headaches after seeing a needle, even without being stuck. It looks awful sometimes, like a seizure.

Only one of those reports appears at all plausible as a report that could be consistent with the vaccine actually documented and associated. Most are “a nurse heard from a nurse that . . . further information requested.” One “death report” actually says the patient “may or may not have expired.”

I’ve never seen a case of bacterial meningitis or measles in practice, due to vaccinations. I hope someday that family docs can say that they’ve never seen high grade cell changes on a Pap smear.


106 posted on 09/29/2007 7:05:53 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: hocndoc

If you don’t believe the bad reports, why should you believe the good reports? If correlation is not causation, then how can anyone say the vaccine is effective? Are we only to believe the good reports and not the bad? Why?

If the medical community didn’t had such a bad track record, it just MIGHT be easier to believe them:

For example:

-Vioxx is safe.

-Women don’t have heart attacks.

-Antibiotics won’t hurt anything.

-Trans fats are better for you than regular fat.

-Formula is better than breastfeeding.

-Women should give birth lying on their backs.

-People with kidney stones should reduce calcium intake.

-Nuts are bad for you, no wait, they’re good for you.

-The food pyramid has been revised several times because the previous editions were wrong.

Sunshine is bad, avoid sun at all costs. Ooops, vitamin D is protective against cancer.

So now I’m supposed to trust them on this? On something that hasn’t really had time to prove itself? From a company which previously deliberately deceived people about the safety of drugs it produced just to sell them?

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

No, thanks.


107 posted on 09/30/2007 5:24:14 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Orange1998
If people are dying it’s not worth the risk

You sound like the anti-war crowd.

108 posted on 09/30/2007 5:28:25 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: metmom

Association is not causation and media and news reports are not medical or scientific reports.

I did explain the problems with the VAERS reports as well as what I look for in scientific and medical literature. (reliable source, the same results from multiple sources, ethical methods and time for further review by the science community)

Another plus for this vaccine is it’s made without using an unethical production method - no aborted tissues used to grow the virus. In fact, no virus is grown at all.


109 posted on 09/30/2007 8:54:32 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: the808bass
>>>I don't see any stories posted on FR in re: measles vaccines.

We have many stories here posted about vaccines. More links available per your request.

Merck's [HPV] vaccine tied to 3 deaths [Company lobbied states for shots to be required]

Hearing may link autism to vaccines

Study: Mercury damage to babies costs billions

FDA should take closer look at Thimerosal

CDC Vaccine Data Leads Scientists to Shocking Discovery, Possible Vaccine/Mercury/Autism Link

Federal Bill to Ban Mercury In Vaccines Reintroduced

Merck and the other companies are also in the business of creating vaccines from aborted fetuses.

ABORTED FETAL CELL LINE PRODUCTS AND ETHICAL ALTERNATIVES

Disease

Vaccine Name

Manufacturer

Cell Line (Fetal)

Ethical Version

Manufacturer

Cell Line (Non-Fetal)

Chickenpox

Varivax

Merck & Co.

WI-38, MRC-5

None

N/A

N/A

Hepatitis A

 

Vaqta

Havrix

Merck & Co
GSK

MRC-5

MRC-5

Aimmungen
Not available in US

Kaketsuken

(Japan & Europe)

Vero (monkey)

Hepatitis A & B

Twinrix

GSK

MRC-5

Engerix Hep-B Only

Recombivax Hep-B Only

GSK

Merck

Yeast

Yeast

Measles, Mumps, Rubella

MMR II

Merck & Co

RA273, WI-38

None

N/A

N/A

Measles-Rubella

MR VAX

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38

Attenuvax – Measles

Merck

Chick embryo

Mumps-Rubella

Biavax II

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38

Mumpsvax – Mumps

Merck

Chick embryo

Rubella

Meruvax II

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38

Takahashi

Not available in US

Kitasato Institute

(Japan & Europe)

Rabbit

MMR + Chickenpox

ProQuad

Merck & Co.

RA273, WI-38, MRC-5

 

None

 

N/A

 

N/A

Polio

Poliovax

Sanofi Pasteur

MRC-5

IPOL

Sanofi Pasteur

Vero (monkey)

Rabies

Imovax

Sanofi Pasteur

MRC-5

RabAvert

Chiron

Chick embryo

Rheumatoid/OsteoArthritis

Enbrel

Immunex

WI-26 VA4

Synvisc

Genzyme Bio.

None

Sepsis

Xigris

Eli Lilly

HEK-293

Ask your doctor

N/A

N/A

Shingles

Zostavax

Merck & Co.

WI-38, MRC-5

None

N/A

N/A

Under Development Ebola

TBA

Crucell/NIH

PER C6

None

N/A

N/A

Under Development :Flu,

Avian Flu

TBA

MedImmune

Vaxin, Sanofi

PER C6,

HEK-293

FluVirin, Flu Shield

Flu Zone, Flu Blok

Chiron, Wyeth

Sanofi ,Protein Sci

Chick embryo

Caterpillar

New: HIV

TBA

Merck

PER C6

None

N/A

N/A

New: Smallpox

Acambis 1000

Acambis

MRC-5

ACAM2000

MVA3000

Acambis/Baxter

Vero (monkey)

Chick embryo

 *TBA:  To Be Announced – Vaccine is under development; unnamed at present.   NOTE:  ALL CURRENT FLU VACCINES USE ETHICAL CELL LINES.

Physician Order Line:                                   

Merck (Measles, Mumps) 800-422-9675                       GSK: (Hepatitis-B) 866-475-8222       

Sanofi Pasteur: (Polio) 800-822-3463                             Chiron:(Rabies) 800 244-7668 (PST)                  Wyeth:  (Flu) 800 666-7248 

Note:  Immune-Globulin shots will provide temporary immunity (3-5 months) for Hepatitis-A and Rubella.  IGIM is a series of antibodies taken from donor blood designed to boost the immune system against specific diseases.  No aborted fetal cell lines are used.

 NOTE:  IF THE VACCINE YOU ARE QUESTIONING IS NOT LISTED HERE, IT DOES NOT USE ABORTED FETAL CELL LINES.

110 posted on 09/30/2007 9:09:30 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: metmom

BTTT


111 posted on 09/30/2007 9:17:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Good information here. Thanks!


112 posted on 09/30/2007 7:21:09 PM PDT by the808bass
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