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G.O.P. Hopeful [Thompson] Took Own Path in the Senate
The New York Times ^ | September 30, 2007 | JO BECKER

Posted on 09/29/2007 2:16:52 PM PDT by Plutarch

From a political standpoint, it should have been an easy decision. The calls flooding Fred D. Thompson’s Senate office in the winter of 1999 showed that his Tennessee constituents overwhelmingly favored removing President Bill Clinton from office. But as the historic impeachment trial neared, records show, Mr. Thompson agonized over what he saw as two “bad choices...”

But his approach to the impeachment case — and his ultimate decision to part with the Republican majority by voting to acquit Mr. Clinton on one of two impeachment counts — underscores the concerns now being raised by many conservative leaders.

Less than a month into Mr. Thompson’s official campaign, they are asking how truly committed he is to their cause and, given his late-starting and somewhat languid campaign, how much he really covets the prize. James C. Dobson, the influential Christian conservative leader, recently offered this verdict in an e-mail message to supporters: “He has no passion, no zeal and no apparent ‘want to...’”

To judge from the ratings of interest groups, Mr. Thompson was a loyal Republican. He received a 100 percent score from anti-abortion groups, ardently championed the causes of the National Rifle Association, sided with the American Conservative Union 86 percent of the time and backed President Bush on the war with Iraq, tax cuts and most everything else. But such numbers do not necessarily measure a politician’s priorities.

In confidential surveys sent out by the Senate Republican leadership, Mr. Thompson recommended giving priority to issues like Congressional term limits and overhauling welfare, entitlement programs and the tax code. But he passed over divisive social issues like late-term abortion, cloning, physician-assisted suicide and affirmative action.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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NYT feature on Thompson, provides some mildly interesting background. Part of a NYT series of features on the candidates.

The Long Run

Thompson in Congress

This is part of a series of articles about the lives and careers of contenders for the 2008 Republican and Democratic presidential nominations.

This article doesn't really constitute a hit piece (so don't go getting in a snit Clara Lou) ;-)


1 posted on 09/29/2007 2:16:57 PM PDT by Plutarch
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2 posted on 09/29/2007 2:19:22 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Plutarch
But his approach to the impeachment case — and his ultimate decision to part with the Republican majority by voting to acquit Mr. Clinton on one of two impeachment counts — underscores the concerns now being raised by many conservative leaders.

He was definitely on the right side of that one. He helped keep Al Gore out of the White House -- and Bush from having to run against him as the incumbent president.

It is my opinion that had that happened Gore would be president today.

3 posted on 09/29/2007 2:36:07 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20 (.... when you really start to pay attention, you automatically become a conservative.)
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To: Plutarch

You might have pinged me. It’s the proper thing to do, you know.

Leave it to you to suggest a “snit” because I disagree with you. Typical.


4 posted on 09/29/2007 3:03:37 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I put my money where my mouth is-- Thompson '08)
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>>>>>This article doesn't really constitute a hit piece ...

If you are going to editorialize an article, you should include snippets or break lines to indicate you've taken the original published content of the piece and posted sections of it out of context. Otherwise, folks will see this as an effort by you to make it into a hit piece on Fred.

Instead of running down a good conservative like Fred with the same old crapola that rehashes the same tired and worn details. Why not post a thread that supports your guy, Duncan Hunter.

We all know Fred`s political mentor was the moderate Republican, Howard Baker. And we all should remember that Baker served as Reagan's Chief of Staff. If Baker was good enough to advise Reagan during the Iran-Contra Affair, he's good enough to advise Fred. We also know that Fred was the GOP`s Chief Watergate Legal Council. Fred was also a lobbyist and an actor. Fred also supported CFR. A mistake he's partially renounced --- the issue ad provision or the so-called, anti-free speech provision. The same provision that was shot down by the SCOTUS. Fred did vote to convict Clinton on one of two charges. The fact remains, it takes 67 votes to convict a POTUS on an indictment coming from the House. The votes were 50/50 on the obstruction of justice charge --- with Fred voting for it --- and 45/55 on the perjury charge.

I know you don't like Fred, but these endless efforts to undermine Fred`s campaign aren't working. They're nothing more than an act of desperation on the part of FR`s Duncanista contingent.

5 posted on 09/29/2007 3:10:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Go Yankees!)
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I was fixing to ping you, but you can't ping on an original thread post, and I was going to wait a bit to bump the thread.

If not a snit, what shall we call it when you cluck with disapproval, like adding typical? I don't know what to call that.

And anyway, what do you think of the article? I thought it was relatively fair, seeing as this is the NYT and all.

6 posted on 09/29/2007 3:19:22 PM PDT by Plutarch
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If not a snit, what shall we call it when you cluck with disapproval, like adding typical?
Why call it anything? Except, of course, that using words like "snit" and "cluck" give you a false sense of superiority. If that's what you need....
7 posted on 09/29/2007 3:24:45 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I put my money where my mouth is-- Thompson '08)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
He was definitely on the right side of that one. He helped keep Al Gore out of the White House -- and Bush from having to run against him as the incumbent president.

How so? He voted to remove Clinton from office. He only needed to be convicted on one charge to be removed, not both.

8 posted on 09/29/2007 3:38:25 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Reagan Man; pissant
...you should include snippets or break lines...

Well, there is a ... at the only break in the article to indicate an edit. And the stuff I included has as much postive information about him (e.g. the ACU rating) as anything else in the article.

Instead of running down a good conservative like Fred with the same old crapola that rehashes the same tired and worn details. Why not post a thread that supports your guy, Duncan Hunter.

What running down? Geez. I just posted a fairly neutral article (especially for the NYT) in a fairly neutral manner. If there was something in it to run FDT down with, I might have had something to say, but there wasn't. So I just posted the article which I thought it might be of general FR interest. And anyway, I support Romney, not DH (You must be thinking of pissant).

9 posted on 09/29/2007 3:45:52 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Clara Lou; Plutarch
Hey Clara Lou, you wanna borrow THIS?

Plutarch is the prez...

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10 posted on 09/29/2007 3:51:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ( Mexico does not stop at its border, Wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Calderon)
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Posting out of context is misleading and obviously, that was your basic intent. You didn't post this to lend credence to Fred`s campaign. Now did you? Of course not.

>>>>>And anyway, I support Romney, not DH ....

Romney or Hunter, its all about the same crapola.

11 posted on 09/29/2007 3:59:13 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Go Yankees!)
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To: greyfoxx39

You’re very kind. A worthy representation.


12 posted on 09/29/2007 4:00:02 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I put my money where my mouth is-- Thompson '08)
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To: Reagan Man

You go, Reagan Man. Pluto is just taking up where the head Duncanista left off. Same kind of garbage.


13 posted on 09/29/2007 4:05:54 PM PDT by Clara Lou (I put my money where my mouth is-- Thompson '08)
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All I remember about Fred in Congress is John Glenn rolling him in the “investigation” of transfers of high satellite technology and other high tech to China (Loral?). It iey that Glenn took this tact at the time, but later his motivation became clear when the old fart got to fly once again into space. But Fred just couldn’t get anywhere, due mainly to his then inexperience. Now I see him as potentially another Bob Dole: old and tired. I do like him though. I think many of us are split over (a) who we like, (b) who can win GOP nomination and (c) who can win the General election. All different kettles of fish.


14 posted on 09/29/2007 4:11:28 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Plutarch

The New York Times? THE NEW YORK TIMES?? It’s almost impossible to believe but the NYT actually wrote a fair piece about a Republican. It might even do Fred some good.


15 posted on 09/29/2007 4:52:17 PM PDT by bastiat (ImWithFred.com)
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To: shalom aleichem
Yeah,

We have all heard the “old and tired” crap, and as far as I am concerned, IT is OLD and Tired.

Which candidate are you for, Romney?

I have watched many videos on Fred and he never seems old and tired, just a man of conviction and compassion and very genuine.

Now, on the other hand, the Mittser comes across as too slick by half IMHO.

16 posted on 09/29/2007 5:38:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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17 posted on 09/29/2007 6:26:59 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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BTTT!
18 posted on 09/30/2007 12:05:46 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Plutarch

Ah yes, the Old Grey Lady, damning Fred with faint praise.


19 posted on 09/30/2007 3:52:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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If Fred wins the nod he should pick John Kasich of Ohio as his running mate.


20 posted on 09/30/2007 4:12:17 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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