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Archaeological Discovery In Ohio River
WSAZ News ^ | 9-27-2007

Posted on 09/29/2007 5:03:24 PM PDT by blam

Archeological Discovery in Ohio River

September 27, 2007

It’s like a discovery channel special, a living history lesson and a heated border war all rolled into one. A recent river recovery of an eight ton treasure was followed by angry claims of archeological thievery.

This sandstone scratching is far from another face in the crowd. After years of planning and weeks of effort, a Portsmouth, Ohio Volunteer Recovery Team pulled the prehistoric, legendary Indian’s Head Rock off the mighty Ohio River’s bottom.

“It was tough to get straps around it,” recovery team diver Dave Vetter said.

In the 18 and early 1900's before the days of locks and dams, the boulder would pop up every decade or so, depending on river levels the rock became a popular tourist attraction, a gilded age photo op, featured in post cards. Some of Portsmouth’s most prominent citizens scratched their names in the sandstone. Some think maybe this smiling face is an ancient Indian petroglyph, or maybe not.

“Maybe a quarrymen or an alien from Mars,” Vetter said.

The recovery team presented the rock to the city of Portsmouth for public display.

“People can study history, it better than where it was,” Mayor Jim Kalb said.

Technically speaking, Corps of Engineers folks say this stretch of Ohio River is Kentucky property and now an angry group of Kentuckians from across the river is mounting a political and legal battle, calling the Ohio Rock Recovery Team archeological looters and possible interstate felons.

“They stole it, the consensus is to study it and put it back,” Joe Stockham of South Shore said.

The city of Portsmouth hopes to display Indian's Head Rock at the welcome center or the new city hall. Meanwhile the Kentucky group says the attorney general's office is contacting the state police to file theft charges against the Ohio recovery team.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: discovery; ohio; river; rock

1 posted on 09/29/2007 5:03:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: RonPaulLives; SLB

A Ky. Ping....please. :D


2 posted on 09/29/2007 5:08:14 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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To: blam

Darn, now I’m going to have to stop by and see it ~ go out of my way a few miles.


3 posted on 09/29/2007 5:09:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam
I’ve spent much time in Portsmouth over the years and this rock will improve the place by 1000%.
4 posted on 09/29/2007 5:10:11 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: blam
“Maybe a quarrymen or an alien from Mars,” Vetter said.

I like odd quotes sometimes... :)
5 posted on 09/29/2007 5:12:41 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: blam
OK ... color me blind .. or stupid ... or both ... but I don't see a smile, and a river's depth raises and lowers and a rock is exposed and it becomes a post card?
6 posted on 09/29/2007 5:13:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: blam

“Indian Rock is the place they will flock with their little ones” /obscure


7 posted on 09/29/2007 5:14:42 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: knarf
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There's a video on the website.
8 posted on 09/29/2007 5:22:19 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: knarf

I’m with you. All I see is a big rock.


9 posted on 09/29/2007 5:22:46 PM PDT by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: knarf
I don't see it either.

Oh wait, it's coming into focus...

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10 posted on 09/29/2007 5:35:40 PM PDT by andyandval
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To: Domandred
The guy who "copyrighted" the postcard turned the stupid rock into gold!!

Find all the plates that Celeron planted along the Ohio, then call me. As far as I know, only one was found many years ago. I forgot how many he buried...maybe 7,8,9...

11 posted on 09/29/2007 5:37:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: andyandval
I’ve got a sledgehammer that’ll fix that defect right up...
12 posted on 09/29/2007 5:48:03 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: blam

Below is a great site for this type of attraction:

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/new.html


13 posted on 09/29/2007 5:50:10 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: blam

At least with the Indiania border....Ky owns the river up to the high water mark on the Indiania side..

Don’t know if it applies to the Ohio Border.


14 posted on 09/29/2007 5:50:29 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: andyandval

ROTFLOL! :-)


15 posted on 09/29/2007 5:53:17 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Up to the LOW WATER MARK ~ and that’s always in dispute. The HIGH WATER MARK would extend 150 miles North!


16 posted on 09/29/2007 6:22:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam

I got a rock!

17 posted on 09/29/2007 6:23:46 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: muawiyah

Blame it on global warming...


18 posted on 09/29/2007 6:23:50 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
At least with the Indiania border....Ky owns the river up to the high water mark on the Indiania side..

Don’t know if it applies to the Ohio Border.

I think that Ohio owns slightly off of the shoreline on the entire length of the river. West Virginia and Kentucky pretty much own the Ohio River.

On a side note: The screen cap shows the WSAZ TV logo. I spent my youth watching Bos Johnson, Jule Huffman and Bob Bowen on their newscast. They did a split anchor newscast in Huntington and Charleston. The Huntley/Brinkley Report was designed around that little West Virginia station's news format.

19 posted on 09/29/2007 6:34:44 PM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: TASMANIANRED
At least with the Indiania border....Ky owns the river up to the high water mark on the Indiania side..

Don’t know if it applies to the Ohio Border.

I think that Ohio owns slightly off of the shoreline on the entire length of the river. West Virginia and Kentucky pretty much own the Ohio River.

On a side note: The screen cap shows the WSAZ TV logo. I spent my youth watching Bos Johnson, Jule Huffman and Bob Bowen on their newscast. They did a split anchor newscast in Huntington and Charleston. The Huntley/Brinkley Report was designed around that little West Virginia station's news format.

20 posted on 09/29/2007 6:47:53 PM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: andyandval

Oh - its a Coprolite!?


21 posted on 09/29/2007 6:54:19 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Ghengis

WSAZ bump. I grew up in Kenova.


22 posted on 09/29/2007 7:02:20 PM PDT by Taliesan
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To: Taliesan; Ghengis

Another WSAZ bump. I grew up in Williamson.


23 posted on 09/29/2007 7:41:24 PM PDT by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: geopyg

Is there a peanut in it?


24 posted on 09/29/2007 7:44:53 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Looks just like Joe Dirt’s meteor. Pass the fries.


25 posted on 09/29/2007 7:52:22 PM PDT by tupac (When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty.)
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To: blam
"This sandstone scratching is far from another face in the crowd."

How far was it? Was it fifty feet from another face?

"In the 18..."

That was a very long time ago. A very interesting and bewildering sentence followed.

"'People can study history, it better than where it was,' Mayor Jim Kalb said."

I see.
26 posted on 09/29/2007 8:18:46 PM PDT by familyop ("I'll buy that for a dollar!" --C.M. Kornbluth, in "The Marching Morons")
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To: blam
The Hatfield's and McCoys are going at it over a rock!
27 posted on 09/29/2007 8:25:57 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Sacajaweau

There were seven of them. Each of them was accompanied by a large tin sheet containing the coat of arms of France. The sheets were nailed to large trees. The lead plates were buried face down at the base of each tree. A couple of the plates were buried on the banks of the Allegheny. For some reason no plate was buried at the Forks of the Ohio. A plate was buried near the mouth of Wheeling Creek. At the mouth of the Muskingham River, a plate was buried. At that time it was discovered that a plate that was to be buried at the mouth of the Scioto River had been stolen by eight indians accompanying the party who had disappeared one night. A plate was buried at Pleasant Point near the mouth of the Great Kanawha River. The final plate went near the mouth of the Great Miami River. I do not know which plate was found but since each plate was inscribed with a date, this would not be hard to figure. Presumably, the stolen one was not inscribed. Some day I’d like to spend some time with a metal detector around those regions. I suspect some of the plates were melted into bullets for any of several wars.


28 posted on 09/29/2007 9:27:01 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: Combat_Liberalism

I have a copy of the original map of where the plates were buried and am well aware of the history of the whole affair.


29 posted on 09/29/2007 10:21:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: andyandval
I thought it looked like a giant dinosaur coprolite. Your findings have confirmed it.
30 posted on 09/29/2007 10:54:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: geopyg; TigersEye
Coprolite??? I had to look it up.

LOL!

31 posted on 09/30/2007 3:08:26 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: TASMANIANRED
At least with the Indiania border....Ky owns the river up to the high water mark on the Indiania side..

Kentucky claims every and all border rivers up to and including the opposite bank.

They've been smaacked back a couple of times in Federal Court, where it is recognized that the three mile and 200 mile limits apply only to the seas and are a national, not provicial, perogative.

32 posted on 09/30/2007 3:44:27 AM PDT by woofer (Earth First! We'll mine the other eight later.)
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To: andyandval

What he really said at the 2004 convention was “John Kerry reporting for doody.” ;^)


33 posted on 09/30/2007 1:07:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Don’t know if it applies to the Ohio Border.

YUP, KY. was admitted to the Union in 1792....OH, much later....1823...I think.

34 posted on 09/30/2007 2:55:13 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, Fred, Run. :^)
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