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2010 Census: Who Should Count?
Hartford Courant ^ | September 30, 2007 | MICHAEL REGAN

Posted on 09/30/2007 10:50:30 AM PDT by vietvet67

Border states in America's South and West are battlegrounds in the debate over illegal immigration, but when it's time to pass out seats in Congress, they are beneficiaries as well, a new study says.

Because of their large populations of undocumented residents, Texas and Arizona will each get one extra seat in the U.S. House of Representatives after the 2010 Census, the Connecticut State Data Center projects in a report being released today. California will keep two seats it otherwise would have lost.

Overall, the South and West each stand to gain five seats in the House, the center at the University of Connecticut says. If it weren't for their populations of illegal immigrants, each of these regions would gain only three.

The big loser in the reapportionment will be the Midwest, the center says. Five states in that region are projected to lose a total of six seats, four more than they would have if illegal immigrants were not included in the census tally.

Connecticut, which lost a seat in the last reapportionment, should keep the five it now has, but the Northeast as a whole will lose four - two in New York and one each in Massachusetts and Pennsylvania.

(Excerpt) Read more at courant.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; congress; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 09/30/2007 10:50:32 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: vietvet67

I’d say “no representation without taxation” might be an apt yardstick.


2 posted on 09/30/2007 10:52:04 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: vietvet67
Only U.S. Citizens.

Not Resident Aliens
Not Illegals
Not whatever other cockamamie identification for a power grab that Libs have
No one other than,...

U.S. Citizens!

3 posted on 09/30/2007 10:57:31 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: NonValueAdded

Since most illegals are NOT paying taxes, or even taking false EIC payments, they certainly should NOT get representation.


4 posted on 09/30/2007 10:59:45 AM PDT by tbw2 (Science fiction with real science - "Humanity's Edge" by Tamara Wilhite)
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To: vietvet67

AZ will gain two seats. The growth out here is scary.


5 posted on 09/30/2007 11:00:09 AM PDT by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: SandRat

Are they illegally going to “estimate” the number of people and the racial/sexual/economic breakdown in a community again as they did in 2000? It caused some people to not submit the forms because “their kind” wasn’t the right response wanted in Clinton’s America.


6 posted on 09/30/2007 11:01:49 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: tbw2

We elect our representatives. They cannot VOTE for the representatives. They are not entitled to representation by apportionment since they are considered to just be “passing through”.

Why not tally all the visitors to Vegas and Florida as “residents” too?


7 posted on 09/30/2007 11:03:26 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: SandRat

Agree.

“Members of Congress “are elected to represent constituents. They don’t just represent citizens,” Vargas said. “They don’t just represent the people who vote for them. They represent everybody in that congressional district.”

What a total load of BS..


8 posted on 09/30/2007 11:04:29 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: tbw2

Exactly: and I can see where this is going, pretty soon the libs are going to equate being illigal with slavery!

Then they will try to force us to recognize them through the 14th Amendment+ Such.


9 posted on 09/30/2007 11:05:55 AM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: tbw2
The 14th amendment says "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

Most of the illegal immigrants from the Latin American countries have at least some Indian ancestry. Maybe Congress could pass a law that for purposes of representation, illegal immigrants with Indian ancestry shall be regarded as "Indians not taxed." Are they paying any taxes, other than sales tax or taxes included in items such as gasoline?

10 posted on 09/30/2007 11:06:53 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: JSDude1

I just ended up at the 14th.... very odd.

I think you are correct. This is an end play for votes. They do not care how it damages the country if it results in the Democrats staying in power.

I think everyone should be counted and your citizen status be identified. It will make the illegals easier to find. Once counted, only valid citizens are used for the items out lined in the constitution. All others are placed on a list for rapid repatriation.


11 posted on 09/30/2007 11:31:20 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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They do not care how it damages the country if it results in the Democrats staying in power

See any Republicans trying to reverse it??

12 posted on 09/30/2007 11:33:40 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SandRat

B T T T


13 posted on 09/30/2007 11:35:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Legal votes ONLY!


14 posted on 09/30/2007 11:36:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Regulator

“See any Republicans trying to reverse it??”

Yes but damn few!


15 posted on 09/30/2007 11:37:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: weegee
Are they illegally going to “estimate” the number of people and the racial/sexual/economic breakdown in a community again as they did in 2000?

Yep.

16 posted on 09/30/2007 11:47:43 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Regulator

Just Tancredo.


17 posted on 09/30/2007 11:50:20 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: vietvet67

This is outrageous. These are illegals. They do not need to be counted.


18 posted on 09/30/2007 11:55:06 AM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.))
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These are illegals. They do not need to be counted.

Gasp!

And disrupt the dogma of the DNC in their promotion to achieve a larger base of supporters?

19 posted on 09/30/2007 12:01:36 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“The 14th amendment says “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.”
Most of the illegal immigrants from the Latin American countries have at least some Indian ancestry. Maybe Congress could pass a law that for purposes of representation, illegal immigrants with Indian ancestry shall be regarded as “Indians not taxed.” Are they paying any taxes, other than sales tax or taxes included in items such as gasoline?”

I think the US government had Indians from the US and territories in mind, not Indians from Mexico, Canada, Central America, South America or the Carribean.


20 posted on 09/30/2007 12:04:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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