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Thousands dead in the massacre of the monks
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | September 30, 2007

Posted on 09/30/2007 5:24:00 PM PDT by Stoat

Thousands dead in the massacre of the monks

Last updated at 01:05am on 1st October 2007

Comments Comments Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.

The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: 'Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand.'

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

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hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle and been beaten

 

Reports from other exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply ' disappeared' as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.

Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.

There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.

Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.

There, troops abandoned religious beliefs, propped their rifles against statues of Buddha and began cooking meals on stoves set up in shrines.

In stark contrast, the streets of Rangoon and Mandalay - centres of the attempted saffron revolution last week - were virtually deserted yesterday.

A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.

Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. 'The Burma revolt is over,' she added.

'The military regime won and a new generation has been violently repressed and violently denied democracy. The people in the street were young people, monks and civilians who were not participating during the 1988 revolt.

'Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear.'

Mrs Agerlid said Rangoon is heavily guarded by soldiers.

'There are extremely high numbers of soldiers in Rangoon's streets,' she added. 'Anyone can see it is absolutely impossible for any demonstration to gather, or for anyone to do anything.

'People are scared and the general assessment is that the fight is over. We were informed from one of the largest embassies in Burma that 40 monks in the Insein prison were beaten to death today and subsequently burned.'

The diplomat also said that three monasteries were raided yesterday afternoon and are now totally abandoned. At his border hideout last night, 42-year-old Mr Win said he hopes to cross into Thailand and seek asylum at the Norwegian Embassy.

The 42-year-old chief of military intelligence in Rangoon's northern region, added: 'I decided to desert when I was ordered to raid two monasteries and force several hundred monks onto trucks.

'They were to be killed and their bodies dumped deep inside the jungle. I refused to participate in this.'

With his teenage son, he made his escape from Rangoon, leaving behind his wife and two other sons.

He had no fears for their safety because his brother is a powerful general who, he believes, will defend the family.

Mr Win's defection will raise a faint hope among tens of thousands of Burmese who have fled to villages along the Thai border.

They will feel others in the army may follow him and turn on their ageing leaders, Senior General Than Shwe and his deputy, Vice Senior General Maung Aye.

UN special envoy Ibrahim Gambari is still trying to set up a meeting with General Shwe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4them2solve; buddhists; burma; genocide; mandalay; massacre; monks; notourproblem; rangoon; thailand
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1 posted on 09/30/2007 5:24:05 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

OMG! :*( :*(

I can’t wait for the UN/NATO troops to rush to Burma to...
what? They aren’t going to do anything??

Never mind. *sigh*


2 posted on 09/30/2007 5:26:46 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Stoat

I pray this is untrue; I fear that it is...


3 posted on 09/30/2007 5:28:29 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Stoat

For the sake of democracy and what is right, we should go in there and pre-emptivate their Burmese butts.


4 posted on 09/30/2007 5:29:24 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Stoat
The Butchers of Rangoon,aided by the intentional inaction of the Butchers of Beijing.
5 posted on 09/30/2007 5:29:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: Stoat

Freedom, is not free.


6 posted on 09/30/2007 5:31:46 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Gay State Conservative

yep.....this is khmer rouge SE.


7 posted on 09/30/2007 5:31:50 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Stoat

Thank goodness they weren’t moslems..

After all the moslems are just members of the religion of peace...

/s


8 posted on 09/30/2007 5:33:16 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Stoat

Bad. All bad...


9 posted on 09/30/2007 5:33:32 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Stoat

Not to sound flippant but the Burmese thugs make Darth Vader look like a piker.


10 posted on 09/30/2007 5:33:46 PM PDT by Maynerd (Hilary = amnesty and socialized medicine)
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To: Stoat

If true I hope this story gets documented and widely reported.


11 posted on 09/30/2007 5:34:17 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Stoat

This does not suprise me because they know the world is watching them.


12 posted on 09/30/2007 5:34:35 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Stoat

Don’t worry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the DC morons will fix this too.


13 posted on 09/30/2007 5:34:50 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: pillut48

You can be sure Osamabama has written these guys off already. And the Hildabeast? I think she and the Nancy woman are looking forward to arranging some preliminary meetings with the ruling generals so we wouldn’t want to unnecessarily insult them now.


14 posted on 09/30/2007 5:35:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Stoat

A pogrom against Buddhist monks in Burma?

The whole world has gone mad.


15 posted on 09/30/2007 5:36:08 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: Stoat

Bomb Burma! Save the monks!


16 posted on 09/30/2007 5:36:11 PM PDT by DrGunsforHands
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To: Gay State Conservative
The Butchers of Rangoon,aided by the intentional inaction of the Butchers of Beijing.

Our good friends the Chinese, thank you Bush 41, have quite the collection of friends that they protect in the venal and corrupt UN: NK, Burma, Sudan/Darfur, Iran, etc. The crucifix wearing thug, Putin, has a similar Christmas card list.

"You shall know them by their fruits."

17 posted on 09/30/2007 5:37:42 PM PDT by Maynerd (Hilary = amnesty and socialized medicine)
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To: stuartcr
For the sake of democracy and what is right, we should go in there and pre-emptivate their Burmese butts.

Since we are a little busy elsewhere, why not send in Australia, or how about the Mexican army, if they can stop assisting the drug runners long enough. Maybe Egypt, Canada...Or how about our good trading partner, China?

We're not the planets police department.

18 posted on 09/30/2007 5:38:58 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Stoat
This is so sad.

I guess the figures on this banner will have to be amended:


19 posted on 09/30/2007 5:40:36 PM PDT by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: TigersEye

This is horrible news..


20 posted on 09/30/2007 5:40:48 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Stoat
I am unsure of the politics in this region. What sort of dictatorship is this stemming from? I can’t imagine monks being killed and in large numbers and without assistance to help from some group inside. What larger political body is this region tied to? Communists? I am a bit Burma naive.

Death and massacre of any true peaceful religion is heartwrenching to me.

21 posted on 09/30/2007 5:40:57 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Stoat
MSM Rule #1: No video, No coverage.

Have any commercial satellites been imaging Burma this past week?

22 posted on 09/30/2007 5:41:37 PM PDT by fella (The proper application of the truth far more important than the knowledge of it's existance."Ike")
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To: pandoraou812

It’s particularly horrible for the Myanmar government to target people who are pacifists and will not fight back.


23 posted on 09/30/2007 5:42:45 PM PDT by Palladin (Satan to Fidel: "Let me light your cigar.")
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To: Stoat

God will repay the tyrants.


24 posted on 09/30/2007 5:43:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The Pledge For America's Revival" - Alan Keyes 2008 - www.AlanKeyes.com)
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To: Palladin

I know...Prayers for them.


25 posted on 09/30/2007 5:45:13 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Stoat
This is what Clinton did to those poor children in Waco.

This is what Hillary will do if she is elected president.

26 posted on 09/30/2007 5:46:00 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: EternalVigilance
God will repay the tyrants.

Pretty cold comfort to the families of the dead.

L

27 posted on 09/30/2007 5:46:50 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Stoat

Let’s see, first you disarm the people then you can kill them!

Oh Wait! the un is here to save the day...hello?...hello?


28 posted on 09/30/2007 5:46:57 PM PDT by stimpy17 (Home of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: Stoat

Dear God. The UN will just shrug their shoulders as usual.


29 posted on 09/30/2007 5:47:39 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Stoat

Freekin Commies.

Prayers for the people of Burma


30 posted on 09/30/2007 5:48:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TBall
If true I hope this story gets documented and widely reported.

The media will not risk there lives, and therefore will not report it, and it's not sexy enough anyways. Similar to how the media doesn't like to venture too far outside of Baghdad and report on the progress we've made there.
31 posted on 09/30/2007 5:48:15 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: TigerLikesRooster

terrible


32 posted on 09/30/2007 5:49:30 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: Stoat

Sad news this.


33 posted on 09/30/2007 5:52:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Stoat

And all the UN gives a crap about is global warming.

Madness.


34 posted on 09/30/2007 5:52:44 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: GOP Poet
The guys doing the killing are as Buddhist as their victims.

Like the Islamofascists, these Budeofascists are as fascist as the Nazis or the Democratic National Committee these days.

35 posted on 09/30/2007 5:53:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TBall

“If true I hope this story gets documented and widely reported.”

Don’t hold your breath!


36 posted on 09/30/2007 5:54:55 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: mainepatsfan
This is horrible. Absolutely horrible.

And no, don't expect anything from the UN. It's a worthless body of anti-American drones that couldn't talk it's way out of a wet paper bag. Besides, it has no standing army other than that of the US. And ours is a bit busy of late.

37 posted on 09/30/2007 5:55:23 PM PDT by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: GOP Poet

The government of Burma is a socialist, isolationist military junta - they’re all basically nominally Buddhist in background themselves though I suspect they’re not particularly observant.

There are many ethnic minorities in Burma around the edges of the country with a variety of religions (the Karen are Christian, etc.) all of which are oppressed by the Junta as well.


38 posted on 09/30/2007 5:56:34 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Stoat

Has the UN threaten them with a letter yet? /groan


39 posted on 09/30/2007 5:56:56 PM PDT by rudypoot
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To: GOP Poet

SE Asian dominoes.......all that is left is Thailand, which seems to have held off chinese style communism, but is being threatened with islam while otherwise surrounded with the former.


40 posted on 09/30/2007 5:58:32 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Names Ash Housewares
And all the UN gives a crap about is global warming.

That's not true! Didn't you read Bar-Ki-Moon's press release?

He also called on Burma's military leaders to show restraint in the face of continued pro-democracy protests led by Buddhist monks.

either passive-aggressive or a complete pussy.

41 posted on 09/30/2007 5:59:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (life is like "a bad Saturday Night Live skit that is done in extremely bad taste.")
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To: Stoat

Don’t worry, everyone. I’m sure the UN will get right on this.


42 posted on 09/30/2007 6:00:12 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: pandoraou812
It is, pandy. But I expected as much. Beijing turns a blind eye and the UN sit on their collective thumbs. I only hope the Burmese people will see that they have one chance to end this tyranny. The thugs will have to start disappearing and mysteriously turning up dead by any means possible. Oddly enough I don’t think it’s in their mindset to do that and yet the thugs come from the same society.
43 posted on 09/30/2007 6:00:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: GOP Poet
I am unsure of the politics in this region

It's a socialist Military regime whose official Junta name is the State Peace and Development Council


44 posted on 09/30/2007 6:02:07 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: mark3681

While I don’t expect the mainstream to give it much play, I don’t think this story will go away. I know FR will give it many, many bumps.


45 posted on 09/30/2007 6:03:00 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Stoat

I’m surprised by the silence from Hollywood about this.

Well, maybe not...


46 posted on 09/30/2007 6:03:56 PM PDT by Hexenhammer
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From the article:

Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear.'

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One of the innumerable Blessings that we in the United States enjoy is the freedom to speak and to protest against injustice and, in this case, unvarnished and unrepentant Evil.

Here is the website of the Embassy of the Union of Myanmar (Burma) in Washington DC.

Home

and here is their address and contact information:

Contact Us

Tel :     202-332-3344,  202-332-4350,  202-332-4352

FAX :    202-332-4351

Postal address :
 
             Embassy of the Union of Myanmar
     2300 S Street NW, Washington D.C. - 20008
 
Electronic mail :
 
General Information: info@mewashingtondc.com

Webmaster: webmaster@mewashingtondc.com

 

Naturally, I'm not advocating any form of criminal activity.

I am merely suggesting that there are innumerable ways in which decent people can register and communicate their profound disgust with a murderous, evil regime that is long overdue to be overthrown, by any means necessary..

47 posted on 09/30/2007 6:04:44 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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“While I don’t expect the mainstream to give it much play, I don’t think this story will go away. I know FR will give it many, many bumps.”

The mainstream won’t give it any play, to speak of. What really has to happen is for some of the leading conservative candidates, and GW, to use their bully pulpits and do some ranting and raving for a change!

I’ve been waiting for years for one of them to stand up to a microphone and just go stone crazy on some of these pieces of dog squeeze!

I’d like to hear GW stand up and tell these thugs in Burma that we are coming with both guns blazin’ to rip them a new one!
(Oh yea. AND FOLLOW UP ON IT!)


48 posted on 09/30/2007 6:07:26 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: Stoat

Just don’t send anything that can be considered hate speech, or you’ll have some jack-boots kicking in YOUR door!


49 posted on 09/30/2007 6:09:05 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: af_vet_rr
The media will not risk there lives, ...

They would definitely be risking their lives. Just a few days ago there were pics of a Japanese journalist shot down in the street and reports that a Swedish journalist had also been shot dead. If there has been any strong protest from those governments I haven't heard of it yet. These thugs don't fear anything and it seems they have little reason to.

50 posted on 09/30/2007 6:09:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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