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American Muslims Strive to Become Model Citizens
Spiegel Online ^ | September 13, 2007 | Marc Hujer and Daniel Steinvorth

Posted on 10/01/2007 3:35:30 AM PDT by america4vr

After the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Muslim immigrants were seen as a potential threat in the United States. They have since become model citizens -- and now they want a greater say in politics. Why shouldn't we wear head scarves?

It is almost 1 p.m., time for noon prayers, and Abdul Malik Mujahid, 55, is in his office on the second floor of Chicago's Downtown Islamic Center, preparing for his sermon. On his desk are a Koran, a pad of paper and a Blackberry. A telephone rings in the next room as people hurry through the corridors.

Soon Mujahid takes the elevator to the fourth floor, carrying the text of his sermon under his arm. The 200 men waiting for him in the prayer room are dressed in jeans and in suits. They have slipped away from their offices for lunch, removed their shoes and staked out their spots on the carpet. Now they want to hear Mujahid's Friday sermon.

He nods to the congregation. Mujahid is a short, elegant man. His gray beard is carefully trimmed and he has a smooth voice. He turns toward Mecca and recites the Fatiha, the opening Sura in the Koran. Then he quickly gets to his point: "My brothers, we can all contribute to reducing our energy consumption," he says. "That must be your very own jihad, your fight against global warming." When he speaks he sounds like Al Gore, the former vice president of the United States and the man who is now leading America in the battle against climate change. "This wonderful country," says Mujahid, "depends on its immigrants. Show that you are good Americans and good Muslims."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: americanmuslim; americanmuslims; assimilation; europe; integration; islam; islamiclaw; islaminamerica; moderateislam; moderatemuslims; muslims; puffpiece; racism
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1 posted on 10/01/2007 3:35:34 AM PDT by america4vr
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ping for future.


2 posted on 10/01/2007 3:37:52 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: america4vr
Hate crimes against Muslims jumped by more than 1,600 percent in the following year.

Probably went from 2 to 32, in a country of 300 million.

3 posted on 10/01/2007 3:38:16 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: america4vr

Of course, this is Der Speigel, which paints our troops as war criminals.

This is all BS.


4 posted on 10/01/2007 3:43:46 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: america4vr

The part in question here is what model are they following? Since the child molester walked the earth, there has been only one allegiance that a muslim will die for, the cult of islam. This is the same cult that teaches that non-cult folks are given two choices, become slaves or die. This is a totally unacceptable belief system in thw 21st century. I suggest that followers of islam also be given two choices; leave this continent or leave this earth.


5 posted on 10/01/2007 3:45:23 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: america4vr

Stiving to be model citizens huh? More like taking over this country, starting with the schools. Demanding foot baths, prayer times, controlling the food, no jello, or bbq, and holidays.

Be afraid of any Muzzie, be very afraid.


6 posted on 10/01/2007 3:46:13 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: america4vr
"They have since become model citizens -- and now they want a greater say in politics. Why shouldn't we wear head scarves?"

Oh yes, that's what a "model citizen" does, trash the American way of life and try force it to become the same as the crap hole they came from. what a joke this article is. Since 9/11, "muslim "model citizens have been committing- or attempting to- acts of jihad at an alarmingly increased rate, 3200% !!!!!

7 posted on 10/01/2007 3:49:02 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Sherman Logan
Probably went from 2 to 32, in a country of 300 million.

You're probably right that the increase is insignificant relatively, which is why the author left out the basis for the statistic and just cited the percentage.

Then there's also the fact that sensitivity toward hate crimes toward Muslims probably increased and many crimes involving Muslim victims may have been classified as a hate crime today, whereas previously it may have not been.

However, given the civil rights record in Muslim dominated countries, it should always be noted in any article about hate crimes involving Muslim victims in the United States, that Muslim terrorists commit hate crimes against non-Muslim civilians on a daily basis throughout the world without there being any repercussions for the perpetrators, and often state sponsored hate crimes in those nations is recognized by parades and celebrations.

As a demographic, Muslims have a long way to go before they can fully rehabilitate their public image, and just being model citizens is NOT sufficient. If Muslims want to fix their public image, they have to start by being the first in line to openly and rigorously reject Extremist and violent Islam. Until they do this as a group, merely pretending to civil activism isn't going to do much.

8 posted on 10/01/2007 3:51:19 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Sherman Logan
"How 9/11 changed America: In statistics".

Around 470 soon after the attacks and seems to have stabilized at around 150. Still small, but higher than it was before the attacks.

9 posted on 10/01/2007 3:51:21 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
"Mujahid"= one who fights in a jihad, modern use for "Muslim guerilla insurgent".

The plural is "mujahideen".

All muslims in the west are mujahideen.

This Mujahid fellow is brazen enough to adopt a name descriptive of his role in life.

They're a cancer. Deport them.

AV

10 posted on 10/01/2007 3:54:35 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit
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To: Sherman Logan

Also, while the United States has 300 million people, and 150-470 people out of a population of 300 million is tiny, you could also write that the Muslim population of the United States is around 3%, or about 9 million. So, using that, you could write 150-450 crimes out of a population of 9 million, which remains a minuscule amount, but not quite as small as writing 150-450 out of 300 million.


11 posted on 10/01/2007 3:56:14 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: america4vr; dennisw; Yehuda; Lijahsbubbe
When he speaks he sounds like Al Gore...

If that doesn't raise a red flag, nothing will.

12 posted on 10/01/2007 3:56:26 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Sherman Logan
Hate crimes against Muslims jumped by more than 1,600 percent in the following year

That just means more fabricated complaints were made.

13 posted on 10/01/2007 3:59:07 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: america4vr
Well, I'm all for any one, any group striving to be model citizens of the USA..
I would never harbor any preconceived notions about any group who are deemed model citizens but always the lingering feelings of ambiguity make the issue of Muslims as model citizens a point of contention.

I'm not totally convinced as to what their ultimate aspirations are. Just as Jews are portrayed as being duplicitous about their loyalties to Israel versus the USA, so, too, Muslims might always be regarded with suspicion as a fifth column.

I don't know. The lack of any emphatic, enthusiastic denouncement of terror, the ubiquitous statement of but, under certain circumstances that always rears its ugly head whenever a Muslim condemns terror but never does so unequivocally, without qualification, remains a sore point in embracing Muslims as fellow citizens.

Do they really support the concept of democracy, of religious tolerance towards others? Their record across the globe proves otherwise.

14 posted on 10/01/2007 4:00:00 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

When all things are considered I’d just as soon not have a mooselimb living next door, or even in the same city.
Especially when you consider the percentage of terrorists that are mooselimb (nearly %100), as opposed to say Hindus or Christians where there is nearly % 0.


15 posted on 10/01/2007 4:01:02 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Nathan Zachary
How is dressing up in a headscarf trashing the American way of life? Would agree that people should dress more American. But this is not only a fault of Muslim immigrants. It is largely South Asians who keep their 'ethnic' dress instead of using American/Western attire. Meanwhile, immigrants from Eastern Europe have been donning headscarves since the late 1800's.

It would be trashing the American way of life to insist that American have to put on headscarves. However, individuals have the right to dress as they choose, as long as it is legal.

(P.S. They should not use headscarves, just arguing with the idea that it is trashing the American way of life).

16 posted on 10/01/2007 4:03:17 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: america4vr
"Show that you are good Americans and good Muslims."

Not possible to be a member of a totalitarian fascist death cult and an American citizen.

17 posted on 10/01/2007 4:03:49 AM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: coconutt2000
When it comes down to where the rubber meets the road, all Muzzies will stick together against the infidel. No amount of image change will ever convince me that the bottom line for them is convert or die is not their ultimate goal.
18 posted on 10/01/2007 4:06:18 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: america4vr
Kudos on a balanced post (this is an opinion, people--to 'all').
19 posted on 10/01/2007 4:07:04 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Coldwater Creek

It is early, not enought coffee yet.


20 posted on 10/01/2007 4:08:35 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: america4vr
Model citizens, strive to assimilate. They Learn the culture and the history of their new land, they show respect and allegiance.

So far the model muslims I come in contact with and see in media demand we conform to them:

1)Foot baths

2)Head scarfs and facial covering in photo id's

3)Isolated prayer rooms and breaks

4) Refusal to perform jobs because of pork, seeing eye dogs or suspicion of alcohol ( either consumption or possession)

5)attempts to bring sharia law to certain communities and areas

Yeah Model Citizens

21 posted on 10/01/2007 4:12:14 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: america4vr
"This wonderful country," says Mujahid, "depends on its immigrants. Show that you are good Americans and good Muslims."

Never mind that. What did he say in Arabic?

22 posted on 10/01/2007 4:14:39 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Food imported from China = "Cesspool + Flavor-Straw")
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To: coconutt2000
"If Muslims want to fix their public image, they have to start by being the first in line to openly and rigorously reject Extremist and violent Islam. Until they do this as a group, merely pretending to civil activism isn't going to do much."

If they want to fix their public image, they are going to have to write a new koran, and invent a prophet who wasn't a mass murdering, baby raping pedophile, thief, and rapist.

23 posted on 10/01/2007 4:23:43 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: america4vr

“He nods to the congregation./.../ He turns toward Mecca and recites the Fatiha, the opening Sura in the Koran. Then he quickly gets to his point: “My brothers, we can all contribute to reducing our energy consumption,” he says. “That must be your very own jihad, your fight against global warming.”

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

(wipes a tear from eye) Sorry if I cannot believe this made up story. This is too...too...PC. The religion of peace is only concerned with a harmless global warming sermon?
1) either the reporter just made this up. or,
2) The sermon was for the reporter’s benefit with the real sermon delivered in arabic after the fool left.

This is just too happy-happy-joy-joy to be believed.
I read the barf alerts here, but this is projectile quality!


24 posted on 10/01/2007 4:26:09 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: america4vr
I'm not totally convinced as to what their ultimate aspirations are."

Try reading their Koran and hadith. Listen to what's being preached in Mosks, read the declaration issued by CAIR.

And if you still aren't convinced, God help you.

25 posted on 10/01/2007 4:28:17 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Cyclops08

It’s quite funny indeed as it is a topic of their sermon directed only for the coterie of FBI agents scattered throughout. They know very well that the slightest inflammatory rhetoric secures them a one way ticket back to the middle ages courtesy of the US Govt.


26 posted on 10/01/2007 4:36:46 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

To quote David Dvorkin once again: “If Western civilization has made one single important contribution to the world, it is the concept of individuality: the idea that a man is what he chooses to be, not what his community ordains him to be; that each of us represents only himself and is not a mere cell in some familial or ethnic organism.

from “Why I am not a Muslim..” here...

http://www.islam-watch.org/Tariq/Why-I-Am-Not-Muslim-Bold-Brilliant-Blasphemous.htm


27 posted on 10/01/2007 4:44:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: america4vr

Yeah, model citizens...of what country...?


28 posted on 10/01/2007 4:45:48 AM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: america4vr

all I want to know is how many of them enlisted in the U.S. military since 9/11...


29 posted on 10/01/2007 4:48:10 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
I meant it tongue-in-cheek and also as a matter of making my comments resonate
on its own merit above and beyond what they would do to us if only they had the chance. I am more than cognizant of the reality that these people will not consider themselves fulfilled until all infidels are either killed or converted, and the US government turned into a Caliphate of the West.
30 posted on 10/01/2007 4:48:17 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

I’m striving to become a model Muslim.

...ah, miss...carnitas, please. Oh, and another Cadillac Margarita. Thanks.


31 posted on 10/01/2007 4:52:22 AM PDT by RichInOC ("Stampeding hogs." "That's not much of a crime." "Through the Grand Mosque?" "Kinky. Sign here.")
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To: america4vr

“they know that the slightest inflammatory rhetoric secures them a one way ticket back...”—
Oh really??? Where have YOU been living??


32 posted on 10/01/2007 5:04:41 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: PGalt
If Western civilization has made one single important contribution to the world, it is the concept of individuality: ... that each of us represents only himself and is not a mere cell in some familial or ethnic organism.

I (partially) disagree with this, if carried to its logical conclusion.

I am an individual, but I am also a member of my family and country. I choose to put the welfare of these entities above my own in certain circumstances.

Any society in which all members viewed themselves only as individuals could not survice for long, as none of those individuals would be willing to fight and die for the society, and it would be conquered by a society with less extreme individualist views.

33 posted on 10/01/2007 5:08:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Of course. Anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collectives are the clear and present danger to our country, our family, our selves.


34 posted on 10/01/2007 5:13:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: america4vr
Do they really support the concept of democracy, of religious tolerance towards others?

Democracy and religious tolerance are antithetical to Islam. Islam, with Shari'a law, is governance unto itself. All Muslims must strive via jihad to establish total Islamic belief in their community. Non muslims are infidels to be slain or subjugated; peaceful coexistence is NOT an option for a Kuran believing Muslim. Sunnis Muslims must slay Shiite Muslims, and vice versa, since the opposite members are heretics.

The patience of the Muslims is tempered by their escalating "reasonable" demands for capitulation, e.g., head scarves followed by full body and face burkas, elimination of pork products, foot baths, community calls to prayer over public address systems, and finally adoption of Shari'a.

Muslims do not adapt to the community. It is the Terminator Cult - you cannot use logic or reason with it, and it will not stop until you and your heathen culture are DEAD!

35 posted on 10/01/2007 5:27:40 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Also, while the United States has 300 million people, and 150-470 people out of a population of 300 million is tiny, you could also write that the Muslim population of the United States is around 3%, or about 9 million. So, using that, you could write 150-450 crimes out of a population of 9 million, which remains a minuscule amount, but not quite as small as writing 150-450 out of 300 million.

That logic makes no sense. Why only 9 million? The constituents of the group include those of the general population as well.

Overall, this hate-crime figure pales in comparison to what the Muslims have in store, and written in stone, in places where they have reproduced enough to become a majority.

36 posted on 10/01/2007 5:35:28 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Make that "...the Muslims have in store for us infidels..."
37 posted on 10/01/2007 5:36:30 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: america4vr

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27293_IBD-_The_Islamist_Head_Fake&only

From LGF re: Holy Land Trial . Very interesting read. Shows how they work with deception to ingratiate themselves with US Gov, politics etc.
This link includes government wiretapes that uncovered a lot of their plans.


38 posted on 10/01/2007 5:43:46 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (My Son is My Hero!!!)
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To: MarineMom613

First of all, your son as your hero makes you a very special dad.

Thank you very much for the link to LGF.
Believe me, nothing in the article surprises me in the least as I harbor no illusions whatsoever regarding the mentality and thought processes those of this ilk are beholden to.


39 posted on 10/01/2007 5:57:45 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr

You forgot the “Hurl Alert”!


40 posted on 10/01/2007 5:57:51 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: america4vr

Poor things. They just want what everyone else wants. A home, a lawn, a white picket fence and all Christians and Jews dead.


41 posted on 10/01/2007 6:05:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Redleg Duke
LOL. ROTF.. At first iIdidn't get it but then it hit me. You got me. ha ha. Yes, indeed, if ever a story deserved a 'hurl alert status' this is it especially when you consider the source for the article.

But you know, several times in the past when posting bona fide 'hurl alerts', describing and tagging it as such I've had it removed by moderators/others for whatever reason. But you are definitely right on about it.

42 posted on 10/01/2007 6:07:46 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: america4vr
They know very well that the slightest inflammatory rhetoric secures them a one way ticket back to the middle ages courtesy of the US Govt.

Huh? CAIR gets lunch in the White House.

43 posted on 10/01/2007 6:15:31 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: america4vr

Entire title of this post is an oxymoron.....


44 posted on 10/01/2007 6:17:10 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ModelBreaker
I am sorry for not qualifying that comment in the manner it deserved.

Yes, you are quite correct to express incredulity in regards to what I said, especially in lightof what has transpired since 9-11.

I meant to say they may have chosen sermon subject matter such as global warming for fear they might attract the attention of the government.

45 posted on 10/01/2007 6:24:32 AM PDT by america4vr
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To: kellynla
"all I want to know is how many of them enlisted in the U.S. military since 9/11..."

The most desirable answer to your question is, zero.

They are a fifth-column. We do not want them in the military at all.

AV

46 posted on 10/01/2007 7:50:38 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit
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To: Atomic Vomit

“US Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., whose roughly 4,000 cadets include 32 Muslims, 12 of whom are foreign students.”

Apparently, the US military does not agree with your assessment. An education at West Point is paid for with taxpayer money, and paid back by mandatory military service.


47 posted on 10/01/2007 8:05:45 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: america4vr
One of the most important questions, is one that is mostly ignored by the proponents of things multi-culture. It is all in the numbers. Certainly if one group is only one in fifty persons, they may effect certain rules and customs in a minuscule way.

If that group has a much larger effect that their numbers reflect- watch out. Tragically the real test, is one that would be enacted if this group became a majority. Even to some extent a much larger minority.

How would these persons THEN, behave toward non-muslims? There are virtually few instances where such people will still declare the multi-cultural dogma, that all cultures are equal.

We are seeing a lie. If the proof comes that it is a lie, then it will be too late.

48 posted on 10/01/2007 8:27:41 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: america4vr
“Why shouldn’t we wear head scarves? “

i think they should. Makes them easier to identify.

49 posted on 10/01/2007 8:48:40 AM PDT by monday
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To: All

To become a model American citizen, muslims must reject the koran, as it is a war manual that is directly at odds with a free people and a free will...


50 posted on 10/01/2007 9:34:27 AM PDT by Maverick68
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