The damage surely won't be any worse than what's happening to "environmentally sensitive areas" these days without a fence.
Posted on 10/01/2007 2:00:56 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
Feds reveal most descriptive details for a border wall, triggering another uproar in deep South Texas
For the past year, South Texas officials and residents have seethed over federal plans to build a wall along the Rio Grande and the U.S. border with Mexico in 2008. They also complained that federal officials were keeping locals in the dark about exactly where the fencing would go and its design.
Last week, the government removed the veil of uncertainty, disclosing the most detailed descriptions to date about the fence's design, proposed locations, construction schedule and potential environmental impact.
According to documents posted in the Federal Register, the fence would be at least 16 feet high and 3 to 6 feet underground, "aesthetically pleasing," semitransparent and capable of withstanding cutting or penetration — as well as the crash of a 10,000-pound vehicle (about the size of an armored Humvee) traveling 40 mph. It would be built in 21 segments totaling 70 miles in length between Roma and Brownsville.
If federal officials approve the plan, construction of the barrier could begin next spring and continue through 2008.
Building fences means building roads, lighting and other infrastructure, too. That requires clearing 60-foot-wide swaths of land and affecting more than 500 acres during construction, mostly along levees maintained by the International Boundary and Water Commission in the Rio Grande flood plain. However, some portions will encroach on private lands and might also enter environmentally sensitive and federally protected terrain, according to the plans.
Opponents who live and work in one of illegal immigration's busiest corridors have reacted with a mix of anger, frustration and a stiffened resolve to fight the fence.
Brownsville Mayor Patricio Ahumada Jr. said Wednesday that the city is considering filing a lawsuit to block the construction.
"We're opposed to a fence as a community," said Ahumada, adding that city officials will meet Tuesday with attorneys who specialize in environmental law.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Customs and Border Protection released the maps of the proposed fence locations and other documents as they began an environmental impact study that will allow public comment through mid-October. Most fence segments will be near ports of entry and cities such as McAllen, Brownsville, Harlingen and Rio Grande City.
Critics concede that there is a need for tightened border security but contend that fencing isn't nearly as effective as more officers and more technology, such as sensors and cameras. Moreover, they say a border fence will harm the economy, quash property rights and cut off farmers and ranchers from the lifeblood of the Rio Grande, as well as send an unfriendly message to their neighbors in Mexico. The county is Texas' biggest trading partner.
They also fear that a fence will destroy vast habitat and wildlife, which the federal government has spent decades and millions of dollars preserving. Tens of thousands of riverfront acres are protected, feeding a growing and lucrative ecotourism industry.
Nancy Brown, a public outreach specialist with the Santa Ana National Wildlife Refuge near Alamo, said she remained hopeful that ongoing talks with customs and border protection officials will yield fence design and placements that are wildlife-friendly.
"We're biologists, and it's our job to protect wildlife," Brown said. "Putting in a pedestrian fence that is 16 feet high and wiping out 60 feet of brush, yes, that could be harmful. Is it going to be? We can't say for sure yet."
In 2006, Congress approved fencing along 700 miles of the border with Mexico, and President Bush signed the bill into law. Only 370 miles will be actual fence — the rest will be vehicle barriers and a ''virtual'' fence of agents, sensors, cameras and other technology.
"For the first time in the history of our country, we have the national political will to secure our nation's borders, and with that, we are working toward providing our agents on the front line with the tools they need to accomplish their mission," said Michael Friel of U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Critics acknowledge that their opposition puts them at odds with a congressional mandate to secure the southern border. But some charge that the fight against illegal immigration is caught up in concerns about the threat of terrorism, resulting in a border fence idea that is an ineffective response to both.
"This is a horrible reaction by interior America and their legislators," Ahumada said. "They want to see a fence. Well, put a freaking fence in their back yard. Why should we pay the price because they're overreacting?"
Amid the clamor of opposition, supporters of a fence are relatively quiet, giving at least the appearance that they are greatly outnumbered in the Valley.
Joe and Sharon Metz, who farm on about 1,100 riverfront acres near the tiny community of Abram, said they and their neighbors overwhelmingly welcome a fence.
They are fed up, they said, with illegal immigrants darting through their neighborhoods and their yards at all hours of the night. "It just gets really old," Joe Metz said.
16’ ... No where near high enough ...
Having spent time on the border in an LEO capacity I must ask did they budget monies to provide security for the workers and their equipment 24/7 and if they take fire from across the river do we shoot back?
Ahumada needs to be shipped to Mexico himself - he’s nothing more than a shill for the cartel!
I would prefer "imposing and terrifying."
Last time I was in Mexico City, all the nice houses were surrounded by high cement walls with broken, ragged bottles cemented into the tops.
The damage surely won't be any worse than what's happening to "environmentally sensitive areas" these days without a fence.
“We’re opposed to a fence as a community,” said Ahumada, adding that city officials will meet Tuesday with attorneys who specialize in environmental law.
versus
US Constitution, secure borders, and National Defense attorneys.
Popcorn anyone while illegals keep on coming?
16’ is ok if the fence has a 16’ deep buried base, at least 3’ thick, 2’ spikes imbedded in the side facing mexico, glass shards imbedded in the top and razor wire strung over the glass shards for the entire length of the border.
How can the DOT put in 100’s of miles of sound fences around the interstates every week, but we can not get a mile of immigration fence built?
......Bob
Thank you Duncan Hunter ping!
Good fences make good neighbors
Border fence nearly doubles---LA Times Sept 29, 2007
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After reporting sluggish progress last month, U.S. officials announce that the stretch of barriers has grown to 145 miles.
I suppose the laws of this country are just helpful suggestions. If you like the law and you “feel like it” by all means go ahead and follow it. I thought the law was for a double-fence and I don’t recall that a certain length was to be just technology and vehicle barriers.
* In a search for “Duncan Hunters Fence bill passed”, this comes up 3rd on the search:http://www.beachblogger.net/bwtm/index.php?title=Hunter%2C_Duncan_Lee
This doesn’t seem to be a Democratic hit, smells Ron Paulish and is made to look like a Wikipedia article. Pinged you because I thought you might want to know.
“In 2006, Congress approved fencing along 700 miles of the border with Mexico, and President Bush signed the bill into law. Only 370 miles will be actual fence — the rest will be vehicle barriers and a ‘’virtual’’ fence of agents, sensors, cameras and other technology.”
I think the Hunter bill is very specific about the type of fence (double with a road in between) and the number of miles it is to cover. IIRC, the above is in opposition to what the bill requires.
Yeah! Thanks... I was just saying...I asked pissant cause I’m too busy to look it up at the moment...but I’ll have to go find out. If true, Hunter must be livid.
I pinged you, but you were already here and noticed the same thing.....heh :)
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