Posted on 10/02/2007 12:51:24 PM PDT by Squidpup
‘Islamic culture’ is an oxymoron.
Europe has a long, long history of pogroms and I suspect that their true naure will come out in a few years. I am not at all convinced that Islam will take over Europe.
We are seeing the public pronouncements, not the private ones, which are more extensive and most likely a lot harsher.
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Nope. Muslims are too damn dumb. Not enough of them either. China, India, South America. Those are the emerging superpowers of this century.
The only Science articles from the entire Middle East that I have ever seen/read/referenced have been from Israel. The intellectual output of Israel outpaces the ENTIRE ISLAMIC world.
A half billion people who expend the majority of their energy keeping the other half billion in reproductive slavery and intellectual stagnation; and they wonder why the rest of the world has left them so very far behind?
Mainland Europe is ahead of the curve relative to the UK and US.
Islam is definitely on the march in this country, helped by 95% of liberals and about 50% of “conservatives.
Well said.
“Superpower”??
They ride camels, fight like cowards hiding behind women and children, and follow a cult called Islam. Hardly a “superpower”.
Islam as a governmental force was only superior to the tribalism that it superseded. Its selling point was that it was a more efficient way of doing business. It succeeded only as long as it was a superior way, and was about on a par with feudal Europe as far as it went.
However, while Europe continued to evolve better forms of government and management, a Muslim scholar by the name of al-Ghizali (spelling is important, as there were several with similar names) in the late 12th and early 13th Centuries, created a fundamentalist philosophy which ended Islam’s intellectual development.
While in Persia, as a xenophobic response to the threat of foreign invasion, he proposed that the only knowledge of importance was to be found in the Koran, and that all other knowledge was inherently evil, as it distracted people from studying the Koran.
Thereafter, in a slow progression from Persia, all progress in the arts and sciences in the Ummah started to die. Ironically, the last major repositories of classical and at the time modern learning were kept in the far reaches of the Muslim empire, in Spain. And these libraries fell to the advancing Christians, where they reignited learning in Europe and helped end the Dark Ages.
As the Ottoman Empire withered, finally collapsing after World War I, only then was the beginning of the end of the Muslim Dark Ages.
However, paradoxically, Muslims still pretend that Islam is a better way, as it was over primitive tribalism. But even to the poor and ignorant, this is not the case. So Islam has become dependent on coercion and violence to maintain its hold, instead of the offer of “a better way.” And if they lose this hold over its followers, they leave it in droves.
The flood of Muslims leaving Islam deeply concerns their leaders who know of it, and they are at a loss to explain it.
But Islam is not a system that will eventually win out over modernity. For this reason, there is a good chance that eventually a movement will arise that will blatantly disregard the primitive and violent aspects of Islam, and reinterpret it in modern terms. Though they will be bitterly opposed by fundamentalist Muslims, the rationalizations will have tremendous appeal to the average Muslim.
This is the “have your cake and eat it, too” scenario, in which the more repugnant elements of their religion are discarded in favor of practical and modern reformation.
An Islamic Union has never been achieved in all of Islams history. I would bet on being hit by lightning 100 times in a day before I would bet on any Islamic Union.
It is coded in their own scriptures that there will be only one true branch of Islam in the end, meaning that an Islamic Union is impossible to any Muslim that believes in the Koran.
Islamic Union?
Nah....
Must be a big untapped market for boxed camel crap. Who knew.
“The flood of Muslims leaving Islam deeply concerns their leaders who know of it, and they are at a loss to explain it.”
According to my sources (which are in the field) the flood is substantial.
If they intend to be an economic power they will have to learn to mass produce something besides hate and discontent.
Is the author saying this cancer will devour itself or is he trying to separate mainstream islam from mainstream islam? Mainstream islam is the head chopping, throat cutting, totalitarian manifestation from Hell and has been since its inception.
Actually the Koran instructs permitting Christians and Jews to worship their own religion under Sharia Law. However they must pay steep taxes (50% or so), and are to be treated less than dogs in the legal systems.
To describe an “Islamic Union” as ‘multicultural’ is to completely fail to understand what Islam is trying to do. They don’t want to get along. They don’t want to live in peace and tolerate others not like them.
In Islam there are two kinds of people:
1. potential converts who should be taught and converted
2. infidels who should be killed
There is no 3.
Conservatism tends to take over in the long run. In periods of prosperity created by conservatism, liberalism rises up.. then that civilization deteriorates and fails to reproduce and is taken over by a more conservative ideology or foreigners.
The most successful Islamic nations are extremely conservative by our standards. Eg.. Saudi Arabia with no tax on income, dividends etc.. And ultra strict marriage laws. Those rich saudis buying our assets up, and funding global jihad are rich because there is no taxes. Sure the original money came from oil, but in the long run what matters is compounding growth.
Let me give you an example 2 men start with 10 million dollars in an inheritance. Both are great investors and manage to get a return of 12% for the next 40 years. 40 years being a blip on the radar in a civilization’s life. The first man is a Saudi with no taxes.. the second an American where they take 1/3rd of the return he makes. Meaning he averages 8%. So 8% versus 12% not that big of a difference right?
After 40 years the Saudi will have 930 million.
After 40 years the American will have 210 million.
Population growth is the same thing, just over longer time frames. Thats one big reason they are immigrating here, not us immigrating there. If we still had our high fertility from around the year 1900.. we’d be filling up Mexico and South America with yankees.
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