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"Islam is emerging as the cultural and economic Superpower of the 21st Century"
Jihad Watch ^ | September 30, 2007 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 10/02/2007 12:51:24 PM PDT by Squidpup

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To: Squidpup

That’s because everything offends them and they expect everyone else to accomodate them and no tolerance for anyone else.


41 posted on 10/02/2007 1:52:38 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Richardson/Paul '08 - Sometimes this stuff just writes itself.)
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To: Squidpup
Last I checked, islamics don't really manufacture anything.

Show me an islamic-made automobile.

Okay then, how about an appliance, like a microwave oven or a toaster?

Bicycle?

42 posted on 10/02/2007 1:57:29 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: Squidpup
From the "About" page on the website:

About The Article Islam: The 21st Century Superpower and the Emergence of an Islamic Union

The purpose of this article is to introduce the hypothesis that Islam is growing demographically, economically and culturally into the 21st Century Superpower. The engine for this development is the economic, cultural, demographic, and theological strength of the global Islamic community that will more than likely lead to the development of a global Islamic Union.

Steven Watts is the sole author of this publication. He is currently completing his doctorate in Intercultural Studies at Fuller Theological Seminary where his dissertation is focused on studying the development of the Multicultural Corporation and the connection between corporate profits, poverty and corruption in the country of Chad. A central part of his research has been the study of Islamic Economics and how Islamic models of stewardship can be applied to managing natural, intellectual, and cultural capital and resources in the fight against poverty and corruption. The arguments presented herein are based on three years of direct research in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Middle East conducted by Steven in support of his doctorate. This article represents preliminary findings in support of this research and supports a core part of his hypothesis that collaboration between multinational corporations, community and theological leaders is the only way that poverty and corruption will ever truly be eradicated from the landscape of human history.

Steven Watts is just another typical, deluded, intellectual elitist moron. Hey Steven, in case you haven't noticed, the influence of Islam has been declining for the last 600 years.

What an idiot.

43 posted on 10/02/2007 1:57:47 PM PDT by Left2Right ("Democracy isn't perfect, but other governments are so much worse (especially Iran's)")
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To: Left2Right; All

Good catch and interesting range of comments from everyone!


44 posted on 10/02/2007 2:01:39 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup
"Islam is emerging as the cultural and economic Superpower of the 21st Century."

That is to say, if the 21st Century were just like the 7th Century!

45 posted on 10/02/2007 2:04:11 PM PDT by Jagman (I drank Frank Rabelais under the table!)
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To: Squidpup
this is a laughable suggestion, unless one redefines what a "superpower" is -- the best Islam could hope to achieve would be mere shadow of present day superpowers, a pygmy compared to any Western, Chinese , Indian or Japanese superpower by any yardstick you want to use except perhaps its level of intolerance and arrogance.

Sadly, Islam reached its zenith a thousand years ago and hasn't advanced much in the interim, and at present has *NOTHING* going for it except for demographics and a temporary emhancement in the value of a natural resource called oil which happens to be found under the ground they live on right now.

other than luck, having four wives and being a bit more bloodthirsty in forcing their medieval beliefs on others, they don't have much going for them it seems to me.

sorry. luck just isn't enough to get into the superpower game.

46 posted on 10/02/2007 2:11:38 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: nikos1121
Islam is no more a superpower or even a religion as far as I am concerned. It similar to communish, nazism etc.

Their power comes from two things: they are willing to be aggressive, and the West no longer has the will

47 posted on 10/02/2007 2:17:46 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Popocatapetl
Thereafter, in a slow progression from Persia, all progress in the arts and sciences in the Ummah started to die. Ironically, the last major repositories of classical and at the time modern learning were kept in the far reaches of the Muslim empire, in Spain. And these libraries fell to the advancing Christians, where they reignited learning in Europe and helped end the Dark Ages.

It wasn't the Islamic libraries as much as a decreasing threat of Islamic piracy. Constantinople retained all of Greek learning, and once trade could resume, those books could go to Venice, where new printing presses would make copies for all of Europe.

The Muslims never had much interest in Greek philosophy or literature. They translated a few works relating to science, mathematics, and medicine. Once trade could resume, people could get those works in the original Greek

48 posted on 10/02/2007 2:24:18 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Squidpup

Economic?

If you subtract the oil they happen to live above, Muslims’ GDP per head is approximately the lowest in the world, save Sub-Saharan Africa.


49 posted on 10/02/2007 2:46:13 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: Squidpup

Economic Superpower?

If you subtract the oil they happen to live above, Muslims’ GDP per head is approximately the lowest in the world, save Sub-Saharan Africa.


50 posted on 10/02/2007 2:46:39 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: JohnnyP

I’m pretty sure muslims couldn’t make a transistor radio without importing every single machine from the West.


51 posted on 10/02/2007 2:48:44 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mitt bit the apple. Hillary will stuff it down your throat!)
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To: RightWhale
I agree. The West is again notoriously complacent in the face of mortal threats as we were in the 1930's. Yet, once awakened, the giant that is still America *can* deliver a fury to the very inner sanctum of the kaaba.

I say *can* because after so many years of emasculating liberalism I wonder if we will.

52 posted on 10/02/2007 3:03:35 PM PDT by PeterFinn
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To: SandRat; ExTexasRedhead; Alouette; SJackson; river rat

If an Islamic Union does develope, get ready for World War III, with atomic weapons. The Islamic World doesn’t want peace, justice, or good will. Only destruction and nihilism.


53 posted on 10/02/2007 3:37:31 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: N3WBI3

“wait until (a) Oil runs dry or (b) A feasible substitute is found.. What will the basis of their financial prowess be then?” .................. Opium,Pot just a couple of cash crops?


54 posted on 10/02/2007 3:41:32 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: chilepepper
this is a laughable suggestion, unless one redefines what a "superpower" is -- the best Islam could hope to achieve would be mere shadow of present day superpowers,

I remember in the mid-90s, when people were peeing themselves over how Japan's economy was sounder than ours and they were going to be the next superpower....

55 posted on 10/02/2007 4:11:19 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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56 posted on 10/02/2007 4:22:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Squidpup

btt


57 posted on 10/02/2007 4:45:19 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SauronOfMordor
Their power comes from two things: they are willing to be aggressive, and the West no longer has the will

You said a mouthful.

So long as this situation continues, the West is in danger.

And I see nothing that indicates the situation is about to change.

The Islamic "will" to assert itself and challenge the West trumps the West's lack of will to defend its culture, and our inability to use our physical weapons against Islam. Quite frankly, at this stage of history, their "weapons" seem to be more powerful than ours.

Nearly everywhere that Islam chooses to "push against" Western culture and values, the West does little to push back and assert such culture and values against the foul values of Islam. Indeed, to the contrary, we bend over backwards to accomodate them and assuage their offended sensibilities.

We will see at least one or two nations of Europe fall to Islam before 2040. The Europeans have lost the will, and no longer have the demographic manpower (i.e., a supply of white/Euro/Christian males of fighting age willing to defend their ground against Islam) to mount a counter-challenge.

By the, those remaining nations of Western Europe will realize that they, too, must fight back or fall beneath Islam's boot. But by then they, too, may have become so weakened by demographics (of aging populations unable or no longer willing to resist) that it will be too late for them as well.

It will take the fall of Europe for the remainder of the English-speaking world to understand the crisis we face.

Perhaps by then we will realize that there can be a future for the West, or for Islam - but NOT for both. Then, and ONLY then, will the West begin to comprehend that to secure its own future will require a struggle that will make all previous conflicts pale by comparison. And by that time, there will emerge only a single objective: to win - by any means and at all costs. And those costs will be gruesome.

Robert Spencer is dead on when he says
"While those who know how Sharia institutionalizes the oppression of women and non-Muslims may recoil at this prospect, Watts is certainly being a realist given the world situation and the abysmal failure of the West so far to respond to the full reality of the Islamic supremacist challenge in all its dimensions"

Islam handed us its calling card on September 11, 2001. Since then we toppled the Taliban in Afghanistan, and since then, the "legitimate" government of Afghanistan is now making noise about re-admitting the Taliban into that very government once again.

Since then, we toppled Saddam, and allowed the Iraqis to form a new "democratic" governmet - which promptly wrote into its constitution that Islam would be the state religion. And we now see reports detailing how the Christian Iraqis who are still in that country are being persecuted, simply for _being_ Christians.

Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.

The "boss" is NOT the regimes we toppled in the MidEast; it is Islam itself.

The "regime" that we must rid the world of.... is Allah's.

As of yet, I have seen NOTHING that indicates to me that the leaders of the West understand this, or are willing to confront Islam head-on.

When will this change?

- John

58 posted on 10/02/2007 10:17:24 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Fishrrman

Very good comments.

So then, it is a spiritual war we are in.


59 posted on 10/02/2007 11:03:02 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Recovering Hermit

Islam will get to the moon by the twenty fifth century.


60 posted on 10/02/2007 11:07:29 PM PDT by ashtanga
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