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FReep This Poll! Should The U.S. Government Employ Private Security Firms Like Blackwater?
North County Times/The Californian ^ | October 2, 2007 | North County Times/The Californian

Posted on 10/02/2007 8:23:50 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: humint

Any job for which you can find a listing in the Yellow Pages should NOT be done by government.

You need security?
Hire a security firm.

US Marines are trained to kill people and break things, NOT to provide security for dignitaries of whatever stripe.


21 posted on 10/02/2007 9:16:54 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: org.whodat

Let me give you some food for thought.

Every weekend some Washington politician is in Bagdad for a photo op. Remember John McCain claiming you could walk around over there without extra protection. He was lying or as he put it, he misspoke.

I can’t remember a war where politicians went visiting almost weekly for photo ops. This stupid action underminds the war effort. So as long as you have stupid politicians, we need extra protection for them and it shouldn’t be our troops.


22 posted on 10/02/2007 9:17:52 PM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: DogByte6RER

They shouldn’t employ them, they should give them a Letter of Marque.


23 posted on 10/02/2007 9:19:04 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: USMA '71

“Why should “diplomatic personnel” get bodyguard treatment?”

lol, Because our enemies want to kill them and their families if they could!


24 posted on 10/02/2007 9:21:00 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Redbob

Uh...so who are those tough-looking fellers who guard all of our embassies? :p


25 posted on 10/02/2007 9:28:41 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: DogByte6RER

So what?


26 posted on 10/02/2007 9:28:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Redbob
Any job for which you can find a listing in the Yellow Pages should NOT be done by government.

Your first point has a flaw. Why would Americans need an army at all? We could just outsource the entire war, couldn't we? Nations have Armies for national security. When your diplomats need security, you call your national armed forces.

US Marines are trained to kill people and break things, NOT to provide security for dignitaries of whatever stripe.

Your second point also has an obvious flaw. The USMC protects its own commanders when they are in theater. American military personnel do what they are trained to do. If they are not currently trained specifically to protect diplomats, they should be.

27 posted on 10/02/2007 9:30:27 PM PDT by humint (...err the least and endure! VDH)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Generally I’d say no, except the alternative would be to put more troops in harm’s way to guard these self-important politicians.

Maybe if the government didn't hire mercinarys to protect them they wouldn't go there.

No because hiring forces like this generally makes me think of a hired mercenary army, and we already have an Army. I’d hate to see a slippery slope where more of the job of the soldier is taken over by hired guns driven by money rather than loyalty and honor. IIRC, going this direction helped the downfall of the Roman Empire.

I wholeheatedly agree.

28 posted on 10/02/2007 9:37:11 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: c-b 1

Yes - 69%
No - 28%
Not sure -3%


29 posted on 10/02/2007 10:04:33 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: DogByte6RER

Yes, absolutely.


30 posted on 10/02/2007 10:40:13 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: DogByte6RER

My vote would be for having DEMOCRATS give up on private protection.

In fact I’d let the visiting Dems get by with Iraqi protection. Starting with that poster girl for bad plastic surgery herself: Nancy Pelosi.


31 posted on 10/02/2007 10:46:45 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: DogByte6RER

heck no. You know how much these Blackwater guys make? $1000 a day on average.

That is coming out of our tax money.

it is a huge waste, if you ask me.


33 posted on 10/02/2007 11:31:17 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: Redbob

then why do Marines guard all US Embassies overseas?

The military has protected our people in hostile countries for generations. I don’t see why we need to hire mercenaries at $1000 a day to guard some US AID guy when the military can do the same thing for far cheaper.


34 posted on 10/02/2007 11:34:03 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: texastoo
So as long as you have stupid politicians, we need extra protection for them and it shouldn’t be our troops.

So long as we give said protection, we'll never be rid of said stupid politicians.

If they are so stupid, they are not fit to survive, so it is counter productive to employ their betters to give them protection.

Let evolution in action do its job. Everyone would be better off.

35 posted on 10/02/2007 11:48:09 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: DogByte6RER
 
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36 posted on 10/02/2007 11:59:08 PM PDT by OneHun
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To: DogByte6RER

I don’t know if Blackwater is a little trigger happy or not, but I think assigning them responsibility for Harry Reid, Tom Harkin, Shrieker Pelosi, Fat Teddy, Dick Turbin, Jack Yellowstain Murtha, etc., would be a great idea, it would allow those esteemed Democrats to assess the skills and abilities of Blackwater security staff for themselves.

Sure hope those Blackwater guys don’t get confused and take aim in the wrong direction or at an inappropriate target.

Noooo, they wouldn’t do that I’m sure.


37 posted on 10/03/2007 12:15:17 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: DogByte6RER

Yes, 186 votes.


38 posted on 10/03/2007 4:10:33 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: DogByte6RER

Of course they should. Somebody’s gotta do the gun confiscation.


39 posted on 10/03/2007 4:20:04 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: antiRepublicrat
No because hiring forces like this generally makes me think of a hired mercenary army, and we already have an Army. I’d hate to see a slippery slope where more of the job of the soldier is taken over by hired guns driven by money rather than loyalty and honor. IIRC, going this direction helped the downfall of the Roman Empire.

BTTT

I have a good deal of misgivings about the Constitution in this area, a private army killing people. I don't buy it! Without absolute proof that they were being shot at and then their first order should be to retreat.

40 posted on 10/03/2007 6:50:44 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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