27% of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani (Proof Rudy CAN'T Win)

Rasmussen Reports ^ | 10-4-07 | Rasmussen Reports

[6ppc]

That ought to give the pro-life Democrat movement a boost

Fixed it.

[Fawn]

Let’s just all hope that Thompson kicks butt tonight.

[RavenATB]

“Liberal Republicans do far more damage than liberal Democrats.”

I’ve got to hand it to you...there’s truth in that phrase. Look at the Clinton era as opposed to the “W” era. When was the Republican party more united an energized? When was it more dispirited and fractured.

GW has done more damage to our cause in the past 8 years than I could have ever imagined. I can’t imagine how the party could survive another presidency like his has been.

[submarinerswife]

It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win.

Yep like the "stay at home and teach the Republicans a lesson" from the '06 elections that put 'Rats in control of Congress.

They don't think.

[kenmcg]

No better way to insure a Hillary victory!!!! No better way to insure more abortions!! No better way to raise taxes!!!No better way to insure the UNITED STATES OF SOCIALIST AMERICA!! No better way to convert our intelligence agencies into Hillary’s secret police!! No better way to destroy our military!! No better way to lose the war on terror!!! Think twice folks the future’s in your hands.

[John Leland 1789]

“It’s proof that a Pro-Life third party would be idiotic, not proof that Rudy can’t win.”

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What it actually proves is:

1.Rudy EQUALS Hillary. With either of them in the White House, the country will not be headed in a conservative direction.

2. The Republican Party is only playing social-issues tag with the Democratic Party — trying to get in line with the Democratic Party. So the traditional segment of the GOP is begging to see if there is any more a difference worth fighting about.

3. A huge segment of the Republican Party is now ONLY fiscally conservative. And another segment is fiscally Libertarian. Yet a third segment is outright globalist.

4. Rudy should not be the candidate, nor should he have gotten this far.

[Man50D]

Liberals LOVE you.

They'll love The GOP if Giuliani is the nominee.

[roses of sharon]

They do think.

As posted above, they think it was more satisfying to be in the minority, more “energizing and united”, as it was put, and many, many here have admitted that they do not want Republican majorities in Congress because they “act like Democrats”, and a Republican in the WH will sign all their spending bills.

So, no sense arguing with those who enjoy minority status, and find majority status to difficult.

Our efforts should be in convincing our fellow Americans to give up their incessant need to be taken care of by Hill and Bill.

For those 2 commies have never been beaten by the Right, and are leading all our guys in polls right now.

[Preachin']

“If we don’t win continue the war against terror, you won’t have to worry about abortions.”

How many pro-life candidates do you know of who are not also for fighting the war on terror? Rudy911 is not the only one who speaks of the war.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I am rather disgusted the the attitudes of people who are so blinded by their hatred of Rudy that they obviously don't give a rat's patoot that their arrogance is in Hillary's favor.

There isn't a nickel's worth of difference...

[Dudoight]

There are muslims who believe in live and let live. Then there are extremist muslims whose goals are that every one should live under Sharia law or die.

There are Christians who believe in live and let live. Then there are extremist Christians who want to compel everyone to live under the rules of their interpretation of the Christian faith. Jesus did not compel. Jesus was a loving example. I see no love in the hate, rage and fury of the birth of this new “third party”.

[Preachin']

“Jesus was a loving example.”

Would you like me to find about 20-30 verses where Jesus was offended people? That would be easy.

Even the Apostle Paul stated that if he were a man pleaser, he is not the servant of Christ.

Galatians 1:10: 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

By the way, it’s not hateful to say I won’t vote for a man who does not esteem my values. It’s also not hateful to say I will vote 3rd party, if necessary.

If you feel comfortable calling me hateful, I am sorry to have engaged in any debate with you.

[submarinerswife]

Clinton won with 40% of the vote in ‘92 (if my memory serves me right)

Sitting around letting another Clinton in office is far worse than their “thinking minds” could imagine. Wanting a third party to spring up and take control over the next year is a pipe dream on their part.

I am not convinced they are living in reality.

[Dudoight]

I see you as having the goal that all conservatives should dance to the tune of YOUR Christianity.

What about these conservatives: good, kind ethical Jews, Hindus, Buddahists, Athiests? Even good kind Muslims? There is no room for them and their beliefs in YOUR third party.

This country is grounded in Judeo-Christian foundations. Thank God. But integrated in that foundation is something called tolerance. This government was not instituted by the founders to be Christian or Biblical. That is a personal realm, not a governmental realm. When governments are ruled by religion...people die. (even Christian Governments, and don’t refer me back to a bunch of Popes, think Calvinists in Switzerland, Puritans in New England and so forth).

You need to be thankful that we do live in a country where Christians CAN worship and live their lives by their Christian tenets.

If you can’t make the leap emotionally or intellectually to do everything in your power to prevent Hillary’s socialism (which will REALLY be the first big step toward the destruction of our religious rights) then I can add nothing further to this discussion.

[roses of sharon]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1906173/posts?page=45

See post #45, they do want the GOP destroyed to begin anew, and most here are no longer even funding the RNC.

So, obviously they are hoping for a 3rd and 4th term for Bill and Hill.

Maybe its some kind of Utopian dream, a comfortable refuge, that means no hard work or uncomfortable decisions.

[Preachin']

“I see you as having the goal that all conservatives should dance to the tune of YOUR Christianity.”

Really, the point is that the Christians are made out to look like we are the ones pushing for change, when in fact we are the core of the GOP. It has been that way since President Reagan, and the advent of the Moral Majority.

You are cool to vote however you want to vote, and I also feel no obligation to vote for Rudy. The best thing you can do is get Rudy nominated and you can say goodbye to us forever.

I am not hateful for that, am I?

[Dudoight]

Yes...I think it is really hateful for a bunch of Christians to give this Nation another Clinton. It is arrogant and self righteous.

Hillary is counting on you and your ilk to get her into office. She is NO dummy. She loves Dr. Dobson...he is her ticket to ride.

[Pining_4_TX]

Rudy is part of the evil left. He’ll be another Arnold Schwarzenegger. What makes you think he is a conservative?

For that matter, when the real campaign gets going, what makes people think Rudy can win? I can just see him getting a phone call from his wife in the middle of a big speech while on the campaign trail.

Rudy is a leftist and a loon... or is that redundant?

[Pining_4_TX]

If you don’t hold to your principles, then why even say you have them? You don’t. You just talk a good game.

[TitansAFC]

-—”I have to wonder how electing Hillary is going to help the anti-abortion cause”-—

Well, if we’re going by record - Rudy911 is the preferred choice of the Pro-Abortion groups. Hitlery is the lesser of two evils, though not by much.