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"Radioactive Boy Scout" Gets 90 Days
Associated Press ^ | 10-4-2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/04/2007 12:03:14 PM PDT by Westlander

MOUNT CLEMENS, Mich. (AP) - A man who tried to build a nuclear reactor in a shed as a teenager will be assessed by doctors before starting a 90-day jail sentence for stealing smoke detectors.

David Hahn, 31, was sentenced Tuesday in Macomb County Circuit Court on attempted larceny from a building. He was arrested in August after a maintenance worker saw him steal a smoke detector from his Clinton Township apartment complex. Police later found 15 other smoke detectors in his apartment.

(Excerpt) Read more at wxyz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: boyscout; nuclear; radioactive
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
1 posted on 10/04/2007 12:03:20 PM PDT by Westlander
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To: Westlander

He’ll probably only do a half-sentence.


2 posted on 10/04/2007 12:04:08 PM PDT by gridlock (C'mon people now / Smile on your Brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one anoth-kaBOOM!)
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To: Westlander

http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html


3 posted on 10/04/2007 12:04:23 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

Radioactive Boy Scout? Weren’t they a garage band in Boston in the early ‘80s?


4 posted on 10/04/2007 12:05:33 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: grellis

MI ping


5 posted on 10/04/2007 12:08:40 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: Westlander


It looks like his skin grew back.
6 posted on 10/04/2007 12:10:54 PM PDT by kinoxi (Lumen me regit)
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To: Westlander

He’s after the Americium in the smoke detector. It can be used as an exciter in a nuclear reactor. He’s trying to build another reactor. I wonder if his mother’s potting shed is still radioactive from his last attempt?


7 posted on 10/04/2007 12:13:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: gridlock
LOL.

I think a lot of fire departments do smoke detector giveaways from time to time. That's what he should have done instead of stealing them. Well, he really shouldn't being building reactors and other dangerous toys, but that's a different matter.

8 posted on 10/04/2007 12:16:10 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: Swordmaker

“I wonder if his mother’s potting shed is still radioactive from his last attempt?”

We’ll never know - that shed is 1 mile deep somewhere in Nevada.


9 posted on 10/04/2007 12:24:44 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: BearCub
 

Well, he really shouldn't being building reactors and other dangerous toys,

 

Everyone wants to take the fun out of being a boy 

10 posted on 10/04/2007 12:28:08 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: Westlander

I remember reading this article a couple of years ago on here and being amazed. Now I think this guy is just an idiot. Why not go to college and learn these things instead of breaking the law to build another reactor to put people in danger. He is lucky some Fed doesn’t send him to Guantanamo.


11 posted on 10/04/2007 12:33:04 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: CollegeRepublican
From the article linked to in Post # 3.

David held a series of after-school jobs at fast-food joints, grocery stores and furniture warehouses, but work was merely a means of financing his experiments. Never an enthusiastic student, he fell behind in school, scoring poorly on state math and reading tests (he did, however, ace the test in science).

This is the type of individual who wants to learn what he wants to learn and is bored to tears by structured learning.

He is a Edison type of guy. His only problem is what he has decided to toy with is high dangerous and regulated.

One hundred years ago he would have no problems.

12 posted on 10/04/2007 12:46:40 PM PDT by Pontiac (uNFORTU)
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To: grjr21
Well, he really shouldn't being building reactors and other dangerous toys,

Everyone wants to take the fun out of being a boy


13 posted on 10/04/2007 12:47:59 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

Wow! I remember (and had some of) the chemistry sets, but never saw that one, thanks! Amazing.


14 posted on 10/04/2007 12:55:31 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This post sold by weight, not volume. Content may have settled during shipment.)
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To: Pontiac
I think there's a townhouse in Philly that's still a radiological hazard.

An MD in the 1920s was experimenting, probably with radium, in his practice.

15 posted on 10/04/2007 1:02:06 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Swordmaker

Homer Simpson bought his tomacco seeds from her. Now we know how they developed.


16 posted on 10/04/2007 1:03:08 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Dumpster Baby

Wow. One of those recently sold for nearly $8000 in an auction.


17 posted on 10/04/2007 1:09:51 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: CollegeRepublican
People deal with hazardous, even lethal substances on a routine basis. In every case transport, containment, handling and disposal methods have been developed which allows them to be safely used in everyday applications. If he could come up with a simple, cheap and safe design for a small scale reactor he'd have made quite an accomplishment, not to mention one with quite a lucrative future. For all we know he could have been making a low-output proof-of-concept reactor. He's obviously a backyard tinkerer yet in an area no one else goes near. Hence the notoriety.

The 'Home Reactor' was something covered by science and hobby magazines decades ago. Maybe he just believed what he read in Popular Science?

He may be an "idiot" but he's on a good track.

18 posted on 10/04/2007 1:18:33 PM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: Swordmaker

Is an exciter like a French tickler? What does it do in a nuclear reactor?


19 posted on 10/04/2007 1:27:47 PM PDT by bagman
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To: Westlander

You can go to jail for setting off smoke detectors?


20 posted on 10/04/2007 1:38:13 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Know thy enemy. Learn Farsi.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Whoops, I read it wrong. STEALING smoke detectors, not setting them off. Ignore my last post...


21 posted on 10/04/2007 1:38:58 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Know thy enemy. Learn Farsi.)
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To: bagman
An Exciter (or Startup Source) can be an Americium 241 source inside a Beryllium tube produces a source of neutrons for initiating a self sustaining nuclear reaction in a nuclear reactor.

These Startup Sources are typically only needed for a fresh reactor core. After a reactor has been at power for a few weeks the irradiated fuel supplies its own neutrons from decaying spent fuel.

22 posted on 10/04/2007 1:48:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (uNFORTU)
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To: Dumpster Baby
Spinthariscope
23 posted on 10/04/2007 2:02:43 PM PDT by Pontiac (uNFORTU)
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To: Westlander
A man who tried to build a nuclear reactor in a shed as a teenager ...

"A man who built a nuclear reactor in a shed as a teenager ..."

Fixed it. He really did get a sustained reaction going that was increasing in intensity daily.

24 posted on 10/04/2007 2:03:39 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: neverdem

You might like this thread.


25 posted on 10/04/2007 2:07:56 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: FreedomCalls
Fixed it. He really did get a sustained reaction going that was increasing in intensity daily.

I guess that it was technically a sub-critical assembly

26 posted on 10/04/2007 2:21:34 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Westlander
A man who tried to build a nuclear reactor in a shed as a teenager will be assessed by doctors before starting a 90-day jail sentence for stealing smoke detectors.

Hmmmm....smoke detectors have a radioactive element americium-241... Hope this guy didn't convert to Islam or something?

27 posted on 10/04/2007 4:10:24 PM PDT by tophat9000 (You need to have standards to fail and be a hypocrite, Dem's therefor are never hypocrites)
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To: bagman
Is an exciter like a French tickler? What does it do in a nuclear reactor?

A nuclear French tickler?...the mind boggles

28 posted on 10/04/2007 4:13:48 PM PDT by tophat9000 (You need to have standards to fail and be a hypocrite, Dem's therefor are never hypocrites)
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29 posted on 10/04/2007 4:41:21 PM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: bagman
Is an exciter like a French tickler? What does it do in a nuclear reactor?

My understanding is that it can be used to induce the release of neutrons...

30 posted on 10/04/2007 9:55:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

I’m pretty sure this is in part just a hit piece on the Boy Scouts of America. :’)

But anyway, this kid probably has figured out some way to turn something (besides the Americium) from a smoke detector into crystal meth.


31 posted on 10/04/2007 11:05:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Pontiac

Actually I think he is potentially more in the class of Tesla...

You are right in the New Corporate State there is no place for him...

He is a misfit and will suffer the consequence of our inability to protect those among us who just a few Generations ago would be recognized as Genius.

W


32 posted on 10/04/2007 11:29:00 PM PDT by WLR (Secure our Schools with Armed Staff on Campus. Build the Fence, Nuke Iran)
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To: WLR
Actually I think he is potentially more in the class of Tesla...

I briefly considered Tesla, but I consider Tesla a true scientist expanding the boundaries of science. Tesla made actual scientific discoveries. Edison (to my knowledge) did not.

This guy is more of a gifted tinkerer as was Edison. Edison took what was known and fiddled with it to make something.

I think this guy may have the potential to be an Edison but unfortunately he has chosen an area of pursuit that is legally off limits outside of universities and government labs.

Private experimentation is strictly verboten.

33 posted on 10/05/2007 1:20:32 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Let’s see you get that through airport security!


34 posted on 10/05/2007 1:24:18 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: grjr21

I wonder if “nuclear reactor building” is in here:

http://www.dangerousbookforboys.com/


35 posted on 10/05/2007 1:26:16 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Pontiac

Actually I think he is potentially more in the class of Tesla...

I briefly considered Tesla, but I consider Tesla a true scientist expanding the boundaries of science. Tesla made actual scientific discoveries. Edison (to my knowledge) did not.

This guy is more of a gifted tinkerer as was Edison. Edison took what was known and fiddled with it to make something.

I think this guy may have the potential to be an Edison but unfortunately he has chosen an area of pursuit that is legally off limits outside of universities and government labs.

Private experimentation is strictly verboten.

You know it is hard to say.. I agree this guy has never been provided a place to stand. He first got into trouble as a kid. Wasn’t it the Navy to it’s credit who got him work in the Navy’s nuke program as a Sailor?. That would have been something like Walt Disney in the Marines (yes he was briefly lol) The shoe was a poor fit I suspect.

I hope that Judge has half a brain and finds a decent math or science professor (With the exception of the “Earth Sciences” Hard science and Engineering still have a great many decent professors. (although there is a Math Genius serving life in Prison for killing a three Professor Board who were being A$$Hat elitists IMO. (His response to the life sentence “good I will have more time for Math”.

Sentence him to work as an assistant to a older Science Prof.

Maybe he will not wind up serving life in prison, working for AQ or dead in the gutter as an alcoholic.

Let us hope

W


36 posted on 10/06/2007 9:18:37 AM PDT by WLR (Armed Staff on School Campus. Build the Fence, Iran delenda est)
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To: WLR
I hope that Judge has half a brain and finds a decent math or science professor (With the exception of the “Earth Sciences” Hard science and Engineering still have a great many decent professors.

I doubt that would work out.

Make sure your read the article linked in Post # 3.

The guy was a poor student. Got poor scores in math.

I don't think he can work in a structured environment.

What a waste!

37 posted on 10/06/2007 10:29:16 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

“No dangerous or explosive chemicals” LOL.


38 posted on 10/06/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by Rocky (Dan Rather and the NYT: Fake but accurate)
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